Stadiums and Arenas of Canada part 2

[king10]

Originally Posted by Denscity

Ya '06 aint old.

For technology it is. Tech usually has a decade long lifespan.

[FutureSmith]

^^^True. Besides, the standard is changing now. Toronto, Ottawa and Winnipeg upgraded their boards, Edmonton and Quebec City having brand new boards to go with their new arenas and Vancouver and Montreal already having stellar boards...Calgary is getting left behind. Though I would expect that the Flames will concentrate on getting a new arena before worrying about the board.

[bkd]

Originally Posted by #1Fan

With all due respect, show me a stadium that looks exactly like the rendering. At&T stadium, the new Oiler stadium, heck, even the MTS upgrades have been ho-hum compared to the renderings. Renderings are designed to sell the buyer on the facility. Of course they're going to be digitally enhanced.

Come again? Oilers arena looks just fine so far... and even so, only the steel frame has gone up really. Impossible to make that statement with where construction currently stands.

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

I remember about a year ish ago, This thread was absolutely ripping me apart because I said the concepts of Stadiums are always dressed up prettier than the finished product and I referenced IGF. Every one lost it on me

And here we are a year later. although it looks beautiful....The quality just isn't what the concept was showing

It's exactly the same as the rendering, it's just a transfer from animation to real life. Other than the wind screen in the SE corner no longer being included, the stadium is exactly as the render suggests. One other thing different is that the south video board will be much bigger than the one rendered. Was told it's almost twice as big as the current one in the NE corner of Taylor Field.

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

I said the same thing last year when the Sadiums renders first came out I said it probably will be the same quality build as IGF. I just couldn't see the extra 80M going that far with inflation and so on, They ripped me apart for it and went on rants about how IGF's builder/desinger didn't know what they were doing and this company is more credible bla bla bla it will be exactly like the render bla bla bla. I had a feeling I was right and if the Exterior sets the standard of what this stadium will be than Regina will have the same stadium concept as Winnipeg. A great modern stadium that will do the job flawlessly BUT will feel Cheap.

You're being ripped apart because you are still wrong. All the materials being used are exactly what they said they were going to use. It's nobody else fault other than your own that can distinguish the difference between animation & reality. In person, the siding already up at Mosaic looks even better than I thought it would.

[Steveston]

A good article in the Vancouver Sun today, about Rogers Arena/GM Place's 20th birthday.

www.vancouversun.com/sports/Rogers+Arena+still+rockin+years+later/11325281/story.html

Interesting, given the never-ending debates here about facility financing, locations, and amenities.

[#1Fan]

Originally Posted by bkd

Come again? Oilers arena looks just fine so far... and even so, only the steel frame has gone up really. Impossible to make that statement with where construction currently stands.

This is part of my point, and I agree with you. The Oilers arena will be unreal and currently looks great, however it will not look "polished" like the renderings (digitally modified to add that extra flare). See below. Patting ones self on the back because you (not you bkd) said a stadium won't look as polished as the renderings and therefore cheap makes me chuckle.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

"Actual building not looking as rendering showed" shocker

[blueandgoldguy]

I do like the diagonal jagged green stripe on the side of new Mosaic. Identifies with the team colours obviously, and secondly, it "pops" much more than a single shade would.

[oiler-dude]

Originally Posted by #1Fan

This is part of my point, and I agree with you. The Oilers arena will be unreal and currently looks great, however it will not look "polished" like the renderings (digitally modified to add that extra flare). See below. Patting ones self on the back because you (not you bkd) said a stadium won't look as polished as the renderings and therefore cheap makes me chuckle.

I don't believe what you see in the Edmonton construction shots is the cladding of the arena, but rather a base for insulation, etc. with the cladding on top of that.

[Villaggio]

Quebec's new arena light tests:

[Nicko999]

Wow, everything about the arena is a success. Congrats QC!

[Migs]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

The concepts of new Mosaic show the siding to have a translucent quality while in reality it looks to be industrial siding. You are definitely right about that aspect of it being less pretty than the renders.

I always wondered what that translucent material was supposed to composed off? Who knows? Maybe the industrial siding is the first compromise on materials that had to be made with the $285 million budget.

