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iheartphilly · #**2361** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 3:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Labridniv

^^^What you gotta think about is what is going to happen when all those places are taken. It sounds like Philadelphia is going to get denser in the years or decades or century's to come and I really wish I could live in to the 2500`s to see what they do with the place and ones around the world. By then towers like FMC will be considered historic sites or something like that.

Philadelphia is going to end up just like New York in a couple thousands years, just one huge building around the whole city that possesses all it needs and reaches over 2000 meters. Anyway, does anyone know how much those panels weigh that boxbot posted?

You can see it now in the mega cities of China. Manhattan's density pales in comparison to these Chinese mega cities.

br323206 · #**2362** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 1:40 PM**

I apologize for being off-topic in advance, but I think you guys might get a kick out of this map since we've been talking about the locations of Gotham and Metropolis...

Who knew that they were right on the Delaware Bay all along?

***I know there are actually a million different places that have been said to be the actual location of these cities. But this is just for fun***

JawKneeQuest · #**2363** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 3:27 PM**

From the Philadelphia Reddit

(won't let me embed it for some reason)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al8Vk_yHz4A&feature=youtu.be

Philly Fan · #**2364** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 3:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by JawKneeQuest

From the Philadelphia Reddit

(won't let me embed it for some reason)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al8Vk_yHz4A&feature=youtu.be

Here you go--great video, by the way!

• Video Link

iheartphilly · #**2365** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 4:13 PM**

Wondering if FMC is on a really tight deadline for the guys to be working at night.

BenKatzPhillytoParis · #**2366** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 4:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly

Wondering if FMC is on a really tight deadline for the guys to be working at night.

Supposed to be open April 2016. Seems pretty tight to me. We have a building roughly the size of the Verizon tower going up in 1 year, 9 months. Pretty amazing.

apetrella802 · #**2367** Posted **Jul 31, 2015, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly

You can see it now in the mega cities of China. Manhattan's density pales in comparison to these Chinese mega cities.

Density like chinese cities is dehumanizing. Phladelphia can experience a maybe a 50 percent increase in density or so and remain just about perfect. I doubt cities in China have a fairmount park,valley green.

philatonian · #**2368** Posted **Aug 1, 2015, 1:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

I apologize for being off-topic in advance, but I think you guys might get a kick out of this map since we've been talking about the locations of Gotham and Metropolis...

Who knew that they were right on the Delaware Bay all along?

***I know there are actually a million different places that have been said to be the actual location of these cities. But this is just for fun***

FYI I started a Fictional Skylines thread a while back. Have at it. I love this stuff.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=216825

lsksl · #**2369** Posted **Aug 1, 2015, 6:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by apetrella802

Density like chinese cities is dehumanizing. Phladelphia can experience a maybe a 50 percent increase in density or so and remain just about perfect. I doubt cities in China have a fairmount park,valley green.

That's so accurate. Even Midtown Manhattan is too much for me. I love to visit and admire its greatness but leaving my home every day to a world of chaos and hugeness would be unbearable. Everything is so artificial and surreal.
Most neighborhoods in Lower and Upper Manhattan are a lot less overwhelming though - like the Village and UWS.

BenKatzPhillytoParis · #**2370** Posted **Aug 1, 2015, 7:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by lsksl

That's so accurate. Even Midtown Manhattan is too much for me. I love to visit and admire its greatness but leaving my home every day to a world of chaos and hugeness would be unbearable. Everything is so artificial and surreal.
Most neighborhoods in Lower and Upper Manhattan are a lot less overwhelming though - like the Village and UWS.

I think 2.75-3 million could be a perfect population for Philadelphia in terms of activity, density, not being overwhelming. North Philly, lower and upper, is extremely underpopulated. So are parts of Southwest Philly. You could bring them, along with the whole of South Philly, up to a level somewhat above the current density of the thriving parts of South Philly (for example still mainly rowhomes but more multi-family/mid-rise buildings with retail below and apartments above on corners and arterials); add the lower Northwest like Tioga and Germantown to that, a density paradigm shift in the Northeast, and some more development in Center City, University City, and completely develop the Navy Yard—and I would say you could easily get to 2.75-3 million with a citywide average density still significantly below what core CC is now, let alone Manhattan. But the city would be much more vibrant and functional overall—and could support much more intensive rapid transit.

summersm343 · #**2371** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 3:51 PM**

Update from Building Philly

https://www.facebook.com/BuildingPhilly

summersm343 · #**2372** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 4:01 PM**

