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My concern isn't so much that generalizations are bad, but rather that they're so open to perceptual bias as to be prone to inaccuracy (exaggeration). Once a person catches the scent of a particular generalization, they're more likely to notice things that exemplify it than they are to notice counter examples, and they're more likely to interpret things in a way to support the narrative when they actually don't support it.

So my the problem isn't with acknowledging that a particular characteristic is very common in one country compared to another, (let's say 20% of people in Canada do something and only 10% of people in the US or UK do it) my concerns is how easy it is for this to skew perception to the point where we "see" the behaviour in 35% of people in Canada and only 5% of people in the US or UK, simply because of our perceptions.
Clearing such things up is precisely what "discussion" is for!

As opposed to sweeping things under the carpet. Cachez ce sein que je ne saurais voir.
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And I am still thinking about that greatest-ever city thing. There's no objective answer but the idea of Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon makes me feel fanciful.

One of the World's least useful Wonders in Civ 1.

     
     
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Totally agree.
Here we go :


Five Fifteen, by Vincent Falardeau, on 500px
Really underwhelming (as a skyline) from that angle; Édifice G and Delta seem to be 6 stories high.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2015, 5:15 PM
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Less BS more skylines!



This might not be the right place for the discussion (shit happens sometimes though) but it's not BS. Not at all.
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This might not be the right place for the discussion (shit happens sometimes though) but it's not BS. Not at all.
Then start a new thread. The people participating in that discussion have all been around this forum long enough to know that's what they should be doing instead of diluting a thread about skylines with unrelated conversation that goes on and on for pages and pages.
     
     
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I wish there was a way to tag members here based on what industry they're in. People in the arts (or on the oil patch for different reasons and to a far lesser extent) sure communicate differently to people in commerce, I find them completely illogical and they in turn don't understand a damn thing I say. Age would be another useful category (if we're all willing to self-identify). In real life, we are selective about who we communicate with and who we take seriously, there are many valuable voices on this board and it would be nice to selectively discuss with those that have common interests and on the same page as us when it comes to communication style even if we disagree with things. I think it would be valuable for all concerned.
I'm a ballerina, so the arts, I guess. I'm 18. In order to prevent misunderstandings, I'd like to specify that only future Baryshnikovs respond to my posts.

(I also don't have a father figure or a gag reflex, but that's for my profile on another site)
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2015, 7:21 PM
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I'm a ballerina, so the arts, I guess. I'm 18. In order to prevent misunderstandings, I'd like to specify that only future Baryshnikovs respond to my posts.

(I also don't have a father figure or a gag reflex, but that's for my profile on another site)


Rousseau, where have you been all this time?
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Rousseau, where have you been all this time?
Thanks for the smiley! I'm still around. See post 8216. I think it's a good one.
     
     
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Then start a new thread. The people participating in that discussion have all been around this forum long enough to know that's what they should be doing instead of diluting a thread about skylines with unrelated conversation that goes on and on for pages and pages.
Exactly!
Start a new thread for the off-topic discussion.
Thanks for the skyline pics.
     
     
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Then start a new thread. The people participating in that discussion have all been around this forum long enough to know that's what they should be doing instead of diluting a thread about skylines with unrelated conversation that goes on and on for pages and pages.
Nah, discussion flows spontaneously, and if we started a "social commentary" thread it would just attract trolls (including interlopers who have no interest in skyscrapers or urban development) as those things are wont to do.

Hey look! A Skyline!

     
     
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Thanks for the smiley! I'm still around. See post 8216. I think it's a good one.
Aye! It was a good one.

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There, I've said it. I've gone there. I'm a white guy ranting about "political correctness gone mad."

Essentially: I think we're rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Too many people are spending too much time policing speech for evidence of perceived improprieties against the thousands of aggrieved identity groups that are shouting on the Internet and social media for "justice and respect." It's solipsistic, myopic and narcissistic in light of the real economic issues that we are faced with.
Agreed. These economic issues would be better handled with broad, sweeping social policies that apply to every person regardless of their background. Someone123's example of basic income is one of these, and one I am quite supportive of.

In housing the approach of Utah (a conservative state) is to basically just put homeless people into a basic $30,000 pre-fab home straight away. I don't know the outcomes of that project, but it surely seems better than the BC (left wing) approach: pay addicted homeless people to stay in roach-infested flophouses because they have "the right to the city" and unleash an army of social and EMS workers to tend to them as they overdose in the feces-strewn alleyways in the Downtown East Side.

Anyway, here's another Canadian skyline: prewar Windsor, ON in the top-right hand corner.



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Nah, discussion flows spontaneously, and if we started a "social commentary" thread it would just attract trolls (including interlopers who have no interest in skyscrapers or urban development) as those things are wont to do.
I couldn't agree more.
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The building in the bottom right hand corner below the Tour CIBC is very nice but you never hear about it: Le Windsor.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2015, 9:02 PM
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Anyway, here's another Canadian skyline: prewar Windsor, ON in the top-right hand corner.



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TOTALLY punching above its weight!!! (For the ratio "visible skyscrapers constituting the skyline vs the municipal population of Windsor, ON")

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One of my favorites, wartime skyline for Windsor, Ontario.

     
     
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I couldn't agree more.
Thirded. If that's what you want, it's not that hard to press the "Page Down" key until you see pictures of skylines (Nissans or otherwise), skipping the discussion.
     
     
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