Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[Future Mayor]

If they were to utilize the Grand Hall of the Depot as the Lobby, and maybe a Lobby Bar and restaurant for the Boutique Hotel then I am all for converting the Depot to a Hotel. I too wonder where they would add the rooms thought. I think The Depot is a great live music venue, so I'm curious how a hotel would be accomplished. I guess if a hotel pencils out more than a music venue than they would do that. I'd hate to see it go though. I could see capacity for 110 rooms on the upper floors of both the north and south wing. The Depot's two story space is pretty big and I assume the south side has just as much space. I think it could easily be accomplished there.

[Cutekittens85]

I've been lurking for a long time and really enjoy this forum. Im looking to buy a 1 bed in 99 west within the next year and I was wondering if anyone by chance has the price sheet for the units from when they first started selling them. Thanks in advance for your help.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Cutekittens85

I've been lurking for a long time and really enjoy this forum. Im looking to buy a 1 bed in 99 west within the next year and I was wondering if anyone by chance has the price sheet for the units from when they first started selling them. Thanks in advance for your help.

According to the layout, and the pricing information at www.citycreekliving.com there is only 1 1-bedroom left and that is on floor 27.

Since the subject was brought up, if you're in the need for a Realtor, I'd love to assist you.

[Viperlord]

As of February 2016 (From the project art RFQ & bidding documents):

district attorney office by downtown_slc, on Flickr

update..... 2/24/2016

So, I got a message from the architect on my flickr page where I had uploaded the rendering...

Here it is:

"This early conceptual rendering is owned by MHTN Architects, Inc. Please remove this image immediately, as permission has not been given for any type of use."

[msbutah]

RE the Wells Fargo atrium - they are going to be reducing the open space of the atrium to make complete floors out of those upper floors instead of having them end as partial floors. I was chatting with the building maintenance people and they're having discussions about how this will be accomplished.

[Viperlord]

‘Landmark’ new mosque planned in Salt Lake City

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3557905-155/landmark-new-mosque-planned-in-salt

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by StevenF

I kind of think of the mountains as the signature tower for Salt Lake.

I absolutely agree, which is why I don't support anything over 30 stories in SLC.

Also, I strongly dislike that the color of glass on 111 appears mostly black during the daytime.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

If they were to utilize the Grand Hall of the Depot as the Lobby, and maybe a Lobby Bar and restaurant for the Boutique Hotel then I am all for converting the Depot to a Hotel. I too wonder where they would add the rooms thought. I think The Depot is a great live music venue, so I'm curious how a hotel would be accomplished. I guess if a hotel pencils out more than a music venue than they would do that. I'd hate to see it go though. I could see capacity for 110 rooms on the upper floors of both the north and south wing. The Depot's two story space is pretty big and I assume the south side has just as much space. I think it could easily be accomplished there.

I would only support the main hall being used for those purposes if nothing permanent is built within its space. If they use the existing ticket windows for guest check-in, have a portable bar on wheels, etc.

There exists other space on the ground floor that could be used for lobby, bar, restaurant space. The main hall ought to continue to be event space, like a typical hotel ballroom, with nothing permanent built in.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

As of February 2016 (From the project art RFQ & bidding documents):

district attorney office by downtown_slc, on Flickr

At first, I kind of liked it, but there's such a lack of street engagement for this project. It just shows grass at street level. Disappointing.

[Hatman]

Originally Posted by Stenar

I would only support the main hall being used for those purposes if nothing permanent is built within its space. If they use the existing ticket windows for guest check-in, have a portable bar on wheels, etc.

There exists other space on the ground floor that could be used for lobby, bar, restaurant space. The main hall ought to continue to be event space, like a typical hotel ballroom, with nothing permanent built in.

One of the things that always makes me sad about old unused train stations is the emptiness of them. No crowds. No people. No purpose. A beautiful building that isn't in daily regular use and isn't regularly seen by people - especially if it was meant to be seen and used every day - seems partly tragic.
I agree completely that whatever happens to the great hall shouldn't permanently change the building. But if there are modifications that need to be made in order to make it a functioning part of the building again (like adding a bar or whatever) I say so be it - as long as these changes can be un-done if the purpose of the building changes again.

Out of curiosity, how often is the hall used for events?

[Hatman]

Originally Posted by Orlando

At first, I kind of liked it, but there's such a lack of street engagement for this project. It just shows grass at street level. Disappointing.

