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^^^ Then the numbers need to be crunched... I find it exhaustively frustrating that the suggestions always seem to be.. "just increase taxes on those who don't have gold plated government jobs to pay for our stuff".

If there are DB plans in the system... then lets have the conversation now on how to streamline that and redirect the money to transit. Lets look at reforming arbitration to save money on fire/law enforcement... plenty of room to investigate on the "bare bones".

I'm not anti-tax tea-party Republican by any means.... but 1% here... 1% there at some point will add up to 100%.
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^^^ Then the numbers need to be crunched... I find it exhaustively frustrating that the suggestions always seem to be.. "just increase taxes on those who don't have gold plated government jobs to pay for our stuff".
? Everyone pays taxes.

Ironically, in all levels of government, it's actually the low level workers who are making way more than private sector equivalents and driving up government wage bills. The 'gold-plated' executives and such on the sunshine list are in most cases actually making significantly less than private sector equivalents. Most managers could literally make 2x-3x more money if they jumped ship to private sector.

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I'm not anti-tax tea-party Republican by any means.... but 1% here... 1% there at some point will add up to 100%.
The real issue is that too much taxation revenues are too high up on the chain. The federal government makes the bulk of the tax dollars even though it's the provinces and the municipalities that pay for most of the costs. Hence why the federal government was able to massively reduce debt in the 1990s, has spent the past few decades cutting taxes, and still has lots of waste even with that, while the provinces & municipalities wallow in fiscal crisis after fiscal crisis.

The provinces/municipalities are dependent on federal transfers.. however every time the federal government needs to cut spending, the feds cut those transfers. Ultimately, we need a nationwide treaty for more taxation revenues to go directly to lower levels... say the feds cut their sales tax by 2% and every province raises theirs by 2%.
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The feds already did cut the GST by 2%, Quebec increased the TVQ to take up the room, but other provinces chose to miss the "opportunity" and opted for demanding increased transfers instead, which is crummy policy but easier politics.
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The feds already did cut the GST by 2%, Quebec increased the TVQ to take up the room, but other provinces chose to miss the "opportunity" and opted for demanding increased transfers instead, which is crummy policy but easier politics.
Agreed, the provinces certainly take part of the blame for this.
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Most managers could literally make 2x-3x more money if they jumped ship to private sector.
I have a very difficult time believing "most managers" at the city are so dedicated to their jobs that they're doing it for 1/3 the pay they are actually worth.
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I have a very difficult time believing "most managers" at the city are so dedicated to their jobs that they're doing it for 1/3 the pay they are actually worth.
Job security is a wonderful thing.
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Committee approves light rail through Unitarian campus
Cleary Station opposition packs finance committee meeting


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By Emma Jackson
2015-06-30

Members of the First Unitarian Church and their tenants are taking their fight to the provincial level after the city’s finance and economic development committee approved plans to run its western light rail extension through its backyard.

“It’s a blemish on the city that they can disregard seniors and a child care centre to force fit this through when there’s a better alternative,” said former city councillor Alex Cullen, who spoke at committee of behalf of the River Parkway children’s centre that operates on church property.

The church campus east of Woodroffe Avenue and north of Richmond Road is directly in the path of the city’s plans to extend its light rail network from Tunney’s Pasture to Bayshore station after 2018.

CHANGE OF PLANS

It didn’t used to be: the city’s original route in 2013 skirted the private campus just enough to avoid an outcry.

But the National Capital Commission stopped those plans in its tracks when it refused to let the city’s project run through its land as planned. That prompted a 100-day working group to negotiate a new route, which, when the winning route was revealed this March, ended up running directly underneath the Unitarian campus.

It’s not just the church that’s taking offence. The property is also home to 130 seniors who live at Unitarian House, a non-profit and non-denominational long-term care facility that leases space from the congregation. The other tenant is the River Parkway Children’s Centre, which offers day care to 74 children throughout the week.

Members of all three groups packed a city committee room on June 29, but they couldn’t convince Mayor Jim Watson or his colleagues to change their plans.

