Canadian City Proposals - Page 203

O-tacular · #**4041** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 2:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

I don't hate it or love it, though it does look a little busy. Nothing to do with the city though, I honestly didn't realise it was Vancouver at first until reading a bit.

(Also Vancouver certainly does not have the best weather in Canada. Any sane person wants at least 3 months of snow in winter.)

Not to mention sunlight.

Beedok · #**4042** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 2:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Are you referring to the now dead proposal for 3 Eau Claire? If so then I agree it was slightly uglier.

Nah, that thing by the Calgary Tower.

(not the best pics of it, but I forget what it's called)

MexiQuebecois · #**4043** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 3:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

Actually the building is awesome! It suits the location perfectly. It is contextual in the fact that people do not understand anything that is not a box and very tall! The view cones of Vancouver make it more dramatic for the setting of the location. It fits very well.

You well get a lot of hate because of the jealous nature people feel for Vancouver. It is obviously the best city in Canada. Certain people do not like to admit this fact! The weather the location, the mountains, the ocean, the fact some people do not think it is a coastal city.

Taking the bait here, but you know that's a very subjective opinion, right? I do love Vancouver and enjoy visiting, but to me the best city in Canada is Montreal

People are allowed to criticize a building without being stoned to death. Add me to those who don't have a lot of love for that building. Tons of other projects going up in Vancouver that I do like, though!

WhipperSnapper · #**4044** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

Actually the building is awesome! It suits the location perfectly. It is contextual in the fact that people do not understand anything that is not a box and very tall! The view cones of Vancouver make it more dramatic for the setting of the location. It fits very well.

You well get a lot of hate because of the jealous nature people feel for Vancouver. It is obviously the best city in Canada. Certain people do not like to admit this fact! The weather the location, the mountains, the ocean, the fact some people do not think it is a coastal city.

A few more posts like this and good old Captain Picard is going to give himself an anurism.

WhipperSnapper · #**4045** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 4:04 PM**

The rest of Canada only understands tall, boxy, uniform towers. Something to be said of a best city in which its greatest attributes rest on its surroundings

You wouldn't think in this modern age mountains would be much of an impediment however, the insular comments flow free whenever a Vancouver centred critique arises.

Beedok · #**4046** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

The rest of Canada only understands tall, boxy, uniform towers. Something to be said of a best city in which its greatest attributes rest on its surroundings

You wouldn't think in this modern age mountains would be much of an impediment however, the insular comments flow free whenever a Vancouver centred critique arises.

I'm honestly not sure if you're attacking or defending Vancouver.

Klazu · #**4047** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 7:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

Also Vancouver certainly does not have the best weather in Canada. Any sane person wants at least 3 months of snow in winter.

In Vancouver we have the choice. Either stay in the city and enjoy no snow on streets and nice non-freezing temperatures OR drive 15 mins up the mountains you you have meters of snow and -10 Celsius. Vancouver is the only city in Canada where YOU decide which weather you want to enjoy and you can switch in between two climates several times a day.

Beedok · #**4048** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 7:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

In Vancouver we have the choice. Either stay in the city and enjoy no snow on streets and nice non-freezing temperatures OR drive 15 mins up the mountains you you have meters of snow and -10 Celsius. Vancouver is the only city in Canada where YOU decide which weather you want to enjoy and you can switch in between two climates several times a day.

It's also the only city (apart from Victoria and some other nearby cities) where you don't get to live in the metre of snow and -10 degrees. If you're like me and don't drive then you're in trouble. Either way I don't want to have to commute to get to decent weather.

This isn't the weather thread though, so we should stop discussing Vancouver's troubles with winter. (At least you have okay summers. A bit dry for my liking, but fairly cool.)

Ashok · #**4049** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

What is that building in the middle? :O This photo deserve to go in the ugly thread.

O-tacular · #**4050** Posted **Aug 10, 2015, 10:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

Nah, that thing by the Calgary Tower.

