YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Gordon]

Air Canada's YVR Brisbane service starts next June year roune Non Stop.

Does nay one have any idea what the next major construction project will be?

When will all the A\B connector gates be in use? Gates B 13,27&28 are never used.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

we had canadian airlines before air canada swallowed them up

Air Canada owns the intellectual property rights to all of PWA Corp past airlines including:
- Canadian Airlines
- PWA and Pacific Western Airlines
- Canadian Pacific and CP Air
- Wardair
- Canadian Regional

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Gordon

Does nay one have any idea what the next major construction project will be?

International concourse hammerhead should be the next major terminal project. The hammerhead will add another 6-10 gates can complete the international terminal building.

Also, there is supposed to be a north south taxiway that will go over top Grant McConachie Way, Sky Train, and Miller Road. This taxway will be perpendicular to and beside the two AC hangars (the original AC hangar on the southside and the former CP hangar on the north side.

[Cage]

YVR Airport's turn at the podium

Richmond, BC (July 8, 2015): Today, Air Canada announced non-stop service between Brisbane International Airport (BNE) and Vancouver International Airport (YVR). Set to begin flying three-times weekly starting June 17, 2016, the direct service is the only year-round, non-stop flight between Canada and Brisbane—a major business hub and a gateway to Australia’s renowned tourism region.

“Air Canada is our long-time anchor partner and we value their commitment to developing a West Coast hub at YVR,” said Craig Richmond, President & CEO, Vancouver Airport Authority. “This service is another milestone in our vision of becoming a world-class hub airport and further strengthens the already excellent relationship and mutual admiration between Canada and Australia."

Air Canada is a key carrier between Australia and Vancouver, currently operating daily service to Sydney from YVR using Boeing 777 aircraft. This new non-stop service will use the game changing Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft to connect directly to Brisbane. As Australia’s third most-populous city, Brisbane is the capital city of Queensland providing direct access to Australia’s Gold Coast and famed Great Barrier Reef.

“YVR welcomes this new service and thousands of excited travellers with open arms. It’s a perfect route – Australians love to visit our ski hills and cities while Brisbane and the Great Barrier Reef are a constant draw for Canadians,” said Craig Richmond, Vancouver Airport Authority.

Air Canada’s new service will generate approximately $9 million in Gross Domestic Product and $5.3 million in wages to the BC economy and add an additional 134 jobs at YVR, BC’s hotels, tourism attractions and businesses. The service will further establish Vancouver and BC as a key tourism location for visitors from Australia, who increased by 6.3 per cent in 2014. The new Brisbane service will give BC businesses and organizations more options to reach customers in Australia

http://www.yvr.ca/en/flight-informat...776309358.aspx

[s211]

Originally Posted by Cage

Also, there is supposed to be a north south taxiway that will go over top Grant McConachie Way, Sky Train, and Miller Road. This taxway will be perpendicular to and beside the two AC hangars (the original AC hangar on the southside and the former CP hangar on the north side.

I'd be interested to how that will be accomplished, given we're at sea level and don't really have options to tunnel for vehicles withoug significant costs.

Is it possible that planes would have to ascend a long gradual ramp up and over the roads?

[Denscity]

New flight announcement to Australia where's Johnny??

[trofirhen]

Knowing now that Brisbane's on the horizon for sure, is great!! And with 787s, yet
Claude Richmond, as part of his response, declared wanting to make Vancouver a Pacific hub. This seems to be consolidating piece by piece, with the absence, conspicuous or not, of Tahiti.

OK, yes, preferably more profitable CDG - LAX - PPT because the great circle route goes directly through LAX. (and admittedly a larger market)... but wait !! Check the air mikes calculator below.

Via CDG- YVR - PPT is only 48 (yes 48) miles longer. If you don't believe me, look. Air Tahiti Nui might think about a YVR connection.

http://www.airmilescalculator.com/di...dg-to-lax-ppt/
via LAX

http://www.airmilescalculator.com/di...dg-to-yvr-ppt/
via YVR
Another possible destination in our Oceania roster as we inexorably become a hub, not only for Asia, but for The South Pacific as well.

[moosejaw]

Originally Posted by s211

I'd be interested to how that will be accomplished, given we're at sea level and don't really have options to tunnel for vehicles withoug significant costs.

Is it possible that planes would have to ascend a long gradual ramp up and over the roads?

We did this recently in Fort Lauderdale (FLL) where instead of tunneling we built a runway extension with an adjoining taxiway where it is ramped up at one end to bridge over US1 (Federal Highway). The eastern end of the runway is elevated by 52 feet using 11 million tons of dirt and has a slope of 1.3 degrees.

Offtopic but unfortunately when building this runway extension, the designers erred as it eliminated a key southbound ramp to Hollywood FL. So now drivers wanting to go southbound now have to take a side road to get there. A taxi is now several dollars more because of this mistake

[Klazu]

trofirhen, did you just re-post those calculations for the third time? I think we have seen those...

Great news about Brisbane being confirmed, but too bad that it is still a year away.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Klazu

trofirhen, did you just re-post those calculations for the third time? I think we have seen those...