It was the last chance for the community groups to speak their minds on the issue. The committee was meeting to consider functional designs for three light rail expansions east, west and south of the downtown Confederation line, before council finalizes the decision July 8.

These extensions make up the city’s stage two light rail package, an ambitious 30-kilometre project that will add 19 stations to the rapid transit network by 2023. But the Unitarian tenants only care about one station: Cleary.

According to the designs approved by the committee June 29, Cleary Station will be built entirely underground just north of the church’s campus, to accommodate a light rail track which will pass underground in a cut-and-cover tunnel on its way west-bound to New Orchard Station.

It won’t pass directly under any buildings. According to the designs the train will instead pass under existing parking lots, laneways and gardens about six metres underground. It will be about 18 metres away from the seniors’ home and the daycare.

That’s too close for comfort, according to the long line of speakers who urged the committee to reject the design and instead go ahead with an alternative route that would take the underground tunnel through Rochester Field and Byron Linear Park instead.

That option was considered during the 100-day working group, but it scored lower on the city’s feasibility analyses. The advocates said the analyses were flawed and should be revisited to take the effect on the seniors and children into account.

SHAKY GROUND

According to them, the problems with the approved route are two-fold: first, the two-year construction period will turn the campus’s tranquil lawns and gardens into a noisy, dusty construction site that will disrupt the children’s nap times and could be seriously detrimental to the health of the fragile residents who live in the long-term care facility – it might even kill them, one resident suggested.

“This is a matter of more or less life and death,” said 92-year-old Tom Dent, who lives at Unitarian House. “By the time this construction starts I’ll be 94 or 95 so I would guess my last two years are going to be spent in a construction site.”

And once the construction is over, the residents who have survived will then have to deal with the long-term noise and vibrations of trains constantly whizzing by beneath their feet.

But city staff assured councillors the reality won’t be nearly as dramatic as the speakers suggest. The construction will be annoying, yes, but light rail implementation manager Nancy Schepers said there are mitigation measures that can be worked into a procurement contract to make sure the site is as clean and quiet as possible.

First and foremost, that includes enforcing the city’s own noise bylaws, she said. They can also build temporary sound barriers or bring equipment onto the site further down the line so they’re not driving near the campus.

As for any long-term disruptions from the new rail service, Schepers said they’ve already solved these issues with the National Arts Centre and the CBC, who were also concerned about the vibrations of the downtown line affecting their programs.

There are many ways to sound and shock proof the train, she said. Rubber pads under the tracks buffer the contact between the train and the tunnel floor and therefore limit sound and vibrations enormously, for example.

But Cullen wasn’t buying it.

“The problem is if the mitigation doesn’t work then they’re going to have to expropriate us,” Cullen said. “Why take this risk when you have a perfectly good alternative going under Rochester Field and Byron (Linear Park)? Why put the seniors and the childcare centre at risk?”

Mayor Jim Watson was firm in his belief that the committee approved the right design.

“We’re never going to find unanimity,” he said. “There’s often fear of the unknown. People aren’t sure what it’s going to look like, and the natural reaction is ‘I’m against it.’”

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Finance committee approves phase 2 LRT plan

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: June 29, 2015 | Last Updated: June 29, 2015 6:40 PM EDT


Ottawa’s international airport authority is prepared to pay for and build a light-rail stop inside its passenger terminal, the organization’s head said Monday, as the finance committee approved the $3-billion plan to extend LRT further east, west and south.

“We are willing to put some skin in the game,” said chief executive Mark Laroche.

The preliminary cost for the station — which would be included in the proposed extension of the Trillium O-Train line from Greenboro station to Riverside South — is about $35 million. But that figure might include costs for laying the track for which the authority is not prepared to pay, Laroche said.

The plan is in its preliminary stage, but Laroche said he pictures the new rail stop being integrated into a future terminal expansion designed to provide airline passengers with a seamless transition from train to terminal. The airport improvement fee, now $23 per departing flight, can be used to fund airport infrastructure projects, he said.