Is this supposed to be on the NE corner of 500S and Main? Surely they don't mean the NW corner?
It's better than a parking lot. Yep. That's all my thoughts on it.

[asies1981]

Construction is starting on the 616 Lofts. I believe the DA offices will occupy the east corner of the parking lot at 500 South, with the county partnering with a private developer to build at the west side at the actual intersection. Now just what to do about the block-sized parking lot across the street

[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

As of February 2016 (From the project art RFQ & bidding documents):

district attorney office by downtown_slc, on Flickr

Oh Christ.... That's horrendous. It kind of reminds me of that ugly building that use to be on the east end of the library block....

[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by Hatman

One of the things that always makes me sad about old unused train stations is the emptiness of them. No crowds. No people. No purpose. A beautiful building that isn't in daily regular use and isn't regularly seen by people - especially if it was meant to be seen and used every day - seems partly tragic.
I agree completely that whatever happens to the great hall shouldn't permanently change the building. But if there are modifications that need to be made in order to make it a functioning part of the building again (like adding a bar or whatever) I say so be it - as long as these changes can be un-done if the purpose of the building changes again.

Out of curiosity, how often is the hall used for events?

It's really to bad that the city planning didn't have their 🞵🞵🞵🞵 together way back when... The UP Depot would have made a great transit hub.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Stenar

I absolutely agree, which is why I don't support anything over 30 stories in SLC.

I disagree with this, because it doesn't matter how tall any building in downtown is, they will all pale in size compared to the mountains. 30 stories or 50 stories won't really make all that much of a visual difference with the mountains as a backdrop. It's not as if a skinny 50 story tower would block any views of the mountains from anywhere, except a building directly adjacent to the 50 story tower.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by ajiuO

It's really to bad that the city planning didn't have their 🞵🞵🞵🞵 together way back when... The UP Depot would have made a great transit hub.

🞵🞵🞵🞵 together or not. City Planning most likely didn't have much to do with it. City Council had ultimate approval and they wanted to get it built before the Olympics happened.

[Liberty Wellsian]

Originally Posted by Stenar

I absolutely agree, which is why I don't support anything over 30 stories in SLC.

Also, I strongly dislike that the color of glass on 111 appears mostly black during the daytime.

Nah the views of the mountains around downtown aren't very good unless you find the perfect angle or get up in the air. I think tall buildings create views in that location much more so than they block them. That isn't true of the entire Wasatch Front but I think it is true for downtown SLC.

[Hatman]

Originally Posted by asies1981

Construction is starting on the 616 Lofts. I believe the DA offices will occupy the east corner of the parking lot at 500 South, with the county partnering with a private developer to build at the west side at the actual intersection. Now just what to do about the block-sized parking lot across the street

At least it's not a corner building. Hopefully whatever gets built on the actual corner has enough street engagement to make up for this one.

[slc801]

Originally Posted by StevenF

I kind of think of the mountains as the signature tower for Salt Lake.

I third this! I don't live in SLC because of the fantastic skyline, I live here because of the fantastic mountains. Like has been said on here, I'm fine with lots of smaller buildings than one gigantic one.

[slc801]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

As of February 2016 (From the project art RFQ & bidding documents):

district attorney office by downtown_slc, on Flickr

I am actually really excited about this project--hear me out. Yes the architecture of the building is extremely bland and leaves much to be desired. I think what leaves this building with a lot of potential is the RFQ. $325,000 has been allotted for some type of glass art. While the final design will be based on what the artist designs, the RFQ proposes the glass art to potentially drape/hang from/interact with parts, if not the entire front, of the building. And considering that the building may be covered in some really cool glass art, it is actually acceptable, if not encouraged, that the building be blasé and forgettable. Installation of the art will not begin until the beginning of next year so before you critique the building once it is finished, wait for the art to go up.

If your wondering how much a glass art piece can be purchased with $325,000, there isn't a good answer for that. The building is 201 feet long and 83 feet high. Enough to cover the entire building? No, I extremely doubt it. However, it depends on the artist and what they change. Enough to create a fantastic interaction with what otherwise would be a boring building. Thats definitely my hope.

[Comrade]

Ugh. Bring back the original concept. It was so much better.

Why does SLC have to keep churning out god-awful buildings?!?