CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction, v7 - Page 86

harryc · #**1701** Posted **Nov 23, 2015, 4:14 PM**

I can understand the blank wall facing Harlem - but the one facing the station ?

SamInTheLoop · #**1702** Posted **Nov 23, 2015, 4:32 PM**

^ Yeah, this latest Oak Park design is pretty.....not so pretty.....

SamInTheLoop · #**1703** Posted **Nov 23, 2015, 4:36 PM**

Just saw this on Sloopin (sorry if mentioned here already).....soil samples seen being taken here (in front of existing low-rise on site)......1411 S Michigan......anybody know if/what plans in the works are??

spyguy · #**1704** Posted **Nov 23, 2015, 5:11 PM**

^15 floors, 264'
199 units, 2 floors of office space, 149 parking spots

SamInTheLoop · #**1705** Posted **Nov 23, 2015, 6:45 PM**

^ You're slipping, man....what took you so long to dig this one up after my inquiry!!

Looks pretty decent to me. Like the couple floors of office space worked-in. Any idea how much retail (I'd like to assume there's definitely some!!)? Any clue on architect and/or developer??

Also, these must be very high floor-to-floor heights for the residential floors to reach a total height of 264' for that many stories (realize there's some high floor-to-floor stuff going on at the bottom, but still......)

harryc · #**1706** Posted **Nov 23, 2015, 7:05 PM**

Sept 17

Oc 25

Nov 7
Looming behind the iconic Moore house

and the Thomas house - only 1 block away

Nov 9

Nov 17

Nov 20

</sarcasm> - actually pretty difficult to get a shot of ANY FLW buildings with this tower behind them - Forest lives up to it's name.

123fakestreet · #**1707** Posted **Nov 23, 2015, 8:51 PM**

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BVictor1 · #**1708** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 12:25 AM**

Community Meeting regarding 237 E. Ontario Street

What: This is the old MCA Building site at St. Clair & Ontario (SE corner)

Where: Sheraton Hotel

Time: 6PM

When: Tuesday, December 8th, 2015

I'd heard a rumor about this site 2 years ago that the developer (I don't know if the site has changed hands since) wanted to do something 'big'. Perhaps too big for the alderman. I've never seen anything, but will in a few weeks.

munchymunch · #**1709** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 12:42 AM**

^ http://www.tishman.com/properties/237.html

SolarWind · #**1710** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 1:36 AM**

November 23, 2015

Randomguy34 · #**1711** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 1:52 AM**

Crain's article about the potential higrise in Southwest Loop Spyguy posted a few days ago.

Will South Loop's apartment boom jump the river?

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By Alby Gallun
A 22-story apartment tower is in the works near the Circle Interchange, in a sleepy part of the South Loop that could be poised to take off.

The owner of a low-rise building at the southeast corner of Polk and Jefferson streets plans to build the 110-unit building on a parking lot next door, according to a zoning application filed with the city.

The property sits in a neighborhood dominated by low-rise, largely industrial buildings and some big vacant lots—still something of a frontier for residential developers, even though it's just a short walk from downtown. Most of the action these days is on the east side of the Chicago River, where thousands of apartments and condominiums are under construction or in the works....

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/realestat...m_campaign=ccb-realestatereport-20151123

ardecila · #**1712** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 8:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34

Crain's article about the potential higrise in Southwest Loop Spyguy posted a few days ago.

Will South Loop's apartment boom jump the river?

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/realestat...m_campaign=ccb-realestatereport-20151123

After reading the details in the article, I just don't see this ever happening. You've got a guy with no experience downtown, trying to build big in an extremely unproven and frankly unappealing area, not to mention the known resistance that city planners have shown toward previous attempts at residential here.

It's certainly not impossible - much of River North, West Loop, South Loop, etc was equally wasteland-ish, until it wasn't. I just don't see this developer being the first to crack the nut. Reminds me of Lexington Park to some extent, which actually did get built... but only in the reckless frenzied peak of the last bubble. And it took the developer down with it.

You would normally expect an area like this to start small, but there's really nothing that brings people to this area right now. No restaurants, no office space, no bars, no residential. The shopping on Roosevelt is a world apart, and everyone drives there.

brian_b · #**1713** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 2:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21

You are selectively quoting him (are you a Fox "journalist"?). He made a point to say EAST of the river. YOU are talking about WEST of the river. He is correct.

It doesn't matter either way. That's all Amtrak land, and everyone knows that Amtrak is more than willing to play ball with developers.

marothisu · #**1714** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

After reading the details in the article, I just don't see this ever happening. You've got a guy with no experience downtown, trying to build big in an extremely unproven and frankly unappealing area, not to mention the known resistance that city planners have shown toward previous attempts at residential here.

