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Old Posted Nov 12, 2015, 4:17 AM
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AFAIK that project is turning out to be a flop... the recently completed units are still listed on MLS (1,2,3,4). They've been listed for nearly 3 months and have seen a significant price drop.

I'm not sure what percentage of the overall project is sold.
0 units sold, understandable though as I assume most people prefer to live in a place that has windows and even a shred of natural light. Last time I was out that way it looked like they had stopped work on the interior of one building and basically left the basements half finished on two others.
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but Lupi's working through recalcitrant "Brentwood Concerned Citizens" or whatever-look's like they've taken over the community association on a project at Northmount and Brisbois;

http://www.brentwoodcommunity.com/redevelopment.html



More renders in here: http://www.brentwoodcommunity.com/images..._Development_2015_10_22_Presentation.pdf
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^I know the exact lot, I drive by that all the time. It's a nice little proposal.
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Hopefully the NIMBY's lose this one, looks like a good addition to the area and the type of thing the city needs more of.
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Can someone tell me about that DensGlass material? is it just a high-tech replacement for essentially tar paper? Or is it also insulation? Wouldn't those seams need to be taped or something to create a waterproof barrier?

EDIT: from googling it seems like it's basically a fire and waterproof drywall material.
Densglass is drywall that has a fibreglass coating on the outside instead of paper, this is to avoid mould. It can be rated or unrated depending on the requirement, the rating comes from the type and density of the gypsum not the facing.
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Densglass is drywall that has a fibreglass coating on the outside instead of paper, this is to avoid mould. It can be rated or unrated depending on the requirement, the rating comes from the type and density of the gypsum not the facing.
We use it for drywall in bathrooms.
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So I guess it actually is a better tarpaper, being not only waterproof/resistant, but fire retardant as well.
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Hopefully the NIMBY's lose this one, looks like a good addition to the area and the type of thing the city needs more of.
Is there actually NIMBYism about this one? It's barely any different than the 60s building across the street, just more modern and one more story.

It seems like the kind of project which should be acceptable at all suburban noteworthy intersections.

EDIT: I could see them requesting a step down to the single story house to the north, so that it's not a 4 story wall.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2015, 6:53 PM
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Is there actually NIMBYism about this one? It's barely any different than the 60s building across the street, just more modern and one more story.

It seems like the kind of project which should be acceptable at all suburban noteworthy intersections.

EDIT: I could see them requesting a step down to the single story house to the north, so that it's not a 4 story wall.
In the document it lists some problem areas...I'm not sure who came up with the problems, but I'm guessing it's from some community members. Most of the problems seem minor, with the main issue being the ubiquitous traffic concerns.

I agree though, it's pretty minor in scale. It shouldn't be an issue.
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LOL! Seriously how many cars would be added to the streets causing traffic problems in the neighbourhood with that tiny development. That has a maximum of 21 suites plus retail, and not all the occupants will be driving around at the same time. Seems like a few NIMBY's trying to derail the project.
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^I know the exact lot, I drive by that all the time. It's a nice little proposal.
As my sister and her family live nearby, I am very familiar with this parcel too. The proposal is a great fit and exactly what we need more of in our neighbourhoods.
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So I guess it actually is a better tarpaper, being not only waterproof/resistant, but fire retardant as well.
Tar paper is still used. All buildings should have an air barrier on the outside (or an air/vapour barrier if exterior insulation is used).
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That project looks pretty good to me and seems ideal for a location like this. The 'concerns' do seem minor and I can't see them being a big issue but of course they need to be addressed. Honestly the website and presentation at least seems to be well thought out and logically presented rather than just a bunch of pitchfork waving people who are opposed to the project - just because. The way the building seems to be laid out and the way the surrounding homes are oriented mean no units will look directly into any surrounding home, and maybe a couple of back yards at the most. I can see the thought about stepping down the north half slightly however. The usual traffic concerns seem like overkill as usual but the fact that the City is considering adding a bike lane to Northmount Drive at this location should be taken into consideration. Not that I think it will make a huge difference but that does need to be considered. Regardless of whether these residential units are built for sale or rental, I would think many of them will end up being rental units (subleases etc.) with university students living in them and not many students will have cars or drive them on a regular basis if they do so traffic may be less of an issue that people think.
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LOL! Seriously how many cars would be added to the streets causing traffic problems in the neighbourhood with that tiny development. That has a maximum of 21 suites plus retail, and not all the occupants will be driving around at the same time. Seems like a few NIMBY's trying to derail the project.
What a friggin joke! I drive through that intersection every day and it's empty except at rush hour when there might be 5 cars in a row at the lights People in that area don't get out much though. They have no idea what goes on in a city.
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I took a look at the pdf file supplied in the link and this is nimbyism at its finest.
It starts off looking like a general info presentation, but by the end of reading it, it's clear this group of 9 individuals who have gotten 40 signatures on a petition are completely against it and have listed some of the dumbest lamest excuses ever for opposing something. There's only one ridiculous reason missing from the list. Dizzy Edge knows the one

I love the front page quote:

Never doubt that a small group of
thoughtful, committed citizens can
change the world. Indeed, it’s the only
thing that ever has.


More like: Never doubt that a small group of
stubborn, committed citizens can
block anything and kill it for everyone else.


These are the problems they have outlined.