Great news about Brisbane being confirmed, but too bad that it is still a year away.

sorry. I thought my other calculations were Asia-South America,comparing via YYZ or YVR.

But hey, yeah, our Oceania presence is starting to move again (and 2016 will arrive before we know it; life passes so fast !!!)

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Denscity

New flight announcement to Australia where's Johnny??

Jetlag Johnny slept through this one!! The biggest announcment since Hainan... How many weeks ago was that? YVR continues on a pretty good roll of new flights/announcements. This has been an impressive last few years and continuing into the future.

Wow.. Ok maybe not a huge surprise with all the speculation... certainly a lot more speculation was generated downunder but great news nonetheless.

YVR's Asia Pacific focus just seems to be ticking along one step at a time. I am also noticing new longhaul routes seem to be getting announced with longer and longer lead times. This is almost one year in advance.

And with Australia, once QF gets its act together with new long range aircraft QF will be on board with daily year round YVR-SYD too.

So now perhaps the next step for YVR is get a direct MEL flight too. Bilateral changes required obviously because I highly doubt QF would touch it... unless, again, they restructure their longhaul fleet with dreamliners or similar.

[deasine]

I wonder if/what was the discount Air Canada received for this flight flying into Brisbane given the limited controls on charges. I'm sure the route was only confirmed until Air Canada felt it was the best price they could receive.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by deasine

I wonder if/what was the discount Air Canada received for this flight flying into Brisbane given the limited controls on charges. I'm sure the route was only confirmed until Air Canada felt it was the best price they could receive.

Discounts are probably the usual suspects.
- Airport and tourist boards will give free advertising.
- Local radio, print, and TV promotion advertising in both YVR and BNE, paid by BNE and Australian tourist boards.
- Favourable press quotes from both sides of the pond.
- YVR end will likely reciprocate with advertising with airport picking up the tab.

The biggest impact AC could get is having BNE politicians advocate for removal of the seat capacity cap that exists between Canada and Australia. Might not get full openskies, but a lifting of the seat cap would help AC quite a bit.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Denscity

New flight announcement to Australia where's Johnny??

At the time of the announcement it was midnight Sydney and 11:30pm in Melbourne.

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Jetlag Johnny slept through this one!! The biggest announcement since Hainan... How many weeks ago was that? YVR continues on a pretty good roll of new flights/announcements. This has been an impressive last few years and continuing into the future.

Wow.. Ok maybe not a huge surprise with all the speculation... certainly a lot more speculation was generated downunder but great news nonetheless.

YVR's Asia Pacific focus just seems to be ticking along one step at a time. I am also noticing new longhaul routes seem to be getting announced with longer and longer lead times all the time. This is almost one year in advance.

And with Australia, once QF gets its act together with new long range aircraft QF will be on board with daily year round YVR-SYD too.

So now perhaps the next step for YVR is get a direct MEL flight too. Bilateral changes required obviously because I highly doubt QF would touch it... unless, again, they restructure their longhaul fleet with dreamliners or similar.

No worries mate. I was just happy to have caught a break and posted during the Australian sleep time.

I think it will be at least 4-6 years before QF gets their hands on dreamliner or 350 equipment to operate SYD-YVR.

If only QF had done it right and purchased the 77W, or realizes their mistake and picks up a few 77Ws in the short term.

[Klazu]

Couldn't Qantas just lease appropiate planes to get a piece of the pie? There are lots of companies leasing even long-haul planes to various airlines.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Cage

At the time of the announcement it was midnight Sydney and 11:30pm in Melbourne.

Ha ha! We had a recent referendum and moved our time zone 15 mins... so it was 11:45pm. I voted yes so our ski hills get more snow now.

Originally Posted by Cage

No worries mate. I was just happy to have caught a break and posted during the Australian sleep time.

I think it will be at least 4-6 years before QF gets their hands on dreamliner or 350 equipment to operate SYD-YVR.

If only QF had done it right and purchased the 77W, or realizes their mistake and picks up a few 77Ws in the short term.

Yeah, despite all the rah rah fan boys pro and anti QF, Qantas really did miss the boat on this. Mis-read the markets. A380s too big and nothing really adequate to cover the smaller markets except for the more regional medium haul routes to Asia. VA only has 773s but too few to make a dent and again, too large for most routes. VA long-haul international appears to be struggling too. Bit by bit others are just chipping away slowly.

[whatnext]

I'm a bit surprised they are starting the flight in June. Wouldn't that be the slowest time of year for Canada-Australia traffic?

[SFUVancouver]

That's great news for the YVR-BNE Air Canada route!

Very excited to see the Dreamliner start living up to its promise of inducing new route connectivity.

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Klazu

Couldn't Qantas just lease appropiate planes to get a piece of the pie? There are lots of companies leasing even long-haul planes to various airlines.

Aircraft that can do the mission include: newer 777, 787, 340-300/500/600, 350, 380. The 380 is too big an airplane for the mission. There is no availability of 787 and newer 777 and 350. The 340 is not economical, but is available.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by s211

I'd be interested to how that will be accomplished, given we're at sea level and don't really have options to tunnel for vehicles withoug significant costs.

Is it possible that planes would have to ascend a long gradual ramp up and over the roads?

in response to the North-South Taxiway

source: YVR