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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 9:05 PM
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wow, so incredibly lame they knocked down that wonderful old building on the corner. ottawa is just kamikaze on its heritage commercial buildings, very sad.
Agreed, I wish they kept the original Ogilvy's building.


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Agreed, I wish they kept the original Ogilvy's building.

You are right that the Ogilvy building should had not been demolished. All it needed was a good renovation inside. To me, old buildings which have nice bricks look much nicer than some of the buildings which they construct nowadays. It was not a bad looking building at all. It just needed to be renovated inside. At least, they kept the old bricks.

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Old Posted Jun 20, 2015, 6:43 AM
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The new pedestrian bridge is really frickin' wide.
The new bridge is the same width as the old one. It was always much wider than the western bridge, but it used to have a curved roof. The square roof gives the appearance that its wider, but if you're at ground level, the last time I was there, the indoor metal railings in front of the windows were still in place at the edges of the structre, likely as a safety barrier until the new windows are installed.




As for everyone who is suddenly lamenting the demolition of the Ogilvy building, please actually read about the project.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2015, 6:43 AM
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Wish they extended the roof top garden area over on to the extension. Or at least make it a green roof
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2015, 8:19 PM
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That plywood mega-wall separating Bazille from the construction porta-pack is hilarious. I wonder how it would feel being a contractor building that temporary structure purely for the benefit of the restaurant patron's view. The aerial is really cool. The big art wall on Rideau is actually pretty awesome, one of those rare times when the final result is even cooler than the renders. The Ogilvy facade brick is looking great from the air, and even better from ground level as I drove by today. The new pedestrian bridge is really frickin' wide. I drove under it today and it looked huge, but it looks even wider from above. I seem to recall it will contain some retail GLA. The City, Cadillac Fairview, and The Bay all have stakes on the bridge, so I wonder who will control the leasing of this GLA.
The City bought out there share by paying CF $400,000 and waving air right fees and others. This way, the City won't have to pay the cost of the renovations, maintenance or the cost of demolition at the end of the initial 50 year deal (1983-2033).

I assume CF might have also made some sort of deal with HBC.

As for the size, as someone mentioned, the top used to be curved. The deck of the bridge also had a kind of angle/curve.


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New Rideau Street plan would remove one pedestrian bridge, replace the other


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The latest twist in the dramatic reimagining of Rideau Street is a plan to remove one of two aging pedestrian overpasses and replace the other with a sleek new walkway in the sky.

The Freiman Bridge was built in the early 1980s as a way to connect the Mackenzie King Bridge and the Transitway to the ByWard Market area via the shopping mall.

The city owns the bridge, but the costs for construction, use and maintenance over the years have been split between the city, Hudson’s Bay Company and Cadillac Fairview Corp., which owns the mall, as part of a 50-year agreement.

Around the same time, HBC and the mall’s previous owner built a second, smaller bridge west of the Freiman Bridge, but the city bears no responsibility for it.

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Now, according to a report slated for discussion at next week’s finance committee meeting, Cadillac Fairview has come up with a $3-million plan to refurbish the Freiman Bridge as part of its $360-million mall makeover that’s currently underway.

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The new walkway would match the mall’s shiny new façade and would likely be completed later this year or early next.

The city is pleased with the plan because it would complement the objectives of the Rideau Street streetscaping initiative and free Ottawa taxpayers of future responsibility for the maintenance, repair and future demolition of the current bridge.

But there’s a catch: The city would pay Cadillac Fairview $400,000 — the estimated net value, in today’s cash, of future operating and capital costs — and waive an estimated $50,000 in encroachment fees for use of the Rideau Street right-of-way during the bridge replacement.

The city would also give the company a break on air rights — the leasing of the air above city property — to the tune of $335,000.

As for the second pedestrian overpass — the one closer to the intersection of Rideau and Sussex — it would be removed completely.

“It’s going to look a lot better than it does today,” said Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury.

The enclosed, unpainted metal structure that’s currently there will be replaced with a glassy walkway, in keeping with the mall’s updated look.

The city anticipates north-south pedestrian traffic flow between the Mackenzie King Bridge and the ByWard Market will shift significantly once the Confederation line station on Rideau Street opens, while, at the same time, the mall’s centre of gravity is also shifting eastward as part its expansion.

