PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 445

summersm343 · #**8881** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by cubanChris

Meant to post this earlier, but I walked by Pearl Properties' shuttered garage at Broad & Locust this morning and they were getting ready to fix one of the new L&I work in progress signs to the facade. I believe it was only for the demo portion, but it had a completion date on it and all that. Heard some banging around inside too, so it looks like demo is indeed commencing on this one.

Let's hope for design and project details sometime soon!

Should be getting a design and announcement within the next few weeks. I've seen a rendering and can say everyone on this forum will be very pleased.

Philly Fan · #**8882** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 3:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Should be getting a design and announcement within the next few weeks. I've seen a rendering and can say everyone on this forum will be very pleased.

Sooooooo, either the 300-footer or the 400-footer you mentioned last week.

summersm343 · #**8883** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan

Sooooooo, either the 300-footer or the 400-footer you mentioned last week.

Shush. Don't get me fired

Knight Hospitaller · #**8884** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Should be getting a design and announcement within the next few weeks. I've seen a rendering and can say everyone on this forum will be very pleased.

Oh, I'm sure somebody will have something negative to say.

Philly Fan · #**8885** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Shush. Don't get me fired

No worries--that was just between you and me.

Knight Hospitaller · #**8886** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan

No worries--that was just between you and me.

Where's the guy with the Sgt. Schultz avatar when you need him? "I see nothing! I hear nothing!"

McBane · #**8887** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 4:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Shush. Don't get me fired

That would be detrimental. Both to your career and this thread! It's great that we have enthusiasts but even better to have enthusiasts with insider knowledge.

boxbot · #**8888** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Should be getting a design and announcement within the next few weeks. I've seen a rendering and can say everyone on this forum will be very pleased.

Pearl Properties will be releasing an exciting rendering, you say?

Outta here · #**8889** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Where's the guy with the Sgt. Schultz avatar when you need him? "I see nothing! I hear nothing!"

Took a day to have lunch with my beautiful wife ..... What did I miss .

Knight Hospitaller · #**8890** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 6:53 PM**

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Took a day to have lunch with my beautiful wife ..... What did I miss .

Keeping SummersM out of trouble for his juicy project disclosures.

Outta here · #**8891** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 7:30 PM**

Glad to be of service .

PhilliesPhan · #**8892** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Should be getting a design and announcement within the next few weeks. I've seen a rendering and can say everyone on this forum will be very pleased.

As an RA at college, times get tough. I had a very long, excruciating night last night dealing with an incident. I just arrived back at my dorm from long, boring Business Statistics and Macroeconomics classes to find this.

Thank you for making my mood go from 0 to 10000000!

Williard Mouse · #**8893** Posted **Oct 6, 2015, 7:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by boxbot

Pearl Properties will be releasing an exciting rendering, you say?

Hahaha......Another carrot dangling in front of the donkey cart.

Xiubee · #**8894** Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 3:02 AM**

Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I was in college in Philadelphia in the mid-90's, my art history professor lamented the sad state of Center City as symbolized by the fact that every one of the primary east-west streets had at least one surface lot.

With the rate at which those lots are now being developed, I wondered if that statement was still true, and if so, which street is likely to be the first to be entirely lot-free? What parcels are the final obstacles, and when can we expect them to be filled? And can we declare some kind of holiday, or at least get some press attention, when that day finally comes?

summersm343 · #**8895** Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 3:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by PhilliesPhan

As an RA at college, times get tough. I had a very long, excruciating night last night dealing with an incident. I just arrived back at my dorm from long, boring Business Statistics and Macroeconomics classes to find this.

Thank you for making my mood go from 0 to 10000000!

hammersklavier · #**8896** Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 3:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Xiubee

Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I was in college in Philadelphia in the mid-90's, my art history professor lamented the sad state of Center City as symbolized by the fact that every one of the primary east-west streets had at least one surface lot.

With the rate at which those lots are now being developed, I wondered if that statement was still true, and if so, which street is likely to be the first to be entirely lot-free? What parcels are the final obstacles, and when can we expect them to be filled? And can we declare some kind of holiday, or at least get some press attention, when that day finally comes?

Technically still true. The massive Chinatown and Disney holes ensure that Race, Vine, Market, and Chestnut each still have one lot.

Walnut is the closest to being filled in. There are a small handful of surface lots left; the largest are the Fergie Tower parcel on the 1200 block and the Southern Land parcel at 1911 Walnut. Other than that, there's a lot at 20th and Walnut and a tiny one wedged between some brownstones a little further west.