You need to compare the same parts of the stadium. Look closer, not all aspects of the siding are translucent, only specific portions. The only part of the stadium that has started the exterior siding is a portion that is not translucent.

Look closer, it's identical

http://youtu.be/ljegAo3Sq5E

[Migs]

Looks identical to me.

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by SkydivePilot

" . . . . . feel Cheap."????!!!! The photos don't do her any justice; but believe me, Mosaic II will neither look nor feel "cheap." Come by and see.

This will be a 50-some-odd year stadium, and it needs to be made of durable construction material/siding 'n that, . . and it is [initially] an outdoor facility. (At present, . . unless they stick a lid on 'er.)

Originally Posted by #1Fan

Patting ones self on the back because you (not you bkd) said a stadium won't look as polished as the renderings and therefore cheap makes me chuckle.[/IMG]

woah woah woah

You guys are putting words in my mouth I never said Mosiac looks cheap. I said the finish on IGF feels cheap. I was pointing out that if they cut corners on the renders like they did with IGF, mosiac may have the cheap industrial feel like IGF and I'm a bombers fan so I can say that. I just personally don't like the medal siding on the interior of IGF I think it looks terrible and If they use it on the interior like they did in Winnipeg Mosiac has the potential to have the same cheap feel. I'm entitled to that opinion even if %90 of you disagree with me.

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

And just to clarify I'm not trashing the facade of Mosiac.

apparently not clear enough

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by Migs

You're being ripped apart because you are still wrong. All the materials being used are exactly what they said they were going to use. It's nobody else fault other than your own that can distinguish the difference between animation & reality. In person, the siding already up at Mosaic looks even better than I thought it would.

Originally Posted by Migs

Looks identical to me.

Originally Posted by Migs

You need to compare the same parts of the stadium. Look closer, not all aspects of the siding are translucent, only specific portions. The only part of the stadium that has started the exterior siding is a portion that is not translucent. Look closer, it's identical

Yeah... thanks for showing up but I think we cleared this up about 2 pages back

Originally Posted by HomerSPC

If you're going to compare the render to the actual product, compare the right areas. The area nearly completed is on the South-East side of the stadium, the render is the North-West portion. While there are no pictures of the South-East side, this render shows both a translucent and fully opaque part of the siding, depending on where you look. This is because where the translucent parts are is the ramps to go up and down.

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

AHH fair enough I didn't even notice that.

I based my opinion of the differences between the render and the real thing on the picture I posted. And after HomerSPC posted a picture clearly showing the solid section I politely retracted my statement. It should have been left at that no need to carry on

[Migs]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

Yeah... thanks for showing up but I think we cleared this up about 2 pages back




I based my opinion of the differences between the render and the real thing on the picture I posted. And after HomerSPC posted a picture clearly showing the solid section I politely retracted my statement. It should have been left at that no need to carry on

People are taking issue because you tried to come on here and gloat that you thought you were right about the Regina stadium being less than what was sold to us last May when the design was released. Next time don't try to gloat because it makes you look even worse when you're still wrong.

Cheers!

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by Migs

People are taking issue because you tried to come on here and gloat that you thought you were right about the Regina stadium being less than what was sold to us last May when the design was released. Next time don't try to gloat because it makes you look even worse when you're still wrong.

Cheers!

No not cheers. again that was before I realized their was 2 different surfaces you ignorant little Jerk. And even if i stuck to my original point. The damn stadium isn't built yet so I could say that the interior will be made of nothing but sugar and as of right now I'm not necessarily wrong and your not necessarily right. Either Way live in the reality that I now realize the render is comparable to the real product and stop acting as if I didn't admit my mistake

[FutureSmith]

Originally Posted by Villaggio

Quebec's new arena light tests:

Wow. Critics of Videotron's exterior may have second thoughts after seeing it lit up like that. Was the white exterior designed to be projected onto, or is that a new development? The same method was used to liven up London's national theatre. Good job, QC!

[zoomer]

That siding does look dated and cheap. Would prefer a smooth surface regardless of the material. Or much wider aluminum panels. Brighter colours perhaps? Yah they have to match the Rider Green, but it just looks drab. But that appears to be just a small section, and overall I'm sure it'll be in the top ten of all stadiums in Canada. Ok, top three for sure.