Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed - Page 433

Kisai · #**8641** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 11:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner

Even on this forum, the only who sees this, seems to be me.

Unless you have insider-information, and have been talking to people actually working on it, your speculation is as good as anyone pulling a random answer out of their —.

Find proof, then we have a reason to go get mad over it. The Plebiscite is over, any more "Translink is wasting money, oh boo hoos, give Jordan Bateman a medal for giving the middle finger to Metro Vancouver" ideas will have to wait for the next hare-brained idea from our mayors.

WarrenC12 · #**8642** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 3:46 PM**

I think it's obvious there's a problem, but why nobody is talking could be entirely anybody's guess.

The contract states the EGRT team is on the hook for any cost overruns, correct? What about schedule overruns? Are their penalties for delays? It makes sense that they wouldn't admit any delays until the last possible minute.

As long as the contract is fixed bid, and there's a financial penalty for late delivery (per month or whatever), I could honestly not care less.

CanSpice · #**8643** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 4:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner

I know what the real problem is .. and it is not engineering and it is not the TBM technology.

The engineers and the TBM can finish the job in 3 to 4 months.

What is an issue is the unanticipated surface subsidence. The Polis are so afraid of any public bad press .. that they have willingly delayed the project by 6 months now and counting. That is 6 months at (my calculation) 10 million minimum a month in costs.

Do you have a source for these numbers?

Also, would you rather the engineers and the TBM just "damn the sinkholes, full speed ahead" or should they slow down and get things right? It seems to me that you're complaining about sinkholes appearing, and when they slow down to try to mitigate that problem, you're complaining about them going too slow.

Well, maybe there's a reason nobody here takes your complaints seriously.

Jimbo604 · #**8644** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 9:24 PM**

blah blah blah... they're supposed to start drillin' again next Friday (July 31st), aren't they??

Olden Retreiver · #**8645** Posted **Jul 24, 2015, 10:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jimbo604

blah blah blah... they're supposed to start drillin' again next Friday (July 31st), aren't they??

Before Modnight Friday July 31st!

dpogue · #**8646** Posted **Jul 25, 2015, 10:16 PM**

They had a 2-car Mark I train parked at Lougheed side platform when I was there this morning.

Ridgerunner · #**8647** Posted **Jul 27, 2015, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

Do you have a source for these numbers?

Also, would you rather the engineers and the TBM just "damn the sinkholes, full speed ahead" or should they slow down and get things right? It seems to me that you're complaining about sinkholes appearing, and when they slow down to try to mitigate that problem, you're complaining about them going too slow.

Well, maybe there's a reason nobody here takes your complaints seriously.

Perhaps some situations cannot be "managed". The Polis are delaying the "full speed ahead" - which is what it would take to finish this.

They are afraid of public complaints. But sometimes, you have to break some eggs to make an omelette. That is the situation here.

In the meantime, delays upon delays. AT midnight on July 31 (three and one half days from now) "late july" will be over.

Then we can look forward to the next slice of PR BS.

Till later

Jimbo604 · #**8648** Posted **Jul 27, 2015, 8:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Olden Retreiver

Before Modnight Friday July 31st!

Yay! Keep watching the tunnel exit for the parade of dump trucks that happens when they are actually drilling:
Tunnel Exit web cam (you have to switch the top center "View" drop down to "North Portal Construction"

Does anyone have a source document for the July 31st re-startup date?

queetz@home · #**8649** Posted **Jul 29, 2015, 4:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Yay! Keep watching the tunnel exit for the parade of dump trucks that happens when they are actually drilling:
Tunnel Exit web cam (you have to switch the top center "View" drop down to "North Portal Construction"

Does anyone have a source document for the July 31st re-startup date?

I doubt they would start on a Friday (unless they are now on a 24/7 schedule) so if they haven't started boring already, then earliest would be next week....

Ridgerunner · #**8650** Posted **Jul 29, 2015, 6:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by queetz@home

I doubt they would start on a Friday (unless they are now on a 24/7 schedule) so if they haven't started boring already, then earliest would be next week....

Or ... the week after that ..

Or ... the month after next

The Obsessed One

officedweller · #**8651** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 12:02 AM**

Don't think these were posted - from TransBC Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/

Ridgerunner · #**8652** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 11:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Yay! Keep watching the tunnel exit for the parade of dump trucks that happens when they are actually drilling:
Tunnel Exit web cam (you have to switch the top center "View" drop down to "North Portal Construction"

Does anyone have a source document for the July 31st re-startup date?

If you increase the number of pics from 10 to 100, you get a series of 96 pics at 15 minute intervals that go back 24 hours.

When you rapidly scroll all 96 pics, it is like watching a movie - sort of.

The only thing moving as of July 30th (the 'ol late July) is what has been moving for the last 6 months.

The only thing that moves on the site are the shadows.

There are no people there, not even a watchman some days.

I repeat ... something is rotten in the state of TBM.

Jimbo604 · #**8653** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 3:16 PM**

Source: Evergreen line webcam - North Portal Construction View

Behold.. there is someone at the end at the conveyer belt this morning. Perhaps they were just enjoying the view??

Kisai · #**8654** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Source: Evergreen line webcam - North Portal Construction View

Behold.. there is someone at the end at the conveyer belt this morning. Perhaps they were just enjoying the view??

Oh and there was a door open

Please. If using the construction photo's is the only evidence that "nothing is happening" then you're witch-hunting.

Ridgerunner · #**8655** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 10:53 PM**

The Lords on high at Translink have sent out an email on the tunnel

1) In preparation for the arrival of the tunnel boring machine (TBM), crews are continuing to strengthen the soil below the roadway from the surface of Clarke Road just south of Robinson Street. In early August, crews will be shifting the construction site from the east side to the west side of the roadway

Okay ... that should be the last of the "late July" comments

2) The subsurface ground improvement work will be ongoing until late summer. Crews are continuing to inject cement grout into the ground approximately 40 metres below the surface.

okay ... late summer means middle of September, just poli code for "that is the least amount of time it will take.

and finally ...

3) These lane closures will allow crews to continue injecting cement grout (jet grouting) from the surface to strengthen soils in front of the TBM to prepare for the required maintenance and cutterhead tool change this fall.

Okay ... do you read this the same way that I do. The maintenance on the TBM is NOT taking place now. It will only start once the grouting is finished by "late summer".

And who knows how long the maintenance will last?

Put it all together and November 1 as a start date for more tunneling starts to sound more and more reasonable.

Well ... at least they have a plan ... whatever it really is.

officedweller · #**8656** Posted **Jul 30, 2015, 11:03 PM**

From Yellow Fever at SSC posted July 29:

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