DENVER | Main Development Thread #6

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by rds70

The residential portion is in the building permit review process, so that will start near the beginning of the year.

Hope is fading but I still cling to a scintilla of a chance that this will be a condo project. Presumably we've have to see construction defects legislation passed next year for this to be a possibility.

Originally Posted by PLANSIT

RDS with the scoop:

A few months back I checked out the background of Lynd. Quite the family tale of two brothers. Good to see they're sticking around though. In fact they're another developer that has a project pending for "end of the year" start in RiNo I believe.

[TakeFive]

It's a weekend in the Rockies

Photo credit: Glenn Randall Photography "Storm Light Over the Cimarrons, San Juan Mountains, Colorado."

Anybody remember Jerry Orbach aka NYPD Detective Lennie Briscoe in "Law and Order"? Try to Remember

[wong21fr]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

Hope is fading but I still cling to a scintilla of a chance that this will be a condo project. Presumably we've have to see construction defects legislation passed next year for this to be a possibility.

You'd have to see legislation passed tomorrow. Won't happen. Accept the apartments.

[RyanD]

Originally Posted by wong21fr

You'd have to see legislation passed tomorrow. Won't happen. Accept the apartments.

Or... Starting from the 600k's. Don't they have to have some affordable units in there too? So 7 units for 400k and up!

[RyanD]

OH! I have a new photo I took from Lookout Mountain. By far the clearest, cleanest night photo I've taken from up there:

[Robert.hampton]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

A few months back I checked out the background of Lynd. Quite the family tale of two brothers. Good to see they're sticking around though. In fact they're another developer that has a project pending for "end of the year" start in RiNo I believe.

Is this different than the 17th and lafayette mixed use project thats already cleared?

[TakeFive]

RyanD... Very nice.

Originally Posted by Robert.hampton

Is this different than the 17th and lafayette mixed use project thats already cleared?

rds70 posted the RiNo project back on April 8 at Denver Cityscape.

The 8 story building planned for approximately 3063 Brighton Boulevard would include three levels of structured parking and rooftop amenities. The project architect is Valerio Dewalt Train Associates of Chicago. The project is planned to start construction in late 2015, with completion in early 2017. Here is a rendering:

Same architect so similar look.

[CherryCreek]

Originally Posted by RyanD

^ That project is up for denial. Don't get too attached.

EDIT: Lest we not forget:

This property is already an eyesore. For those worrying about the failure to build affordable housing in Denver, just wait a while. Projects like this are Denver's future affordable housing. By future I mean like in five years when this ugly house of sticks is already falling down.

[Robert.hampton]

Originally Posted by TakeFive

RyanD... Very nice.



rds70 posted the RiNo project back on April 8 at Denver Cityscape.

Same architect so similar look.

Sorry I was referring to the other place (listed as 17th and park). Is it the same lot at 17th and Lafayette that has been cleared and is briefly references here:
http://www.businessden.com/2015/07/21/uptown-apartment-project-sold-for-7-3m/

If it's something new in addition to that project that intersection is going to change drastically.

[RyanD]

Tower cranes for the Country Club Towers!

Speer: Country Club Towers Update #2

[enjo13]

Originally Posted by CherryCreek

This property is already an eyesore. For those worrying about the failure to build affordable housing in Denver, just wait a while. Projects like this are Denver's future affordable housing. By future I mean like in five years when this ugly house of sticks is already falling down.

This is such nonsense.

[TakeFive]

Easy Like Sunday Morning

RyanD... Great crane shots. I like how they plunked those cranes down in the middle of bushes.

So, what say you Millennials?
"Ban smoking. No panhandling. Move out the transients. Plus, green spaces, free WiFi and better shopping." - according to Molly Armbrister Denver Business Journal

With the 16th Street Mall floundering among many demographics including Millennials the City and Downtown Denver Partnership have a Big Mess on their hands. Instructing the Millennials to "Think Big" at the recent CollaborEAT they seem to appreciate the challenge. Not only has the Mall become expensive to maintain but it needs major reinvestment.

Option #1 - Tear out the Mall and do a Green Street similar to what was done on 14th Street. Include one dedicated lane for the "Mall" bus with a second on 15 Street, also with a Green Street do-over. Let em build 40/50 story towers.

