ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[RobMidtowner]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

To be fair, it's been awhile since we've heard of a new Skyhouse in the works. I wonder if Atlantic House is their zenith for this development cycle? It's certainly their best one in the country which is fitting since Skyhouse Midtown was their very first skyhouse in the country.

Also, I'm not sure if people noticed, but Post Centennial does very well with incorporating features with the surrounding environment. The colors are very well similar to the condo building next door and the Coke Museum across the street. That's not something that's too common these days.

I agree, the scale reminds me of the condo building (Centennial Park West) on the other side of the park next to the aquarium. I'm glad to see this one get started.

[sbrptree]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

Very possible another meeting is cancelled. If developers aren't presenting projects, then no meeting can be had. I said that this would be a slower year for Midtown since there's already so much in the pipeline.

The agenda is out....only one item....Campanile Expansion by Dewberry Capital (adding 6 floors and ground-level retail).

[Vaden]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

Didn't realize so many people wanted an apartment in Buckhead...are occupancy rates doing well there? Just seems like there's been a gargantuan amount of proposals in the last 6 months there, especially compared to any other neighborhood in the city. The next Buckhead development wave is going to be unprecedented. It's very well on it's way to feeling like an actual urban, walkable neighborhood.

Just not sure if the infrastructure can handle it however....just doesn't have the grid that the older 36 square mile core of Atlanta does.

It really is incredible. Buckhead's best hope of becoming walkable is the historic Buckhead village/BuckheadAtlanta area. It does have a small grid and could be a nice urban node. The other Buckhead core up the road will never quite get there due to the presence of the twin behemoths of Phipps Plaza and Lenox Square. Only a death of malls and their destruction and replacement with village square type developments will solve the problem. At least that's my own feelings. I just can't get beyond those two big hulking malls. They will forever be car-choked messes non-conductive to walking.

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Vaden

It really is incredible. Buckhead's best hope of becoming walkable is the historic Buckhead village/BuckheadAtlanta area. It does have a small grid and could be a nice urban node. The other Buckhead core up the road will never quite get there due to the presence of the twin behemoths of Phipps Plaza and Lenox Square. Only a death of malls and their destruction and replacement with village square type developments will solve the problem. At least that's my own feelings. I just can't get beyond those two big hulking malls. They will forever be car-choked messes non-conductive to walking.

I don't think that's true... the malls are easily accessed by pedestrians. They're only a couple hundred feet from the road and walkways go right up to them (no risking your life weaving through parking lots). They have some surface parking, but are dense in terms of retail... in fact, while it's a downright toxic thing to say on an urban development forum, it's hard to get more walkable than a mall. The real problem with the Lenox area is its superblocks and lack of a grid. The only part that has a real grid is too far from MARTA for a walk to be enticing for anyone who doesn't live or work there.

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

I don't think that's true... the malls are easily accessed by pedestrians. They're only a couple hundred feet from the road and walkways go right up to them (no risking your life weaving through parking lots). They have some surface parking, but are dense in terms of retail... in fact, while it's a downright toxic thing to say on an urban development forum, it's hard to get more walkable than a mall. The real problem with the Lenox area is its superblocks and lack of a grid. The only part that has a real grid is too far from MARTA for a walk to be enticing for anyone who doesn't live or work there.

i don't see them ever tearing down the malls, but it would be great to see them build decks to replace surface parking and fill in the resulting with street-facing development. malls can certainly coexist in healthy downtown cores with street retail.

[L.ARCH]

Originally Posted by cabasse

i don't see them ever tearing down the malls, but it would be great to see them build decks to replace surface parking and fill in the resulting with street-facing development. malls can certainly coexist in healthy downtown cores with street retail.

I believe this will be what eventually happens according to some studies I saw for Lenox Mall a few years ago... The proposal was to extend the interior circulation axes out to the street and replace the surface parking with a more robust street and pedestrian network with mid and high-rise development throughout the site. Probably still quite a few years out if I had to speculate as I suspect we are nearing the end of this development cycle.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by sbrptree

The agenda is out....only one item....Campanile Expansion by Dewberry Capital (adding 6 floors and ground-level retail).

This in addition to the redevelopment of Colony Square *should* be really healthy for this part of Midtown. Other than Crescent, north of 10th St. seems peculiarly quiet most evenings despite having the densest block of residents in Atlanta.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

The DRC agenda wasn't on the website yet, to whomever has seen it does it say for the Campanile if it is just the 6 floors added to the office building or will it include the other towers in this image [it would go a big way in filling in that area/plus would be cool to see a tower built on an existing deck]:

[jsvh]

http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2016/02/09/atlanta-stockade-art-exchange-urban-realty.php

Plans circulating this week suggest the Atlanta Stockade building, which dates to 1896, could remain at the core of a 250-unit mix of townhomes, condos and apartments. Urban Realty Partners, who bought the building and surrounding property last year, is seeking to rezone the site for the development. But not all that's historic will likely last.

