YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 380

Klazu · #**7581** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cage

Aircraft that can do the mission include: newer 777, 787, 340-300/500/600, 350, 380. The 380 is too big an airplane for the mission. There is no availability of 787 and newer 777 and 350. The 340 is not economical, but is available.

AerCap seems to have a nice fleet of delivered Dreamliners for lease:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AerCap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...and_deliveries

Quite a airplane portfolio for that matter!

Klazu · #**7582** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 4:57 AM**

Not the greatest source for this, but I haven't noticed it being mentioned that Emirates is bumping Seattle to twice daily. Quite a nod for Seattle.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/07/e...vice-to-dubai/

urbancanadian · #**7583** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 5:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Not the greatest source for this, but I haven't noticed it being mentioned that Emirates is bumping Seattle to twice daily. Quite a nod for Seattle.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/07/e...vice-to-dubai/

I've actually been hearing radio ads from Emirates lately, advertising the route. They mentioned twice-daily flights to Dubai "and beyond". Thought it was interesting.

Hourglass · #**7584** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 8:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

in response to the North-South Taxiway

source: YVR

Is this still being planned? Wasn't sure as things have been quiet.

This taxiway is really needed, particularly if they build the new terminal to the east of the current ITB. International flights currently waste a lot of time and fuel taxiing around the domestic terminal to get to the south runway, particularly if they're taking off to the west.

trofirhen · #**7585** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 9:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Not the greatest source for this, but I haven't noticed it being mentioned that Emirates is bumping Seattle to twice daily. Quite a nod for Seattle.

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/07/e...vice-to-dubai/

What if any might be the long-term projected outcomes of this, regarding competition between YVR and SEA-TAC for growth in pax# and destinations?

Valley_Refugee · #**7586** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 1:12 PM**

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Air Canada owns the intellectual property rights to all of PWA Corp past airlines including:
- Canadian Airlines
- PWA and Pacific Western Airlines
- Canadian Pacific and CP Air
- Wardair
- Canadian Regional

Yes, yes, I'm well aware we had Canadian Airlines and that Air Canada owns the IP. I mused about Canadian Airways or perhaps a different variant. I'm sure AC would still challenge it in any event.

vanlaw · #**7587** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 3:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yes, like most 744 fleets they would be starting to get a bit tired.

I still wouldn't be surprised if the go double daily 772 (ie increase from 12 to 14 weekly). Especially with VS out of the picture.

Yes, the economy product on the BA 744 is pretty tired. The infotainment system is fairly outdated. Although I wouldn't say the product is any worse than the A340 LH flies on the YVR-FRA route, which is what I am usually on to Europe (I haven't been on the LH 747). The business class on the BA 744 looks not too bad though.

I was on the BA flight home last night. It is too bad the 744 is being phased out, although totally understandable. It is such a smooth ride. Take off is super smooth, and I love seeing those huge wings swaying so gracefully. It's definitely like a ride a huge Cadillac.

A couple of pics from LHR and on landing at YVR (love that wing!) The first pic from LHR has the ET 787 and the SQ A380 in it. Also pics of the BA and QF A380's. What airline is the plane beside the SQ A380?

Klazu · #**7588** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 3:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by vanlaw

What airline is the plane beside the SQ A380?

South African Airways

s211 · #**7589** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 3:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

in response to the North-South Taxiway

source: YVR

Interesting. If I read correctly, this plan does not require lowering the roads.

Cage · #**7590** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 3:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

AerCap seems to have a nice fleet of delivered Dreamliners for lease:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AerCap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...and_deliveries

Quite a airplane portfolio for that matter!

The aercap 787s are all committed to operators such as Norwegian, Ethiopian, Thai, etc.

Also Aer Cap has a great business in buying early delivery slots when the airframe is announced and then selling them for a profit prior to aircraft build. QF could access this market but it's getting quite expensive on the open market.

AC got a great deal on their 787s because they had to weather the production delays and significant performance degradation from the promised numbers in the marketing materials. I know AC is quite happy with getting 7 77W well below cost as compensation, plus Ac got a great deal on the 787 as launch customer. QF will not get either of these deals, so any attempt to either buy 787 or 77w will be at materially higher capital costs.

vanlaw · #**7591** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

South African Airways

Ah...of course!

Johnny Aussie · #**7592** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 9:29 PM**

Always a good read to see how the other side sees it (in this case my side).