Mayor Jim Watson, who chairs the finance committee, said he was “pleasantly surprised” with Laroche’s offer.

“I think that’s a great piece of news for people that want to see rail service go out to the airport,” he told reporters.

Laroche said the city’s proposed route, as outlined in an environmental assessment, confirms that the rail link to the airport is technically possible. But the challenge is to secure the funding needed to make it happen.

“If we don’t get it done at the same time as the Trillium line extension, it’s unlikely that it will get done,” he said.

In addition to extending the Trillium line further south and adding five new stations, the committee also endorsed the plan to extend the Confederation line, currently under construction, from Blair station to Place d’Orléans. A further extension to Trim Road, at an added cost of $160 million, was not included in the initial plan but will continue to be explored.

In the west, the Confederation line would be extended by 13 kilometres from Tunney’s Pasture station to Baseline and Bayshore stations, with 10 new stations.

More than two dozen delegations appeared before the committee, including several connected to the First Unitarian Congregation.

The church has come out against the city’s preferred option for the western LRT extension, saying the current routing through its Cleary Avenue property is unacceptable. In addition to the church, the 2.4-hectare property contains a seniors’ residence and daycare, both of which are also opposed to the city’s plan.

Specifically, the congregation’s concerns range from the increased noise and vibration associated with construction and underground trains to the loss of mature trees and enjoyment of its outdoor spaces.

“We’re not a bunch of old NIMBYs,” said Tom Dent of the Unitarian House residents association.

But Watson and several councillors questioned the concerns related to construction given the congregation’s own plans for development on the site, which include a new affordable housing building.

“Construction is construction,” the mayor said.

Several speakers associated with First Unitarian seem to prefer an alternate route for the western extension, which would see the line cross beneath Rochester Field and underneath the Byron Linear Park.

Others who spoke to the committee urged it to consider moving the western terminus to Moodie Drive, instead of the current plan for it to stop at a redesigned station at Bayshore Shopping Centre.

The light-rail expansion plans were, however, lauded by several high-profile organizations, including Algonquin College, Ottawa Tourism, the Ottawa Chamber of Commerce and Ecology Ottawa.

If council approves the plan at its July 8 meeting, the city will submit a trio of environmental assessments — one each for the three extensions — to the province for approval and begin work on securing federal and provincial contributions.

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It’s not just the church that’s taking offence. The property is also home to 130 seniors who live at Unitarian House, a non-profit and non-denominational long-term care facility that leases space from the congregation. The other tenant is the River Parkway Children’s Centre, which offers day care to 74 children throughout the week.

That option was considered during the 100-day working group, but it scored lower on the city’s feasibility analyses. The advocates said the analyses were flawed and should be revisited to take the effect on the seniors and children into account.

SHAKY GROUND

According to them, the problems with the approved route are two-fold: first, the two-year construction period will turn the campus’s tranquil lawns and gardens into a noisy, dusty construction site that will disrupt the children’s nap times and could be seriously detrimental to the health of the fragile residents who live in the long-term care facility – it might even kill them, one resident suggested.


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So their opposition literally comes down to this:


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It could theoretically be on the surface almost the entire way--from about King Edward eastward--as the ROW on uptown RIdeau is wide enough to accomodate a median LRT ROW, if they removed the bus/parking lanes on the outside thus narrowing the road to one car lane, one LRT lane in each direction.
Montreal rd gets pretty narrow in some places in Vanier.
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The real issue is that too much taxation revenues are too high up on the chain. The federal government makes the bulk of the tax dollars even though it's the provinces and the municipalities that pay for most of the costs. Hence why the federal government was able to massively reduce debt in the 1990s, has spent the past few decades cutting taxes, and still has lots of waste even with that, while the provinces & municipalities wallow in fiscal crisis after fiscal crisis.