Option #2 - Run Mall buses and dedicated bike lanes down the middle of 16th Street with nice wide landscaped sidewalks.

Option #3 - Leave it much as it is other than some specific upgrades and flood the Mall with "Ambassadors" decked out in colorful vests especially at night along with more of a police presence.

Option #4 - ???


"2785 Speer magnet for medical students"
September 18, 2015 by John Rebchook, Denver Real Estate Watch

Renters from Aurora?

There is a good chance there is a doctor in the house in the largest apartment community in Jefferson Park. Or at least a soon-to-be-physician.

“Aurora?” I asked her. “Why would people from Aurora come to northwest Denver?”

She said they are mostly medical students, who are training to be doctors at the Anschutz Medical Campus at the University of Colorado

They expect to have 2785 Speer finished by the end of October and leased up by the end of the year.

[Cirrus]

There's a guy in the City Discussions forum asking for advice on what to see in Denver. Go help him out.

[FunctionForm]

Originally Posted by enjo13

This is such nonsense.

I agree with CherryCreek 100%. It's a cheaply constructed, not particularly good looking building at prominent intersection in our city. After 5 years of move-ins and move-outs, the building will show its wear. Whatever REIT portfolio this is likely part of today will sell the property and move on, leaving us with the eyesore it already is. We shouldn't have an attitude that any construction for the sake of filling a vacant lot is necessarily a good thing.

[TakeFive]

Originally Posted by FunctionForm

I agree with CherryCreek 100%. It's a cheaply constructed, not particularly good looking building at prominent intersection in our city. After 5 years of move-ins and move-outs, the building will show its wear. Whatever REIT portfolio this is likely part of today will sell the property and move on, leaving us with the eyesore it already is. We shouldn't have an attitude that any construction for the sake of filling a vacant lot is necessarily a good thing.

I wish that when making a "It's cheaply constructed" statement that there would be specific reasons/examples of what that means.

The Pauls Company is certainly capable of building good quality:

Credit: Calgary Mike

I don't mind how it looks: See HERE and HERE - Photos by Justin, Denver Urban Review posted September 4th.

It may indeed be that this project is intended to be on the affordable side. They may be intending to be Hispanic friendly if the Big Truck in the 2nd picture is any clue. Plus I assume that BBVA Compass is Hispanic friendly. Whether correct or not I'm fine with an apartment that is more affordable in that area.

[enjo13]

Originally Posted by FunctionForm

I agree with CherryCreek 100%. It's a cheaply constructed, not particularly good looking building at prominent intersection in our city.

It's a prominent intersection only in that people drive by it alot. There's a reason the shopping centers next door can't keep anything open in their retail spots. There is basically no foot traffic in that area.

You know what fixes that? More residents. I disagree that wood framed structures are such catastrophes. I keep hearing this same argument. This stick buildings are going to be the slums of tomorrow! I just don't see a lot of evidence that it's the case. There are a lot of cheaply constructed buildings (those beige monsters a few blocks away spring to mind) that haven't succumbed to the tenements that apparently await us in the future.

While this building may not be particularly inspiring, it's already a pleasant one at street level. It blends into the landscape pretty effectively and it sure doesn't look particularly cheap to me.

Denver is in a really good spot by my estimation. We have a lot of really nice buildings under construction right now. We have a lot of pretty ok buildings. We also have a lot of buildings that are "meh", but that's just fine too.

We shouldn't have an attitude that any construction for the sake of filling a vacant lot is necessarily a good thing.

On that point I massively disagree.

[rds70]

Originally Posted by RyanD

Tower cranes for the Country Club Towers!

Speer: Country Club Towers Update #2

It looks like the tower cranes will ultimately get another 75? feet taller:

[RyanD]

Originally Posted by rds70

It looks like the tower cranes will ultimately get another 75? feet taller:

That would make sense. I think the taller crane is maxed out for safe 'freestanding' height, so it's going to need to get anchored.

[Scottk]

One of the towers is going to be ~100 feet taller than the other?

Damn, I thought they both were going to be the same height

[comoneymaker]

More than 75. It needs to be taller than the building. Id say at least another 100