[BlueSangha]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

The DRC agenda wasn't on the website yet, to whomever has seen it does it say for the Campanile if it is just the 6 floors added to the office building or will it include the other towers in this image [it would go a big way in filling in that area/plus would be cool to see a tower built on an existing deck]:

it's a Dewberry project, it wouldn't hold your breath.

[GTdan]

Here is what I found from the Midtown Alliance website on the Campanile at 1155 Peachtree Street NE

Dewberry Capital proposes to add approx. 77,000 sf of ground floor and second floor
retail and office/retail, along with six new floors of Class “A” office space in a vertical
expansion totaling approximately 150,000 sf. The existing structure currently contains
approx. 446,000 sf of Class “A” office space and no retail space.

[Ant131531]

Wow that retail actually looks like it's being done fairly well. It would go a long way in increasing the walkability of that area.

[Atlanta3000]

Originally Posted by BlueSangha

it's a Dewberry project, it wouldn't hold your breath.

Say what you want about Dewberry (and most of it is justified), but one thing you cannot say about him is that he is not a savvy real estate investor. He purchased the Campanile building in 2010 for $38 Million using his own money. The previous owner had purchased the building for almost $100 Million before foreclosing during the financial crisis. Also to put another perspective on this, consider Three Alliance Center in Buckhead currently under construction. It is just slightly bigger than the Campanile building and construction cost are $200 Million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2010/09/20/story4.html

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

From this image alone it appears the 2 story development is along 14th Street.

[BlueSangha]

Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Say what you want about Dewberry (and most of it is justified), but one thing you cannot say about him is that he is not a savvy real estate investor. He purchased the Campanile building in 2010 for $38 Million using his own money. The previous owner had purchased the building for almost $100 Million before foreclosing during the financial crisis. Also to put another perspective on this, consider Three Alliance Center in Buckhead currently under construction. It is just slightly bigger than the Campanile building and construction cost are $200 Million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2010/09/20/story4.html

blah, blah, blah, he still ain't doin' shit. just my opinion. that is all.

[Frankster87]

Originally Posted by BlueSangha

blah, blah, blah, he still ain't doin' shit. just my opinion. that is all.

Not holding my breath, but man would this be awesome for that corner.

If the stars DO align and this actually does happen, it would be a great precedent to be set for the many older buildings that were not designed with pedestrians in mind... looking at you BOA.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

https://fiber.google.com/cities/atlanta/...778848%7C-84.387727&neighborhood=Atlanta

This website is confirming that a project called Alexan 880, where the 880 West Peachtree building has been proposed is getting google Fiber. I guess that is a good sign for that building going forward? It also confirms the name for Broadstone Terraces will be Broadstone Midtown. Also 1138 Peachtree is listed on this as well.





I went back and looked up Yoo on Peachtree permit and it is still stalled from 03/2014 file date, but in 08/2015 impact fee assessment appeared in accela, so who knows...

[joecool]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

The DRC agenda wasn't on the website yet, to whomever has seen it does it say for the Campanile if it is just the 6 floors added to the office building or will it include the other towers in this image [it would go a big way in filling in that area/plus would be cool to see a tower built on an existing deck]:

ETA on this? This has been proposed for awhile. I really like this. A LOT!

Since we are on the topic of Dewberry, whatever happened to Midtown Square on 10th and P'tree? Y'all remember that? lol

[ATLSkyPalaceOwner]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

https://fiber.google.com/cities/atlanta/...778848%7C-84.387727&neighborhood=Atlanta

This website is confirming that a project called Alexan 880, where the 880 West Peachtree building has been proposed is getting google Fiber. I guess that is a good sign for that building going forward? It also confirms the name for Broadstone Terraces will be Broadstone Midtown. Also 1138 Peachtree is listed on this as well.

I remember seeing someone say a looooong time ago that the current tenants - some sort of lawyery or accountant type - were actively looking for new space because they had to vacate. That actually makes it seem like it will happen.

I'll be so happy to have real sidewalks on the south side of 8th.

As an aside, I'm in Sydney until American summer and I was purposefully going to not look at this site and just see all of the developments when I get back in August or so. That's been proven very difficult for me unfortunately, it would have been neat to just drive around and see what has changed.

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by ATLSkyPalaceOwner

As an aside, I'm in Sydney until American summer and I was purposefully going to not look at this site and just see all of the developments when I get back in August or so. That's been proven very difficult for me unfortunately, it would have been neat to just drive around and see what has changed.

i'm trying to do the same from dallas, but it's not happening. hell i'm flying back tomorrow for valentine's day, lol.