(not the best pics of it, but I forget what it's called)

That's Le Germaine. The glass tower is office, the prodema panelled one is hotel and the top section is residential. When I first saw the renderings I wasn't crazy for it but I really like the finished product. I think it's better than the Vancouver proposal. Besides the hole in the centre they have nothing in common.

Chadillaccc · #**4051** Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 2:58 AM**

This is a much more flattering and realistically coloured image of Le Germain.

http://www.archiii.com/2013/07/hotel...-lemaymichaud/

and a closer up of ground level...

http://www.archiii.com/2013/07/hotel...-lemaymichaud/

All in all, it's actually a pretty cool tower. It's a bit clunky but it's also super funky, I would miss it if it weren't around. That said, I don't mind the Vancouver one either. It's footprint is going to be huge and I think Vancouver can use a bit of that.

dleung · #**4052** Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 6:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Spocket

Pretty much. The only thing people around here ever seem to have praise for is a box. Maybe it's shiny. Maybe it has cross bracing. Maybe it has real bricks at street level. Doesn't matter so long as it's got a square footprint. So long as it's a box it's "Gorgeous !" and "Spectacular !".

Boosters like what they already have. If their city only builds boxes, than non-boxes are inferior. If they have to compare a building to something as obscure as "elephant cankles" in order to criticize it, then there probably isn't much wrong with said building. My main problem with that Vancouver proposal (along with One-Pacific) is that's joining that tired wavy aesthetic now copied in tons of cities that aren't Miami/Sydney.

O-tacular · #**4053** Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 1:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

Boosters like what they already have. If their city only builds boxes, than non-boxes are inferior. If they have to compare a building to something as obscure as "elephant cankles" in order to criticize it, then there probably isn't much wrong with said building. My main problem with that Vancouver proposal (along with One-Pacific) is that's joining that tired wavy aesthetic now copied in tons of cities that aren't Miami/Sydney.

Surely you can see that it's elephantine in its sheer girth! The cankles analogy is due to the hole in the middle making two cankles.

WhipperSnapper · #**4054** Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 1:26 PM**

Don't bother. He's just another one that tell the good from the bad unless it's blatantly obvious. (Like on the cover of something). It's all about massing instead of quality.

Beedok · #**4055** Posted **Aug 11, 2015, 1:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

This is a much more flattering and realistically coloured image of Le Germain.

A) I think that's a less flattering angle.

B) That's definitely a less realistic colour. That's what it might look like for half an hour every evening. My pic is what the light is like from 11 to late afternoon.

TorontoDrew · #**4056** Posted **Aug 12, 2015, 3:53 PM**

I have to agree with those that don't like it. That Le Germain hotel looks horrible, it feels dated, like 1980's dated. the top section is the worst part.

MonkeyRonin · #**4057** Posted **Aug 12, 2015, 4:54 PM**

If you got rid of that...thing plunked on top, the two separate bottom portions would make for a pair of nice little towers.

theman23 · #**4058** Posted **Aug 12, 2015, 5:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

Actually the building is awesome! It suits the location perfectly. It is contextual in the fact that people do not understand anything that is not a box and very tall! The view cones of Vancouver make it more dramatic for the setting of the location. It fits very well.

You well get a lot of hate because of the jealous nature people feel for Vancouver. It is obviously the best city in Canada. Certain people do not like to admit this fact! The weather the location, the mountains, the ocean, the fact some people do not think it is a coastal city.

When I think of all the great things about Vancouver, the fact that some people do not think it is a coastal city is certainly right up there at the top of the list.

theman23 · #**4059** Posted **Aug 12, 2015, 5:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Looks like a giant food mixing machine.

Coffee maker from the side, brita water filter from the front.

Chadillaccc · #**4060** Posted **Aug 13, 2015, 2:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

A) I think that's a less flattering angle.

B) That's definitely a less realistic colour. That's what it might look like for half an hour every evening. My pic is what the light is like from 11 to late afternoon.

I was talking about the first pic being more realistic in colour, which it is. Your photos are very greyed out, I know that I don't see the world as colour-unsaturated, no contrast. The first one of yours is more like the real thing though.