Locust has a couple yet, too. There's the one at 13th that's got a proposal on it, and there's also one halfway down 13th that doesn't have jack squat going on.

That said, there's recently been some turnover on Center City's surface lots (from my contacts). Institutional and foreign investors snapping them up etc.

summersm343 · #**8897** Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 4:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Xiubee

Long time lurker, first time poster.

When I was in college in Philadelphia in the mid-90's, my art history professor lamented the sad state of Center City as symbolized by the fact that every one of the primary east-west streets had at least one surface lot.

With the rate at which those lots are now being developed, I wondered if that statement was still true, and if so, which street is likely to be the first to be entirely lot-free? What parcels are the final obstacles, and when can we expect them to be filled? And can we declare some kind of holiday, or at least get some press attention, when that day finally comes?

As Hammer said, this is pretty much still true, and it hurts my brain to think about it haha. However, I think Center City is LEAGUES better than it was in the mid-90's.

I'm pretty sure every main East to West Street in Center City has a surface lot or empty lot.

South Street
500 Block
800 Block
1100 Block South Side
1100 Block North Side small lot
1300 Block small lot
1400 Block South side parking lot
1400 Block South Side parking lot
1400 Block North side parking lot 1
1400 Block North side parking lot 2
1500 Block North side
1500 Block South side Royal Theater lots
1500 Block South side lot 2
1800 Block Walgreens Lot
2100 Block North side Lot
2100 Block South side CVS lot
23rd and South Lot
27th and South corner small lot

Lombard Street
200 Block Small North side lot
300 Block St. Peters School lot
5th and Lombard Presby Historical Society Lot
500 Block North side lot
500 Block Mother Bethel lot
700 Block lot
900 Block South side weirdness
1100 Block
1200 Block
Broad and Lombard Southeast, Northeast and Southwest corners
1500 Block
1800 Block Penn Medicine lot
1900 Block
2000 block small lot
2100 Block
2500 Block

Pine Street
200 Block Wells Fargo lot
13th and Pine Lot
Juniper and Pine Lot
1500 Block
17th and Pine

Spruce Street
1200 Block
1300 Block south side
1300 Block north side small lot

Locust Street
4th and Locust lot
900 Block
1100 Block lot
1100 Block Community garden
13th and Locust lot
1300 Block lot

Walnut Street
400 Block South Side
800 Block
1200 Block "Fergie Lot"
1900 Block "Southern Land Lot"
20th and Walnut Lot
2100 Block South side small lot
2200 Block Sunoco gas station
2300 Block Rite Aid lot
2400 Block "Mandeville" Lot

Chestnut Street
100 Block
700 Block
800 Block
900 Block
1800 Block "Boyds" lot
1900 Block lot
2000 Block south side PHA lot
2000 Block south side parking lot
21st and Chestnut small lot
24th and Chestnut small lot

Market Street
200 Block South side lot
3rd and Market lot (soon to be developed?)
800 Block
1300 Block
2100 Block
2200 Block North Side PECO lot
2200 Block South side
2300 Block south side small lot

JFK Blvd
18th and JFK Comcast grass lot
2000 block North side over tracks
2100 block North side over tracks
2100 block south side
2200 block north side over tracks
2200 block south side
2300 block north side over tracks

Arch Street
200 Block small lot
200 Block PMC lot (soon to be developed?)
300 Block north side lot
700 Block
800 Block north side
800 Block south side
900 Block north side small lot
900 Block south side
1000 Block north side
1000 Block south side
1300 Block
1900 Block full North side
20th and Arch small lot
2000 block
23rd and Arch massive riverfront lot (soon to be developed?)

Cherry Street
100 Block billboard lot
200 Block North side
300 Block North side
400 Block North side (soon to be developed?)
800 Block North side
11th and Race lot
N Marvine Street and Race lot
12th and Race lot
1300 Block lot 1
1300 Block lot 2
1400 Block
15th and Race
16th and Race
1700 Block
2200 Block small lot
23rd and Race lot
2300 block Riverside Presby apartments lot

I'm not doing anymore haha. You get the point. A ton of developable lots. I think Pine, Spruce, Locust, Walnut and Market have the best chance of completely filling in first.

BenKatzPhillytoParis · #**8898** Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 7:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

As Hammer said, this is pretty much still true, and it hurts my brain to think about it haha. However, I think Center City is LEAGUES better than it was in the mid-90's.