All of these factors combined made the second bridge obsolete, Fleury said.

The report does not include a rationale for how the city reached the $400,000 figure, but Fleury said Tuesday that amount is less than the cost of demolishing one of the bridges and removes any future financial responsibility.

Fleury said he’s always been in favour of removing both bridges, but the mall and HBC pushed to keep one of the connections.

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Agreed.... It's a dead subject now. "Should've-Would've-Could've". The interior needed an insane amount of work done, not to mention a whole new 5th floor room and bracing since the roof had collapsed into the building due to the weight... The 5th floor stank and was full of pigeons. It was quite an experience to have going up there. I'm grateful, but we have Robinson to blame for the building starting to go downhill. They were a faltering business who bought a faltering business. Ogilvy's was made an offer they couldn't refuse and Robinson tanked slowly after. Had someone "really" cared about this building, they would've bought it in 1993 after they did an upgrade to the building to make it useable again. Instead, no one cared, and then Rideau/Viking bought it with the sole intent to demolish it. Luckily our half witted council of the time put somewhat of a Heritage Designation on it. Its better then nothing... The intent would've been to keep the whole 3 floors all the way thru, but once it was discovered that the front half "1906" wasn't original anymore, it was decided to dismantle the 1916 addition to replicate the 1906 original facade on a rebuild. I must be their toughest critic after sinking years into research and preservation for this building and I'm pleased with the results so far. To see the building come back to the ORIGINAL vision of Charles Ogilvy is quite remarkable. So much care and effort has gone into bringing his original vision back to life thru the help of many gifted people. Even the cast iron medallion bearing his initials will be redone and remounted. The original was trashed along with the 1906 facade somewhere in the mid-1940s.

Let's stop beating the dead fish and let the "should've kept it" thing go. Yes it would've been cool, but unlike Caplans where new brick was used to replicate the original 1860's-1870s facades, here we have nicely preserved brick being used to bring back someone's former GRAND vision of how HE wanted to present HIS company to Ottawa's residents 109 years ago. Charles & Noffke created something magical. This is a fantastic tribute to them. It must've done well originally as the company existed as itself in name for 99 years.

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The new bridge is the same width as the old one. It was always much wider than the western bridge, but it used to have a curved roof. The square roof gives the appearance that its wider, but if you're at ground level, the last time I was there, the indoor metal railings in front of the windows were still in place at the edges of the structre, likely as a safety barrier until the new windows are installed.




As for everyone who is suddenly lamenting the demolition of the Ogilvy building, please actually read about the project.
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2015, 9:38 PM
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Cool Pedestrian bridges and Ogilvy building

Perhaps one pedestrian bridge to go to the Bay from the Rideau Centre is enough. There is really no need for two bridges. The Freiman bridge did need to be renovated. It was looking runned down. I am sure that it will look really nice once they put the shiny glass to it.

I think that you are right, the Ogilvy building was beyond renovation. After the building has been abandoned for so many years, it just fell apart. Look in the bright side, at least the old bricks are being reused for the new a Rideau centre expansion.

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Old Posted Jun 21, 2015, 11:19 PM
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Agreed.... It's a dead subject now. "Should've-Would've-Could've". The interior needed an insane amount of work done, not to mention a whole new 5th floor room and bracing since the roof had collapsed into the building due to the weight... The 5th floor stank and was full of pigeons. It was quite an experience to have going up there. I'm grateful, but we have Robinson to blame for the building starting to go downhill. They were a faltering business who bought a faltering business. Ogilvy's was made an offer they couldn't refuse and Robinson tanked slowly after. Had someone "really" cared about this building, they would've bought it in 1993 after they did an upgrade to the building to make it useable again. Instead, no one cared, and then Rideau/Viking bought it with the sole intent to demolish it. Luckily our half witted council of the time put somewhat of a Heritage Designation on it. Its better then nothing... The intent would've been to keep the whole 3 floors all the way thru, but once it was discovered that the front half "1906" wasn't original anymore, it was decided to dismantle the 1916 addition to replicate the 1906 original facade on a rebuild. I must be their toughest critic after sinking years into research and preservation for this building and I'm pleased with the results so far. To see the building come back to the ORIGINAL vision of Charles Ogilvy is quite remarkable. So much care and effort has gone into bringing his original vision back to life thru the help of many gifted people. Even the cast iron medallion bearing his initials will be redone and remounted. The original was trashed along with the 1906 facade somewhere in the mid-1940s.