I think it could work, but IMO they'd either have to start smaller or build more at one time. The actual location is completely fine. It's right near a Blue Line stop, near the river, near two interstates, and not far from both UIC/University Village and South Loop. Logistically it's completely fine. What 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 about the area is that yes, it's not really appealing. The corner this guy wants to build on has stuff like a bad looking mechanic shop near it. Another corner is a big empty thing of land - not sure which corner they want to build on so I mentioned both of those. There's more industrial stuff right around there and even a power grid site, unfortunately. To the south, yes there's that sizable development (The Maxwell) with stuff like World Market, Whole Foods, LA FItness, etc.

IMO what the developer would need to do is basically buy some properties in that area and develop it with retail/commercial business. Unfortunately right south of there on both sides of Jefferson is a power grid site. If I were the developer, I'd actually build something on the SE corner of Taylor & Clinton on that big parking lot There's some actual retail/commercial there already from the development I already mentioned - Buffalo Wild Wings, Marshall's, TJ Maxx, World Market, Whole Foods, LA Fitness, etc. That would be way more attractive.

harryc · #**1715** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 3:31 PM**

Nov 20

k1052 · #**1716** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 3:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

I think it could work, but IMO they'd either have to start smaller or build more at one time. The actual location is completely fine. It's right near a Blue Line stop, near the river, near two interstates, and not far from both UIC/University Village and South Loop. Logistically it's completely fine. What 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 about the area is that yes, it's not really appealing. The corner this guy wants to build on has stuff like a bad looking mechanic shop near it. Another corner is a big empty thing of land - not sure which corner they want to build on so I mentioned both of those. There's more industrial stuff right around there and even a power grid site, unfortunately. To the south, yes there's that sizable development (The Maxwell) with stuff like World Market, Whole Foods, LA FItness, etc.

IMO what the developer would need to do is basically buy some properties in that area and develop it with retail/commercial business. Unfortunately right south of there on both sides of Jefferson is a power grid site. If I were the developer, I'd actually build something on the SE corner of Taylor & Clinton on that big parking lot There's some actual retail/commercial there already from the development I already mentioned - Buffalo Wild Wings, Marshall's, TJ Maxx, World Market, Whole Foods, LA Fitness, etc. That would be way more attractive.

The city has rebuffed attempts to do residential in this area and has so far been unwilling to change any of the area's DS zoning to allow it. Unless the developer is somehow connected and this through process has changed inside the government this will probably go nowhere.

I'm not really super concerned about this since it just means the west and south loop will continue to densify instead of spilling into this sub area. It will probably turn over one day but not this cycle.

maru2501 · #**1717** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 4:08 PM**

looking at the proposed (active) list, things are about to get much more interesting and a lot taller around here. should be a fun 2016

marothisu · #**1718** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by k1052

The city has rebuffed attempts to do residential in this area and has so far been unwilling to change any of the area's DS zoning to allow it. Unless the developer is somehow connected and this through process has changed inside the government this will probably go nowhere.

I'm not really super concerned about this since it just means the west and south loop will continue to densify instead of spilling into this sub area. It will probably turn over one day but not this cycle.

Gotcha. What about near The Maxwell though? There is a giant parking lot right nearby that I believe is used for public parking (maybe it's private - I don't remember). In any case, could there be different pressure nowadays from the city due to the looming financial crisis and their all of a sudden want to have new tax money? If someone built a 20 story residential building with retail/commercial right near there, it would definitely produce a lot more tax money for the city per year than a parking lot. You would think they'd be maybe a little more open to it. I understand not messing things up, but this area, even though it's industrial, is making zero movement lately on any type of front.

spyguy · #**1719** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 4:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

Looks pretty decent to me. Like the couple floors of office space worked-in. Any idea how much retail (I'd like to assume there's definitely some!!)? Any clue on architect and/or developer??

Also, these must be very high floor-to-floor heights for the residential floors to reach a total height of 264' for that many stories (realize there's some high floor-to-floor stuff going on at the bottom, but still......)

You're correct - height looks like it's actually 164'. No retail; the first floor is just the residential and office lobbies. Architect is BKV Group.

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

Community Meeting regarding 237 E. Ontario Street

I'd heard a rumor about this site 2 years ago that the developer (I don't know if the site has changed hands since) wanted to do something 'big'. Perhaps too big for the alderman. I've never seen anything, but will in a few weeks.

I did come across this a long time ago but wasn't sure if it was even a current proposal. Residential plopped on top of a huge parking podium.

marothisu · #**1720** Posted **Nov 24, 2015, 4:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by spyguy

I did come across this a long time ago but wasn't sure if it was even a current proposal. Residential plopped on top of a huge parking podium.

That base facade is actually kind of interesting but it's kind of ugly too. I hope it doesn't happen. Top portion is not bad - no reason right now, especially with TOD that they should have a parking garage just as big as the actual human usable space. Urgh