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Originally Posted by nefc
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I have been involved in a good chunk of property "negotiations" over the years. At the end of the day, most don't lead to anything. Why? Ya need both parties to be "motivated". Ya can still talk. Doesn't mean anything at the end of the day.
To wit from the article:
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PavCo, which operates BC Place, has told Business in Vancouver that any realignment of the road network must not hurt its ability to develop its parcel, including remediation of soils contaminated by the existing viaducts.
The new road network, including a ramp connecting Georgia Street to Pacific Boulevard, will affect loading docks for BC Place. The ramp will pass over a parkade associated with a 30-storey tower proposed for the corner of Georgia and Pacific.
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Right there PAVOC will be negatively impacted. No motivation on PAVCO's part. Sure they will continue "negotiations"... but it is all a moot point. And the BC gov't, which controls PAVCO, is obviously against this whole conundrum in any event.
And another whole plethora of issues that have been brought forward previously on here with just crickets continuing to play in the background:
1. Both viaducts are part of either/or Translink's MRN/MTR and part of the regional road network. Translink will be required to prepare a technical report from regional stakeholders... esp. BC MoTI and the BC Trucking Association. Both are opposed to viaduct removal and Translink has NEVER previously approved removal of such designations (precedents in Surrey, Delta, New Westminster, etc.)
2. Politically speaking, the BC gov't's support regionally is from the suburbs and they will NEVER approve same as a stakeholder on that point alone;
3. Public opinion poll shows major opposition to viaduct removal in all key categorical questions;
4. A $200 million+ (who knows how much now?) capital borrowing question will also be required in the November, 2017 Van City election for viaduct removal. THAT issue will undoubtedly become the key political narrative for the 2017 muni campaign. No doubt - akin to the BC NDP's "Kinder Morgan Surprise" narrative that killed 'em in the BC 2013 provincial election.
5. The NE False Creek area includes the most toxic "Class 1" contaminated lands in Van City. Again, over the past 5 years remedial costs of same have exponentially/astronomically sky-rocketed. And brutally so under both applicable provincial as well as federal statutes with increased stringent underlying regulations. No cost estimate ever presented concerning viaduct removal alone in that vein. Go figure.
And it goes on and on and on.
Most "Mickey Mouse" thing that I have ever witnessed. Akin to watchin' a 6-year movie (when this thread was first started) knowin' the end outcome while chowin' down one bag of popcorn after another.
And this charade is all directed by Van City councillor Geoff Meggs who barely kept his 10th council spot in 2014. BTW, Geoff Meggs is known to be a bit of a loon and also wanted to be part of the purported 2013 BC NDP gov't. Go figure. Meggs has also been historically known to be a complete incompetent.
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.... Yes, most practical !!! Great satire, though I doubt it would work with False Creek soil.
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