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Old Posted Aug 9, 2015, 12:52 AM
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2015, 12:53 AM
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With all the highrises in Vancouver, how is not liking a single one (especially one that hasn't even been built yet) an indication of hatred toward the entire city??
There's an underlying tendency of responses that this has highlighted.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2015, 1:06 AM
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Perhaps we should propose some type of affirmative action policy. Since Vancouver proposals are naturally less popular nationally due to their location, everyone outside Vancouver needs to consider every proposal there to be 25% more attractive than in their initial reaction.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2015, 1:10 AM
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Perhaps we should propose some type of affirmative action policy. Since Vancouver proposals are naturally less popular nationally due to their location, everyone outside Vancouver needs to consider every proposal there to be 25% more attractive than in their initial reaction.
In the end it doesn't really matter but this forum is not representative in a nationally-balanced way as a result. That is the status quo.
     
     
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You guys are so fickle. Seems like the only thing some people around here like are boxes. Big, shiny boxes.
I know. Even the slightest decoration like balconies and they hate it.
     
     
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Perhaps we should propose some type of affirmative action policy. Since Vancouver proposals are naturally less popular nationally due to their location, everyone outside Vancouver needs to consider every proposal there to be 25% more attractive than in their initial reaction.
Haha ya totally!
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2015, 2:05 AM
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Hey, at least people are talking about the Vancouver proposal. A few days ago Someone123 posted a proposal for what looks to be a new second-tallest building in Halifax and no one even noticed

I was kind of curious as to how people thought it compared to the (heavily discussed) relatively similar Edmonton proposal posted immediately after...
     
     
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Hey, at least people are talking about the Vancouver proposal. A few days ago Someone123 posted a proposal for what looks to be a new second-tallest building in Halifax and no one even noticed

I was kind of curious as to how people thought it compared to the (heavily discussed) relatively similar Edmonton proposal posted immediately after...
Noticing that Vancouver proposal isn't exactly a good thing. Who could ignore something that looks like a cross between elephant cankles and the cruise ship Richard Simmons filmed Sweatin' to the Oldies on.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2015, 6:11 AM
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Haters gonna hate the most beautiful, least frigid major city in Canada, endlessly, always.

Trust me, we're used to it.

You wanna see a tourist gush about the beauty of your city like they do about ours? Well, it ain't gonna happen.

#jealousbitches

Maybe one day we'll build a million boxes or base our economy upon the destruction of the entire planet's future to get some respect...

And yeah, I'm a former citizen of Montreal, Toronto, and Edmonton.

But no shade to MTL, I am seriously jealous of that cultural scene.
We don't always hate Vancouver proposals. I've liked every major new Van project posted on here recently with the exception of this one.
     
     
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Because someone doesn't like a building they are now "Vancouver haters"? I think your Vancouver insecurity slip is showing.

That said although I like the idea of covering up the gap between the ramps and I like the curvature of the building, I wouldn't want it built as is because I have never really liked buildings that are joined together. Just personal opinion but I have always found them to be tacky.

They need to get rid of that ugly gap but they have gone a good basic design but it just needs some refinement.
     
     
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That Vancouver proposal is tacky and unsophisticated: looks like Van needs the HP(A) Sauce like at 234 Simcoe.

The Arc on Bayview is by Kirkor--Toronto's worst architects? So if you're comparing a building in Vancouver to it, yeah not cool.

Vancouver needs to return to building modernist boxes--the city has hundreds of fantastic 1960s apartment buildings.
     
     
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Ya I find Vancouver to have a lot of ugly buildings in the skyline but lately they've gotten a lot of nice proposals (both residential and office), but that last one is just bad.
     
     
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Not sure how anyone can say this building is much worse than any of the hundred condo towers that came before it (if that's what they're saying). It's another plane jane building trying to stand out by taking a different form, like Central on Main. Myself, I would rather see a basic tower form with upgraded materials. This building is massive, so its blandness is very conspicuous. A slim tower has the advantage of tucking away its ugliness high up in the sky.

     
     
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It's better than that one thing in Calgary.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2015, 7:41 PM
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Ya I find Vancouver to have a lot of ugly buildings in the skyline but lately they've gotten a lot of nice proposals (both residential and office), but that last one is just bad.
Every city has ugly building, but I don't think Vancouver has that many really ugly buildings. There are lots of meh/mediocre buildings and towers that will go unnoticed but even they contribute to the urbanity of the cityscape.

What is has been really nice to see that in last 6 months we have started to see lots of proposals from international starchitects and clearly we are moving to the next level of architecture. It is also interesting how some of these recent projects are clearly impacting other projects, with completely revised plans being announced.

For example this site was originally to have something very generic like below. I think the new proposal is much better than just another generic tower.



One also has to know the context of this area and there are already neighbours like this that I think the new design completes very well. It's Vancouver's new Entertainment District in making.



     
     
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I know. Even the slightest decoration like balconies and they hate it.
Pretty much. The only thing people around here ever seem to have praise for is a box. Maybe it's shiny. Maybe it has cross bracing. Maybe it has real bricks at street level. Doesn't matter so long as it's got a square footprint. So long as it's a box it's "Gorgeous !" and "Spectacular !".
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Here's a new rendering of a tower for Quinpool and Robie in Halifax, near the North Common. It's unusual to see a proposal this tall there outside of the downtown area.

Nice height Halifax. Not sure about the boxes but will reserve judgement until more detailed renders are released. Looks huge, will definitely be a nice glassy addition to the skyline
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Not sure how anyone can say this building is much worse than any of the hundred condo towers that came before it (if that's what they're saying). It's another plane jane building trying to stand out by taking a different form, like Central on Main. Myself, I would rather see a basic tower form with upgraded materials. This building is massive, so its blandness is very conspicuous. A slim tower has the advantage of tucking away its ugliness high up in the sky.

Actually the building is awesome! It suits the location perfectly. It is contextual in the fact that people do not understand anything that is not a box and very tall! The view cones of Vancouver make it more dramatic for the setting of the location. It fits very well.

You well get a lot of hate because of the jealous nature people feel for Vancouver. It is obviously the best city in Canada. Certain people do not like to admit this fact! The weather the location, the mountains, the ocean, the fact some people do not think it is a coastal city.
     
     
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Actually the building is awesome! It suits the location perfectly. It is contextual in the fact that people do not understand anything that is not a box and very tall! The view cones of Vancouver make it more dramatic for the setting of the location. It fits very well.

You well get a lot of hate because of the jealous nature people feel for Vancouver. It is obviously the best city in Canada. Certain people do not like to admit this fact! The weather the location, the mountains, the ocean, the fact some people do not think it is a coastal city.
I don't hate it or love it, though it does look a little busy. Nothing to do with the city though, I honestly didn't realise it was Vancouver at first until reading a bit.

(Also Vancouver certainly does not have the best weather in Canada. Any sane person wants at least 3 months of snow in winter.)
     
     
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It's better than that one thing in Calgary.
Are you referring to the now dead proposal for 3 Eau Claire? If so then I agree it was slightly uglier.
     
     
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