Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by SOSS

Is the flat rail bed and partition wall prefab? I would assume not and will require a lot of steel workers and concrete trucks.

Actually I think it is prefab. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

[finalcoolman]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Actually I think it is prefab. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Not pre fabricated. They are moving huge concrete forms that have recently arrived near the south tunnel portal.

[Olden Retreiver]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

I don't see any reason why they can't weld the rails for the entire length of the tunnel. But they can't start on that step until they've built the flat railbed, and probably the central partition too. Even if that work can start immediately it's likely to take as long as it takes to remove the TBM.

Building a flat floor in a 10-metre diameter tunnel should give ample opportunity for sub-floor drainage. I've always been surprised by the amount of water in the Canada Line tunnels, including water on top of the steel plates and rails.

Saw EGRT weld some lengths of rail stretching pretty much from Moody Station to Ioco. As segments got added, the rail was advanced along the line on rollers. For the tunnel, there's a good chance they can do all the welding at the south portal and push/pull the entire lengths downhill through to the north end.

[officedweller]

New pics at the Evergreen Line Flickr page:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/sets/72157632226282626/

New info sheets for each station (nothing new?):

http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/infosheets.htm

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by jlousa

I've tried to explain the same thing repeatly, but people don't seem to grasp it. That's why the province keeps pushing for the mayors to go the property tax route. You can't evade it, and it's progressive, hits the highest value properties more then the lowest.

And the highest property values are usually located on large parcels of land away from transit ( and so expensive to service ) or in dense neighbourhood really CLOSE to transit ( and thus would be paying their fair share ). Also, since transit is usually built near current or future dense neighbourhoods, most of the money will come from people who live close to transit.

By Proportion, the densest neighbourhoods end up paying more/sq m. The densest neighbourhoods usually have the most expensive transit systems next to them. Wow... that's even logical.

ALSO, Aren't BC property taxes are the LOWEST in Canada?

[cjones2451]

Originally Posted by officedweller

New pics at the Evergreen Line Flickr page:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/sets/72157632226282626/

New info sheets for each station (nothing new?):

http://www.evergreenline.gov.bc.ca/infosheets.htm

I like the idea of using your Compass Card at Inlet Station to pass under the Barnet Hwy to the other side (provided you tap out in 20 minutes)

[queetz@home]

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

And the highest property values are usually located on large parcels of land away from transit ( and so expensive to service ) or in dense neighbourhood really CLOSE to transit ( and thus would be paying their fair share ). Also, since transit is usually built near current or future dense neighbourhoods, most of the money will come from people who live close to transit.

By Proportion, the densest neighbourhoods end up paying more/sq m. The densest neighbourhoods usually have the most expensive transit systems next to them. Wow... that's even logical.

ALSO, Aren't BC property taxes are the LOWEST in Canada?

At the end of the day, those people who resists the property tax solution, whether they be the mayors, developers or selfish homeowners (including some forumers here) are the ones that have the most to loose. It be their pet projects or the fact that they must now pay their fair share, they just don't like that. So they try to justify other methods like consumption taxes, road pricing, and so on when property tax really is the best, easiest and above all, fairest way to fund transit expansion in Metro Vancouver.

I'm glad the Evergreen tunneling is finally over, but its too bad its delayed yet again. Of course, they can simply open Burquitlam sooner but what's another six month waiting on top of the already decades long wait for this line anyway?

[SOSS]

Great new images. I like seeing the bit with the spur. With that set up does that mean if one wanted to go from Lafarge/Douglas to future Port Coquitlam stations would they build an expanded Coquitlam Centre Station or have to transfer at Inlet Centre Station (or future Falcon Station)?

[GeeCee]

Originally Posted by SOSS

Great new images. I like seeing the bit with the spur. With that set up does that mean if one wanted to go from Lafarge/Douglas to future Port Coquitlam stations would they build an expanded Coquitlam Centre Station or have to transfer at Inlet Centre Station (or future Falcon Station)?