The provinces/municipalities are dependent on federal transfers.. however every time the federal government needs to cut spending, the feds cut those transfers. Ultimately, we need a nationwide treaty for more taxation revenues to go directly to lower levels... say the feds cut their sales tax by 2% and every province raises theirs by 2%.
Agreed. Considering most of the services we use every day are provincial & municipal, it's ridiculous how much we're taxed federally.
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Ultimately, we need a nationwide treaty for more taxation revenues to go directly to lower levels... say the feds cut their sales tax by 2% and every province raises theirs by 2%.
Agreed... as long as the city gets 1% also.... quite common in the States actually.
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Awesome!

More LRT for sprawling, low-density, auto-dependent suburbs!

No real mass transit for any higher-density, transit-supportive inner communities, except those that happen to be near the routes connecting suburbs to the downtown core!

Awesome! Enjoy my taxes, Kanata! So much awesome!
Although this is true, successful LRT lines are those that go far out into the suburb to get people to their work. These are also the lines that get rid of the most cars from the streets since those people have the longest commutes. A lot of people that live in the inner city work near where they live. Anyways, I know that the Carling/Montral road line NEEDS to be built but the reason why they chose to go to the subburbs first is since these are the largest transit users. The city supports the people that use the service plain and simple.

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Extending to Kanata would likely get less ridership than Orleans, or even extending from Baseline to Barrhaven Centre. The reasons are as follows:

1) The orientation of Kanata is north-south, while for all of Ottawa it is east-west. That means coverage would be limited in terms of trips that can walk onto the Confederation Line. Local buses would have to feed more than 95% of trips (for Orleans it would be about 80% and for Barrhaven about 70%).

2) LRT would not have any benefit for those that live and work in Kanata. As it is, those movements are extremely poorly served by transit and most who remain internal end up forced to drive. On the flip side...the fact that local buses would not have to turn towards Bayshore from Eagleson would enable straighter routings locally.

3) The catchment area of individual stations would have very few people. A station at Eagleson, serving the Park and Ride, would grab almost no walk-on traffic but would still be valuable especially if a large multi-level garage is built on site or nearby. Terry Fox would likely need to move eastward, directly under the Castlefrank overpass, to maximize the catchment area (even though it is a long distance from Kanata Centrum that is not really a ridership grabber anyway). Stations farther west would likely be deferred to Stage 4.

If built, I recommend a massive parking garage be built at Eagleson for 2,000 or more cars. At the same time, the Park and Ride at Terry Fox should be decommissioned and sold back to Kanata Centrum, with the whole station moved eastward about 400 metres. Local buses would be on Maritime Way nearby.
Another big consideration is the proposal to build a new home for the Senators Downtown. The way I see it, if the Kanata extension wasn't considered when it was assumed we would keep the Corel Centre as is for decades to come, we shouldn't consider it now if the arena moves downtown. Of course, if another proponent is chosen for Le Breton, and the Sens decide to stay in Kanata, then the extension should once again be looked at.
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Ottawa Council endorses $3B plan for light rail expansion

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: July 8, 2015 | Last Updated: July 8, 2015 5:22 PM EDT


Approving the ambitious $3-billion plan to extend light-rail service by 2023 was a historic moment for Ottawa, Mayor Jim Watson said Wednesday.

“After years and years of debate, we’re actually moving forward to get the train going farther east, farther west and down south,” he said, adding the work will build on the success of the Confederation line currently under construction.

Council’s unanimous approval means the city can formally move ahead with its funding requests to other levels of government and submit a trio of environmental assessments — one each for the three extensions — to the province for approval.

Councillors also agreed to transfer $7 million to the stage 2 LRT project account so staff can proceed with preliminary implementation plans.

Phase two would see:

• The Confederation line extend west by 13 kilometres from Tunney’s Pasture station to Baseline and Bayshore stations, with 10 new stations, and east from Blair station to Place d’Orléans with four new stops. A further extension to Trim Road, at an added cost of $160 million, was not included in the initial plan but will continue to be explored.