Problem Areas:
Number of Businesses / Offices
 5 Retail units, plus presumably 5 office units if the same
size.
 10 businesses operating from this site. Too much
development for a relatively small area.
 The type of businesses that will occupy the site are
unknown. What kind of volume, traffic, noise, odor or
other situations will they generate?
 10 different potential situations to consider.



 Traffic
 The Northmount / Brisebois Drive intersection is already
congested at times. Visibility will be compromised by a
building that extends out to the sidewalks.
 Previous traffic study was done in summer – no school buses,
not much Calgary Transit traffic, people on holidays.
 Many children walk / bike on that corner. It will be harder for
motorists to see them.
 Gas Station had access from Northmount / Brisebois only.
Current proposal has access only from alley. How will people
know where to enter for the building?
 Northmount Drive is a future bike lane to connect
Northland Drive with 10th Street. The bike lane will
remove a traffic lane, making it worse for vehicles
turning.
 Congestion already in front of Co-op / University City:
bike lanes eliminated a turn lane.
 Traffic studies were promised upon completion of
University City. They are still to be done.
 Access only through back alley:
 The alley is unpaved. The developer has stated that the
requirement is to pave behind his property only.
 Snow, ice, mud will be a problem since the alley is not cleared or
cleaned. The alley will be in the shade of the building and in the
Winter, the ice will build up and remain.
 Trucks / delivery vehicles are a concern. The loading area takes up
part of the back alley. Large trucks will find it hard to get in and out
of the alley.
 Lighting – needs to be bright enough for parkade – will it intrude on
neighbors?
 Signage – there would need to be signs on Northmount and on
Brockington guiding people to the parkade – unsightly and on whose
properties?

 Parking
 There is enough parking for the residential, with approx.
one spot / residence. There is only 1 visitor /
handicapped spot.
 There are 7 Retail spots and 6 Office spots. There will be
5 stores and assume 5 offices. If there are 1 – 2 people
per unit, and 10 units, there could easily be 15 people
working there. They take up all available spots.
 There are NO extra spots for the customers for 10
assorted businesses.
 The parkade is a tight fit. How many people are going to want
to drive down an alley into a parkade with only a few potential
available spots?
 What if there is no spot and you have to try to turn around
and get back out?
 What if someone else is coming in as you are trying to get out?
 What if there is a delivery at the same time?
 There is no access from the parkade to the retail outlets. You
have to go out the main entrance and walk outside to get into
the businesses on the main floor.
 There is a bus stop in front of the building.
 The side of the building between the alley and Northmount is
commonly used as a turning lane. The developer has suggested this
could be 3 short-term parking spots, but it would block the
intersection if a single car is turning left.
 The developer has suggested the bus stop could be moved, freeing
up 6 or 7 spots on Northmount. This relies on parking in front of the
corner house, plus it blocks the intersection more.
 If residents of Brockington apply for parking permits, the parking will
just shift further down, to Braden or Brown Crescents.
 The number of visits, averaging 37 per hour based on Traffic Study.


 Retail Stores
 The BCA letter of opposition stated that there are already
many retail stores in the area.
 Do we have too much retail already?
 University City is still not fully occupied, there is further
redevelopment at Northland Mall, Co-op Brentwood.
 Comment at Council about some areas of the City
wanting more retail because they are underserved.
 Joanna and Greg’s business study.
 Area Business Study
 Setting a precedent
 BCA letter excerpt: Approval of the applicant’s
submission would establish a precedent that might affect
other C-N2 properties on Northmount Drive …. in both
Brentwood and Triwood, effectively establishing a
redevelopment policy without appropriate studies
(shadows, mobility, etc.), consultation of all affected
stakeholders, or process.


What Next?
1. Immediately:
Send letters to Steve Jones, the City of Calgary Planner
assigned to the file ([email protected])
2. Copy Councillor Farrell’s office, but also all the other
Councillors [email protected] and the Mayor
([email protected])
3. Copy the BCA so they know what the community thinks.
4. Make the letters personal. Tell about why you are opposed,
what you don’t like about it and why you will be affected.

City Council does react to volumes of calls, mails,
petitions, etc.
Call, write, email, twitter not only your own Councillor,
but all Councillors.

The developer will hold a community meeting probably in
November. Plan to attend, a crowd adds impact. Tell
neighbors and friends.
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The arguments against usually revolve around traffic concerns, but I doubt that this will really affect anything, it's just too small of a development.
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The arguments against usually revolve around traffic concerns, but I doubt that this will really affect anything, it's just too small of a development.
Lots of minor nitpicking, with a couple of legit concerns. The only thing missing is the someone asking where the children will play lol.
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This isn't a big project, but I'm happy to see more infill work around Westbrook.

http://www.nichecondo.ca/
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This isn't a big project, but I'm happy to see more infill work around Westbrook.

http://www.nichecondo.ca/
I like the infill in this area too. Not totally sold on this design, the entrance and front elevation has a bit on an office feel to it. It certainly will be different than the rest of the buildings on this street.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@51.0385677,-...w%3D179.76634%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
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It will stick out like a sore thumb, but I suspect it won't be long before we see more of this kind of development in that area.

One thing I really do like is the scale of it. It's not too overpowering, yet adds some nice medium density nearby an area soon to be high density.

As much as I like tall towers, I would gladly trade in one of the Guardian towers for two dozen of these kinds of developments.

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I like the infill in this area too. Not totally sold on this design, the entrance and front elevation has a bit on an office feel to it. It certainly will be different than the rest of the buildings on this street.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@51.0385677,-...w%3D179.76634%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
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