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Old Posted Aug 14, 2015, 11:20 PM
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If you showed that picture of Quebec to most people they wouldn't think it's a North American City..

This is what a north american city looks like..

http://c8.alamy.com/
     
     
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If you showed that picture of Quebec to most people they wouldn't think it's a North American City..

This is what a north american city looks like..

http://c8.alamy.com/
What city is that? Cleveland?
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2015, 1:18 AM
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Cleveland is the prototypical North American City.

A city built for cars and heavy industries.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2015, 1:41 AM
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If you showed that picture of Quebec to most people they wouldn't think it's a North American City..

This is what a north american city looks like..

http://c8.alamy.com/
Oh, play nice. Poor Cleveland. They've got something going for them. Wasn't Howard the Duck set there?
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2015, 1:45 AM
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You can't compare Cleveland to QC. One was built for cars, and the other was not. It makes more sense to compare QC to Montreal, Boston, Portland (Maine,) etc. And you will see there are striking similarities with the city layout, architecture, etc.
     
     
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any city can move into the Montréal leagues in the height department, 210m is the maximum here.
even with new tallest to begin construction in cities like Halifax & Saskatoon in the next couple years, Montreal will still have a tallest building almost exactly twice as tall as these cities newly constructed tallest
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2015, 2:13 AM
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Well, I didn't have to use Cleveland. Could've used Detroit, Buffalo, Toronto, Akron, Pittsburgh, Hamilton Chicago, St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Denver, Seattle, etc, etc
     
     
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Well, I didn't have to use Cleveland. Could've used Detroit, Buffalo, Toronto, Akron, Pittsburgh, Hamilton Chicago, St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Denver, Seattle, etc, etc
Pretty much. Replace Toronto by Cincinnati and Seattle by Memphis and you have the whole list right
     
     
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Hey, parts of Hamilton could pass for industrial era Dublin or Glasgow.
Which parts? (Serious question)
     
     
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Cleveland is actually one of the more "urban" cities in the US.

Yes it has it's freeways but it also has decent transit with Metro, LRT, and BRT. It has a rather storied past and has come a long way from the 70s and has become a bit of a magnet for Millenials as it has always been a left wing city. The downtown is one of the few in the US that actually stays busy after 5pm and has decent shopping and Cleveland has always been recognized for it's artistic prowess.

In terms of skyline, Cleveland has always been one of my favorite. I like the way it's spaced, it has a great variety of architecture, and the tall buildings it has are actually worth having. It's skyline may not be dramatic but like the city itself, it has character.
     
     
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If you showed that picture of Quebec to most people they wouldn't think it's a North American City..

This is what a north american city looks like..

http://c8.alamy.com/
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You can't compare Cleveland to QC. One was built for cars, and the other was not. It makes more sense to compare QC to Montreal, Boston, Portland (Maine,) etc. And you will see there are striking similarities with the city layout, architecture, etc.
Quebec City has (lots of) highways and some tall buildings too. They're just cropped out of that last photo. A shot taken from north of the city would look similar.

Mostly Cleveland seems to be missing the pre-1850 bones, things like street finer-grained street networks and smaller lots. The more modern construction there is not that different from Montreal. It's actually a bit depressing; there aren't a lot of great neighbourhoods in Canada that weren't developed at least 150 years ago, and there isn't a big national inventory of places like that. Areas with more modern development tend to be less pedestrian-friendly and more sterile.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2015, 6:09 AM
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You can't compare Cleveland to QC. One was built for cars, and the other was not.
You're aware that Quebec City has the most kms of highway per capita in Canada and is third in North America right?
     
     
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Which parts? (Serious question)
Well, it's a bit annoying because while trying to remember how to link I found a place in Dublin that looked almost identical to parts of Hamilton and then lost it, but here's a mixture of the two towns that look like they could be the same city (Hamilton's density at the time was a bit lower, but it's a similar idea). Dublin seems to really like duplexes while Hamilton leans toward closely packed single homes, which are probably of similar density, especially with the large set backs Dublin does. (Also some contemporary bits of Toronto probably would fit to, but I don't know Toronto's neighbourhoods as well, I'll try to grab at least one pic.)

https://goo.gl/maps/AdEqj
https://goo.gl/maps/dktih
https://goo.gl/maps/XKQGg
https://goo.gl/maps/4G0eC
https://goo.gl/maps/9rBNb
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https://goo.gl/maps/1t8mf
https://goo.gl/maps/OIULZ
https://goo.gl/maps/oBB2h
https://goo.gl/maps/A04aM
https://goo.gl/maps/brsGz

The big difference is Canada tore down more or had more gaps to begin with. I suppose in the end Toronto and Hamilton are like Dublin meets Cincinnati or something.


It also seems that the Scottish cities are more like Montreal than they are Toronto or Hamilton.
     
     
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There is only one street in Montreal that I find "European-ish," and it is this one. The other were either too simple, or were built at a time when Canada did have enough wealth to push for better looking buildings but by this time, the architectural styles have already diverged.

The scale is European, but the buildings are clearly North American. The closest analogue to that shot of Montreal is Lower Manhattan or Boston's North End (same buildings, different materials).
     
     
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The scale is European, but the buildings are clearly North American. The closest analogue to that shot of Montreal is Lower Manhattan or Boston's North End (same buildings, different materials).
From what I saw in streetview it looks a lot like Glasgow.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2015, 11:07 PM
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From what I saw in streetview it looks a lot like Glasgow.
Street is too wide to be considered European.
     
     
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