And also reading how this new route is huge news for BNE, Queensland and Australia.

http://www.bne.com.au/news/new-inter...qld-and-canada

I used to fly AC a lot but now not very often so the chances of me using this new flight is remote. But at least yet another Star Alliance option from MEL to YVR with a bit of Virgin Australia for the domestic portion. MEL-SYD-YVR is actually 12 miles shorter than MEL-BNE-YVR.... Both require a terminal change though... Why I now prefer NZ via AKL and I find NZ service better than AC now.

Klazu · #**7593** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 9:48 PM**

They seem to be just as happy with the connection on Brisbane end. Great news and they expect 12 000 new Canadian travelers to Australia thanks to this connection on top of the current annual figure of 140 000. That's nice.

Connections wise, will Brisbane provide a better connection for Canadians traveling to Perth and Adelaide than Sydney?

Cage · #**7594** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 10:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Connections wise, will Brisbane provide a better connection for Canadians traveling to Perth and Adelaide than Sydney?

Unfortunately, no the connection process is not easier in BNE compared to SYD.

The problem with Australian connections is the propensity to have separate International and Domestic terminals. In SYD this adds at least 20-30 minutes and a lot of walking bus and walking to the connection.

BNE connections will be less cumbersome simply because the terminals are smaller, but all pax will still have to walk -> Bus -> walk.

Of major Australian airports (SYD, MEL, ADL, PER, BNE, CNS) only MEL and ADL have connected terminals.

hollywoodnorth · #**7595** Posted **Jul 9, 2015, 10:33 PM**

Big backups on routes to YVR due to outlet mall grand opening

http://www.news1130.com/2015/07/09/t...grand-opening/

oh ya thats good .....

Klazu · #**7596** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 12:50 AM**

Seems that all of Richmond is there. And nobody took the Skytrain.

casper · #**7597** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 1:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cage

Unfortunately, no the connection process is not easier in BNE compared to SYD.

The problem with Australian connections is the propensity to have separate International and Domestic terminals. In SYD this adds at least 20-30 minutes and a lot of walking bus and walking to the connection.

BNE connections will be less cumbersome simply because the terminals are smaller, but all pax will still have to walk -> Bus -> walk.

Of major Australian airports (SYD, MEL, ADL, PER, BNE, CNS) only MEL and ADL have connected terminals.

Not certain if it is still the case. I have done United MEL to SYD connecting onto United back to LAX. The MEL to SYD flight is a short hop for a 747, you also clear Australian exit passport control in MEL. I believe United only has rights to carry connecting passengers on the flight.

Johnny Aussie · #**7598** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 2:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by casper

Not certain if it is still the case. I have done United MEL to SYD connecting onto United back to LAX. The MEL to SYD flight is a short hop for a 747, you also clear Australian exit passport control in MEL. I believe United only has rights to carry connecting passengers on the flight.

MEL-LAX is now daily nonstop on UA's brand new 787-900.... I will be on one in just a matter of weeks

When the flight went via SYD, even though you didn't have to go through immigration or customs, you still had to disembark in SYD and go through security again. The LAX and SFO flights met up in SYD and the MEL pax amalgamated so only one 744 went through to MEL. The other 744 sat on the ground in SYD and waited for the one from MEL to come back.

The stop in SYD although not a big deal, it is nice to bypass that now.

casper · #**7599** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 5:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

What if any might be the long-term projected outcomes of this, regarding competition between YVR and SEA-TAC for growth in pax# and destinations?

Not certain if it is true. I have been told one of the key drivers for the flight is cargo. There is a certain airline in Dubai that has a very large fleet of Boeing aircraft and many of the spares need to travel by air cargo out of Seattle. Doing two 777 instead of one A380 provides more cargo capacity.

About two months ago I arrived in Seattle from Paris at the same time as the Dubai flight arrived. What a poor airport experience. There were also some wide body flights from Asia coming in at the same time. No room at immigration, we were held in the upper walkway coming off the jet bridges for a good 30 minutes before we could even get into the queue for immigration. International baggage handling was also over crowded. To get on to the connecting Alaska gates to Victoria (and Vancouver) you need to take two separate people movers. Vancouver provides for a much better experience.

Waders · #**7600** Posted **Jul 10, 2015, 5:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

Seems that all of Richmond is there. And nobody took the Skytrain.

Sign

The traffic jam that caused flight delays.

Source: CTV News