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Old Posted Jul 19, 2015, 2:54 PM
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2015, 4:09 PM
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Zoning is very strict un those old neighborhoods surrounding downtown, no high rises are permitted . The city wants to preserve the scale or the present streetscape. High rises are only permitted in Ville-Marie (downtown) and some parts of the southwest (Griffintown).

Le Plateau is my neighborhood. I know every corners of it and I can assure you that there is almost no room left to build. They are now down to closing the few remaining gas station to build lucrative condos. Building high rises in Le Plateau is nearly impossible. Triplexes are héritage buildings, very much loved by Montrealers. This is not Vancouver.
     
     
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Zoning is very strict un those old neighborhoods surrounding downtown, no high rises are permitted . The city wants to preserve the scale or the present streetscape. High rises are only permitted in Ville-Marie (downtown) and some parts of the southwest (Griffintown).

Le Plateau is my neighborhood. I know every corners of it and I can assure you that there is almost no room left to build. They are now down to closing the few remaining gas station to build lucrative condos. Building high rises in Le Plateau is nearly impossible. Triplexes are héritage buildings, very much loved by Montrealers. This is not Vancouver.
There was plenty of mid 20th century infill, and there's a bunch of highrises by the mountain, so it's not 100% heritage triplexes. I wasn't talking about tearing down the whole thing either, a couple of towers aren't going to destroy a neighbourhood that dense, they'll just add a bit more variety to living options.

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Beedok, I don't think you understand, not only are highrises not permitted in the plateau, they are very much unwanted. There are a few towers built in the neighbourhood since the 70's, but they are all regarded as serious mistakes in planning.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2015, 5:10 PM
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Beedok, I don't think you understand, not only are highrises not permitted in the plateau, they are very much unwanted. There are a few towers built in the neighbourhood since the 70's, but they are all regarded as serious mistakes in planning.
Seems like a bit of a mistake to me. A couple of highrises over that large of an area just provides a slight increase in density. I can see dozens having a potentially negative effect (especially if they're far from the metro), but I don't get how a sprinkling could be anything but positive. People have different taste though, so I guess I can't expect a perfect neighbourhood.
     
     
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What I like about Picasso is that it's so much different from all the other blue glass condos going up in Toronto.
     
     
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^ I agree. It's a breath of fresh air in a sea of blue glass monotony.
     
     
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Toronto's got it going on in both of those photos. Really amazing. I love how colourful the lights in the downtown skyline have become in the last 10 years. It's something that I envy greatly, given Hamilton's 70's brick and concrete skyline.
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Seems like a bit of a mistake to me. A couple of highrises over that large of an area just provides a slight increase in density. I can see dozens having a potentially negative effect (especially if they're far from the metro), but I don't get how a sprinkling could be anything but positive. People have different taste though, so I guess I can't expect a perfect neighbourhood.
I think you'll find yours3lf one of the few that feels throwing a bunch of high rises into an established low rise community somehow would improve it.

View of what exactly? Nothing worth seeing being 15 storeys in the air. Well, maybe a roofer might find something.
     
     
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I think you'll find yours3lf one of the few that feels throwing a bunch of high rises into an established low rise community somehow would improve it.

View of what exactly? Nothing worth seeing being 15 storeys in the air. Well, maybe a roofer might find something.
With 100k people five or six 12-20 floor buildings aren't going to do anything but add a bit more people. More people is good for streets when it's a dense walking and transit centred community.

As for a view of what, a view of everything. The city. The streets. The next street over. The weather. The mountain. You can't see anything from 3 floors up unless you like spying on your neighbours. Once you get above the height of trees and most buildings then you can look out at the view without feeling like you're intruding on anyone's privacy and happily watch as storms roll by, or just enjoy the whole of the city rather than a single street.

(Also with shrinking household sizes you've got to do something to preserve the density, and a high rise has the least impact on the heritage architecture compared with levelling whole blocks to add slightly taller mid rises. Le Plateau's been shrinking in all but 1 census for the last 50 years.)

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Old Posted Jul 21, 2015, 3:30 AM
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^the Plateau is already dense enough though. One of the densest neighborhoods in Canada if I'm not mistaken.
     
     
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^ I think I remember seeing something saying that Parc X was the densest neighbourhood in Canada. Of course, methodology problems make calling a place THE densest hard. (one of the densest, easy).
     
     
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