Let's stop beating the dead fish and let the "should've kept it" thing go. Yes it would've been cool, but unlike Caplans where new brick was used to replicate the original 1860's-1870s facades, here we have nicely preserved brick being used to bring back someone's former GRAND vision of how HE wanted to present HIS company to Ottawa's residents 109 years ago. Charles & Noffke created something magical. This is a fantastic tribute to them. It must've done well originally as the company existed as itself in name for 99 years.
Agreed. Whatever happened, the building was not worthy of repair. Cadillac Fairview did what was right. They conserved the look of that corner, preserved a bit of history and they are to be commended.
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Wish they extended the roof top garden area over on to the extension. Or at least make it a green roof
Fully agree with you. Would be much nicer and cooler.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2015, 8:02 PM
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Is the existing rooftop terrace to remain after expansion is completed?
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2015, 2:09 AM
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I have not heard anything about the roof terrace disappearing. I think that it will still stay there, when the expansion is finished. We still do not know what will the former cinemas at the Rideau centre will become in the future. I know, for sure, that it definitely will not be movie theatres. If they decide to put a restaurant on the top floor where the cinemas once stood, a roof terrace will be nice especially in the summertime. People in the summertime usually want to eat outside. The roof terrace at the Rideau Centre is not that small.
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Rooftop terrace is staying. With the addition of Nordstrom's restaurant terrace and, as we can see on gmarshall's pic on the previous page, the expansion has doors opening to the (slightly expanded) terrace. Question is, will they re-do the terrace. I certainly hope so; it's way to cluttered as is. No rhyme or reason.

Would love to see the Convention Centre and Westin opening up to the terrace also.
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Rooftop terrace is staying. With the addition of Nordstrom's restaurant terrace and, as we can see on gmarshall's pic on the previous page, the expansion has doors opening to the (slightly expanded) terrace. Question is, will they re-do the terrace. I certainly hope so; it's way to cluttered as is. No rhyme or reason.

Would love to see the Convention Centre and Westin opening up to the terrace also.
That will be good, because tourists would have a good view of what downtown Ottawa looks like. They will even see a lovely view of the Parliament buildings.

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The Rideau Centre has a new website. http://rideaucentre.com
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The Rideau Centre has a new website. http://rideaucentre.com
I googled the rideaucentre.com and it now looks different. Cadillac Fairview listed all the shops in alphabetical order. The main problem with the Rideau Centre's new website is ,whenever; I put in Rideau Centre expansion I cannot find shops opening soon and now opened. I will like to know which shops are opening in the Rideau centre and exactly where are they going to be located.

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It's been standardized along with the other malls owned by Cadillac Fairview. You can change the mall in the top corner too.

I'm sure they haven't had the chance to port over all the old stuff from the old to the new... Give it time. I'm sure it'll be added eventually.

At least you know it'll be ready in August 2016. Maybe now it'll all be a surprise

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I googled the rideaucentre.com and it now looks different. Cadillac Fairview listed all the shops in alphabetical order. The main problem with the Rideau Centre's new website is ,whenever; I put in Rideau Centre expansion I cannot find shops opening soon and now opened. I will like to know which shops are opening in the Rideau centre and exactly where are they going to be located.

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I still do not know what the former cinemas are going to become. I DEFINITELY know, for sure; that there will not be movie theatres again. Maybe the GoodLife fitness will relocate up there. They better hurry up, if the Rideau centre expansion is supposed to open in August of next year.
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I'm so glad to see that I can come back from a week in Montreal and find Ottawa spinning in the same circles.

JUST BECAUSE THE EXPANSION OPENS ON AUGUT 1, 2016 DOESN'T MEAN EVERY STORE IN THE ENTIRE BULDING WILL BE FILLED THAT DAY.
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I'm so glad to see that I can come back from a week in Montreal and find Ottawa spinning in the same circles.