You would transfer at Coquitlam Centre station and change to the eastbound/northbound platform, then wait for a Port Coquitlam-bound train, just like you do at Columbia.

Edit: err, I hadn't realized that the spur was BEFORE the station house. How silly. Yeah, I suppose you'd have to backtrack all the way to Inlet Centre.

[idunno]

I remember seeing the drawing here some time ago about that. I believe the plan is to have another 'outside platform' station built to the south of the current one. I think it is quite strange, but maybe they want to avoid crowding or something.

[officedweller]

Pics around Lougheed Station by yellow Fever posted yesterday:

Originally Posted by Yellow Fever

Lougheed section

IMG_8189 by Yellow Fever @ SkyscraperCity, on Flickr

IMG_8188 by Yellow Fever @ SkyscraperCity, on Flickr

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IMG_8177 by Yellow Fever @ SkyscraperCity, on Flickr

IMG_8176 by Yellow Fever @ SkyscraperCity, on Flickr

[Jimbo604]

Pretty ugly looking, eh? They should have kept drilling from the tunnel portal down North Road to Lougheed mall.

[SOSS]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

You would transfer at Coquitlam Centre station and change to the eastbound/northbound platform, then wait for a Port Coquitlam-bound train, just like you do at Columbia.

Edit: err, I hadn't realized that the spur was BEFORE the station house. How silly. Yeah, I suppose you'd have to backtrack all the way to Inlet Centre.

Wouldn't it have solved all if they had shifted the station slightly west and put the spur after it? Yeah, you mention Columbia and then there's Bridgeport too.

[WBC]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Pretty ugly looking, eh? They should have kept drilling from the tunnel portal down North Road to Lougheed mall.

Ugly, cutting off one neighborhood from another, expensive to maintain, liable to fall down in case of an earthquake and worst of all taking usable space for more residents and parks. We should tear them down and build a street level super rail in their place!

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Pretty ugly looking, eh? They should have kept drilling from the tunnel portal down North Road to Lougheed mall.

I love it, helps add an interesting urban layer to the area, and i am sure the views from the train will be great.

A really neat urban setting can be built around and under them, though it is not quite as cool as the Canada Line basketweave.

Love having real Asian style looking metro infrastructure.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Pretty ugly looking, eh? They should have kept drilling from the tunnel portal down North Road to Lougheed mall.

Best way to fix that problem is build a series of skyscrappers under and above the tracks. Something similar to VanCity at main street. Problem solved.

[officedweller]

Yeah, once the area is built up you won't even see them as they'll be mid-block.

Originally Posted by SOSS

Wouldn't it have solved all if they had shifted the station slightly west and put the spur after it? Yeah, you mention Columbia and then there's Bridgeport too.

Presumably the reason for the design is to prevent the future overcrowding of one centre platform (how crowded does Bridgeport get?)

That's why Lougheed has its odd configuration too.

It seems that forcing people to walk up and down between separate platforms is preferred over having one overcrowded, unsafe platform.

(though I don't think the Port Coquitlam and Coquitlam branches would ever get to maximum crush loads, would they?)

[nname]

Originally Posted by SOSS

Wouldn't it have solved all if they had shifted the station slightly west and put the spur after it?

Where should they put the curve toward Pinetree then?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by officedweller

(though I don't think the Port Coquitlam and Coquitlam branches would ever get to maximum crush loads, would they?)

Bridgeport can get pretty busy.

It will be interesting to see what this line looks like on a day when the WCE is down.

[TransitFreak]

If u look at the track work it appears there will be dedicated platforms (4) and four separate rails a I.e. No trains sharing a platform. I do not see any switches after the station and it curves right away to Lincoln. I think what you will see is the entrance be the midpoint of the overall station - the end of the current station butting against the front of the future station. What this would suggest is either a shuttle train concept from Coquitlam to Poco or two platforms for vcc bound trains.