Found this on Flickr

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IMG_0360 by John Corbett, on Flickr[/IMG]

IMG_0358 by John Corbett, on Flickr

More photos here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jacorbett7...UhyP-vzwgF2-weLUSf-wwoUSK-weLX1d-vznJLJ/

jsbrook · #**2373** Posted **Aug 2, 2015, 6:06 PM**

I watched them install one of the glass panels yesterday. Pretty cool to watch! Building is looking good.

br323206 · #**2374** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 2:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by BenKatzPhillytoParis

I think 2.75-3 million could be a perfect population for Philadelphia in terms of activity, density, not being overwhelming. North Philly, lower and upper, is extremely underpopulated. So are parts of Southwest Philly. You could bring them, along with the whole of South Philly, up to a level somewhat above the current density of the thriving parts of South Philly (for example still mainly rowhomes but more multi-family/mid-rise buildings with retail below and apartments above on corners and arterials); add the lower Northwest like Tioga and Germantown to that, a density paradigm shift in the Northeast, and some more development in Center City, University City, and completely develop the Navy Yard—and I would say you could easily get to 2.75-3 million with a citywide average density still significantly below what core CC is now, let alone Manhattan. But the city would be much more vibrant and functional overall—and could support much more intensive rapid transit.

Yes, if the citywide average density was the same as current Center City density, we would be at about 3.7 million.

Williard Mouse · #**2375** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

Yes, if the citywide average density was the same as current Center City density, we would be at about 3.7 million.

In 1950, Philadelphia was the 3rd largest city in the US (over 2 million). In 1960, it dropped to 4th (surpassed by Los Angeles). And, in 1990, it fell to 5th place ( beaten by a consolidated Houston). Let's hope the surge in residents will propel the city back to it's former standing.

boxbot · #**2376** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 4:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Williard Mouse

In 1950, Philadelphia was the 3rd largest city in the US (over 2 million). In 1960, it dropped to 4th (surpassed by Los Angeles). And, in 1990, it fell to 5th place ( beaten by a consolidated Houston). Let's hope the surge in residents will propel the city back to it's former standing.

I guess we're off topic again, but that's not going to happen. It's not exactly a surge in growth. It's more of a stabilization with modest growth. This is, of course, a good thing, but it's only slightly delaying a drop further down the list. Houston at the #4 spot is much larger than Phila at this point and is growing at a faster rate. Phoenix and San Antonio at the #6 and #7 spots have also been growing much faster and are very close to eclipsing Phila's population.

We don't have to concern ourselves with population, however. Density, livability, quality of life, tax base are all more important, in my opinion. To that end, we are more than holding our own.

Jawnadelphia · #**2377** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 4:28 PM**

True - but those other cities are so fake.

Houston is 627.8 sq miles ... after all that late in time consolidating.
Phoenix 517.9 sq miles.
SA is 465.4 sq miles.

ssssssssssprawl. I'm sure when you're 35 miles from downtown Houston in a suburban style subdivision.... really feels like the "city."

Philly is 141.6 sq miles.

boxbot · #**2378** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallCoolOne

True - but those other cities are so fake.

Houston is 627.8 sq miles ... after all that late in time consolidating.
Phoenix 517.9 sq miles.
SA is 465.4 sq miles.

ssssssssssprawl. I'm sure when you're 35 miles from downtown Houston in a suburban style subdivision.... really feels like the "city."

Philly is 141.6 sq miles.

A fair point, which is why I suggest that the list isn't worth focusing on. It's rather arbitrary.

On the other hand, I'm sure Delaware County would let Philadelphia annex everything East of Clifton Heights if they were so inclined.

Knight Hospitaller · #**2379** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 5:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by boxbot

A fair point, which is why I suggest that the list isn't worth focusing on. It's rather arbitrary.

On the other hand, I'm sure Delaware County would let Philadelphia annex everything East of Clifton Heights if they were so inclined.

We are indeed WAY off topic, but I second the motion. I doubt Delco could give it away, but we can only dream of Greater Philadelphia extending to Township Line and the bonnie banks of Darby Creek.

thisisforreal · #**2380** Posted **Aug 3, 2015, 7:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Williard Mouse

In 1950, Philadelphia was the 3rd largest city in the US (over 2 million). In 1960, it dropped to 4th (surpassed by Los Angeles). And, in 1990, it fell to 5th place ( beaten by a consolidated Houston). Let's hope the surge in residents will propel the city back to it's former standing.

For those of us here that are really old, we can remember the good ole' days when even Northern Liberties was one of the 10 biggest cities in America.