I'm pretty sure every main East to West Street in Center City has a surface lot or empty lot.

South Street
500 Block
800 Block
1100 Block South Side
1100 Block North Side small lot
1300 Block small lot
1400 Block South side parking lot
1400 Block South Side parking lot
1400 Block North side parking lot 1
1400 Block North side parking lot 2
1500 Block North side
1500 Block South side Royal Theater lots
1500 Block South side lot 2
1800 Block Walgreens Lot
2100 Block North side Lot
2100 Block South side CVS lot
23rd and South Lot
27th and South corner small lot

Lombard Street
200 Block Small North side lot
300 Block St. Peters School lot
5th and Lombard Presby Historical Society Lot
500 Block North side lot
500 Block Mother Bethel lot
700 Block lot
900 Block South side weirdness
1100 Block
1200 Block
Broad and Lombard Southeast, Northeast and Southwest corners
1500 Block
1800 Block Penn Medicine lot
1900 Block
2000 block small lot
2100 Block
2500 Block

Pine Street
200 Block Wells Fargo lot
13th and Pine Lot
Juniper and Pine Lot
1500 Block
17th and Pine

Spruce Street
1200 Block
1300 Block south side
1300 Block north side small lot

Locust Street
4th and Locust lot
900 Block
1100 Block lot
1100 Block Community garden
13th and Locust lot
1300 Block lot

Walnut Street
400 Block South Side
800 Block
1200 Block "Fergie Lot"
1900 Block "Southern Land Lot"
20th and Walnut Lot
2100 Block South side small lot
2200 Block Sunoco gas station
2300 Block Rite Aid lot
2400 Block "Mandeville" Lot

Chestnut Street
100 Block
700 Block
800 Block
900 Block
1800 Block "Boyds" lot
1900 Block lot
2000 Block south side PHA lot
2000 Block south side parking lot
21st and Chestnut small lot
24th and Chestnut small lot

Market Street
200 Block South side lot
3rd and Market lot (soon to be developed?)
800 Block
1300 Block
2100 Block
2200 Block North Side PECO lot
2200 Block South side
2300 Block south side small lot

JFK Blvd
18th and JFK Comcast grass lot
2000 block North side over tracks
2100 block North side over tracks
2100 block south side
2200 block north side over tracks
2200 block south side
2300 block north side over tracks

Arch Street
200 Block small lot
200 Block PMC lot (soon to be developed?)
300 Block north side lot
700 Block
800 Block north side
800 Block south side
900 Block north side small lot
900 Block south side
1000 Block north side
1000 Block south side
1300 Block
1900 Block full North side
20th and Arch small lot
2000 block
23rd and Arch massive riverfront lot (soon to be developed?)

Cherry Street
100 Block billboard lot
200 Block North side
300 Block North side
400 Block North side (soon to be developed?)
800 Block North side
11th and Race lot
N Marvine Street and Race lot
12th and Race lot
1300 Block lot 1
1300 Block lot 2
1400 Block
15th and Race
16th and Race
1700 Block
2200 Block small lot
23rd and Race lot
2300 block Riverside Presby apartments lot

I'm not doing anymore haha. You get the point. A ton of developable lots. I think Pine, Spruce, Locust, Walnut and Market have the best chance of completely filling in first.

Wow! This is an amazing inventory. I think this should be shared outside this forum. Could be a great development tool. You could share it with the city commerce department.

On the topic of the metric—of course number of surface lots is really important. But using the threshold of 1 per major east-west street river to river does not seem informative. If we only had 1 for each street, like one surface lot for all 25 blocks of walnut street river to river that would be pretty good. Even Manhattan has them.

br323206 · #**8899** Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 12:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by BenKatzPhillytoParis

Wow! This is an amazing inventory. I think this should be shared outside this forum. Could be a great development tool. You could share it with the city commerce department.

On the topic of the metric—of course number of surface lots is really important. But using the threshold of 1 per major east-west street river to river does not seem informative. If we only had 1 for each street, like one surface lot for all 25 blocks of walnut street river to river that would be pretty good. Even Manhattan has them.

There are people at the city commerce department that read this site.

cubanChris · #**8900** Posted **Oct 7, 2015, 2:29 PM**

I happened to walk by the Fergie's lot on Walnut this morning and there was a small truck boring holes into a few spots. I don't know whether this is related to the project or something else, but fingers crossed this project gets moving and knocks it off of that Walnut surface lot list =)