JUST BECAUSE THE EXPANSION OPENS ON AUGUT 1, 2016 DOESN'T MEAN EVERY STORE IN THE ENTIRE BULDING WILL BE FILLED THAT DAY.
You are absolutely right. The Rideau centre is a big mall. It definitely will be larger, once they put the expansion. The LRT station, for sure; will not be ready until 2018. The construction workers use the former cinema space for temporary offices, meetings, and lunch breaks. I probably suspect that once the expansion is finished, the manager will come up with a permanent lease for the former cinemas.

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Simons looking to defy retail industry woes with Canadian expansion plans

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The Canadian Press, Montreal Gazette 07.11.2015

One of Canada’s oldest family-owned retailers is hoping to defy industry woes by launching an expansion that could extend the Simons brand across Canada.

The 175-year-old company based in Quebec City will open its ninth Quebec store in Gatineau next month before entering the British Columbia and Ontario markets and expanding its presence in Alberta.

The fashion retailer is spending up to $200 million over the next four years to open eight stores. It says the move is intended to boost its annual sales base of more than $350 million.

An outlet will open this fall in West Vancouver, followed by openings next year in Mississauga, Ont., and Ottawa. A second Edmonton store and a new one in Calgary will be added in 2017, and two more stores are expected to open in the Toronto suburb of Scarborough in 2018 and at the Yorkdale Shopping Centre in 2019.

Atlantic Canada, the Prairies or Winnipeg could join the list as more stores are added to reach a maximum of 25 to 30 stores, says CEO Peter Simons.

But Simons says he doesn’t feel any pressure to make hasty moves.

Peter Simons, CEO of La Maison Simons, poses for pictures in its downtown location in Montreal on Tuesday, June 16, 2015. Founded by John Simons in Quebec City in 1840, Simons is undergoing expansion in several locations across Canada. The company remains a family owned business, run by the 5th generation, brothers Peter and Richard Simons.

“You don’t think in next-quarter increments when you’re a private company of five generations,” he said from Quebec City. “You think in 25-year increments.”

Missing from the Simons national expansion plans is downtown Toronto, one of Canada’s toughest retail markets. Simons made a pitch to enter the Eaton Centre but that didn’t materialize. Meanwhile, U.S. retailer Nordstrom will open next year at the old Sears location in the Eaton Centre.

Retail analyst Randy Harris of Trendex believes Simons’ gradual expansion will make it a “national powerhouse” in the Canadian apparel market.

“A lot of retailers, while they’re worrying about Nordstrom and Saks, have got to be equally worried about Simons,” Harris said.

He said Simons’ mid-market pricing and strong private label offering will resonate with shoppers looking for something new. In addition to clothes, Simons sells some home goods and is introducing shoes and a new restaurant concept called Eve. But unlike department stores, it doesn’t sell cosmetics or “hard goods” like appliances and furniture.

Simons says he and his brother are keenly aware of the risks — particularly in trying to build upon its success in Quebec and spread it to English Canada while juggling the logistics of operating across the country.

Few family-run companies survive the third generation, let alone the fifth, he said.

“Sure, when your name’s on the door and it goes badly, that sticks to you, so we’re nervous.”

The Canadian fashion retail industry has seen its share of casualties with brands such as Mexx, Smart Set and Jacob closing or reducing their operations.

In addition to facing an influx of foreign competitors, the sector is undergoing big change as people increasingly shop online. Simons offers online shopping.

Independent retail analyst Brynn Winegard said Simons’ understanding of the Canadian consumer may give it a leg up over American retailers.

But she said Simons should have first focused on beefing up its omni-channel offering — an industry term referring to the use of stores, its website, mobile apps and any other possible ways to shop — then add stores close to its base in Quebec before expanding further afield.

“We’ve seen a lot of failures in the retail space in the last little while,” she said. “The ones that have had good success really come to life in their online and non bricks-and-mortar space.”

Simons said he expects the company’s online sales — which make up less than 10 per cent of its total sales — will grow. But he adds that it won’t trump the experience of receiving customer service in person.

“There’s still going to be this almost primordial desire for human contact, a quality human contact,” he said.

As a relatively unknown brand outside Quebec, Simons said he knows the first challenge will be marketing — specifically, to develop a relationship with shoppers so they keep returning after the initial rush wears off.

It has selected ad agency Cossette to build brand awareness and pique people’s curiosity.

“I’m not trying to win their minds or their wallets. I’d like to win their hearts.”

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