• The Trillium line extend south from Greenboro station to Riverside South and add five new stations. A rail link to the airport, at an added cost of $155 million, will also be explored further. The airport authority said last week it is prepared to contribute to the estimated $35-million cost of building a light-rail stop inside its passenger terminal.

Council also asked staff to explore the feasibility of extending light rail to Kanata sooner than 2031 and connecting Riverside South to Barrhaven Town Centre via bus rapid transit.

Encouraging the eventual builder to finish the Trillium line extension before 2023 was another request.

While it appears the LRT plan is moving full-steam ahead, council did receive a submission from residents of Unitarian House. The 123 signatories asked the city to reconsider the current proposed western extension, particularly the section from the proposed Dominion to Cleary stations.

The seniors home shares a 2.4-hectare campus on Richmond Road with the First Unitarian Congregation church and a daycare, both of which are also opposed to the city’s plans to build a tunnel underneath the property because of concerns about increased noise and vibration associated with construction and underground trains.

Watson said he’s aware of the group’s fears and pledged the city will try to mitigate construction impacts, as it has done in other parts of town when there was a major construction project.

“We will do our best to ensure the disruption is minimal, but when you’re building a major train system, there is going to be some disruption,” he said.

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Councillors OK $60M sole-sourced contract for LRT's second phase

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Published on: September 1, 2015 | Last Updated: September 1, 2015 9:47 PM EDT


Five years after he publicly pledged to ban all sole-sourced city contracts if elected mayor of Ottawa, Jim Watson has thrown his support behind a plan to give a $60-million sole-sourced contract to a consortium working on Ottawa’s new light rail transit system.

City council’s finance and economic development committee, chaired by Watson, approved a staff recommendation Tuesday to award the non-competitive contract to Capital Transit Partners (CTP) for design and engineering work on the second phase of the LRT project. Only Coun. Diane Deans dissented.

CTP, a four-company joint venture, won a contract for similar services through a competitive process in 2010 for the LRT’s first phase, the Confederation Line.

According to a staff report, the city will have paid CTP about $100 million in 2015 dollars for the Confederation Line work by the time it is completed in 2018.

The proposed Phase 2 contract is worth between $50 million and $60 million, the staff report says, with a $15-million to $20- million option to provide construction oversight and quality management.

The rationale for negotiating a sole-sourced contract with CTP, according to the staff report, is that it takes advantage of the knowledge and expertise the consortium has built up during its work on Phase 1 of the LRT.

“Their staff acquired significant experience in designing and implementing light rail projects in Ottawa, including an appreciation for the unique aspects of working in the National Capital,” the report says.

Nancy Schepers, the former deputy city manager who is currently a senior adviser to the city’s light-rail office, said CTP is “uniquely positioned with the experience that they’ve gained on the Confederation Line to hit the ground running.”

City manager Kent Kirkpatrick said the price negotiated with CTP — made up of STV Canada Consulting Inc., URS Canada Inc./Aecom, Jacobs Associates Canada Corp. and Morrison Hershfield Ltd. — would be based on the pricing in its current competitively awarded contract.

During the relatively short committee debate on the issue, Watson intervened to express his support for the staff recommendation to award the non-competitive contract.

That was in sharp contrast to comments he made while running for mayor in 2010, when he said he would “ban all sole-sourced contracts by the city” if elected.

“The public trust is damaged and shaken when City Hall doles out contracts worth millions of dollars without the proper public tendering competition,” Watson said at the time.

He made the statements in the context of the controversy over sole-sourced contracts awarded as part of the Lansdowne Park redevelopment, which Watson said he would not challenge.

On Tuesday, Watson said negotiating a non-competitive contract with CTP was “the right decision to ensure that we continue the momentum to make sure light rail goes further east, west and south in our city.

“If all of a sudden, midway through the biggest city building project in the city’s history, if we change direction and companies, we set back the schedule and we wouldn’t save the dollars as we’ve been told by our professional staff and we wouldn’t see the continuation of efficiency with the project,” the mayor said.

The only committee member to vote against the sole-sourced contract was Deans.

“On the face of it, sole-sourcing a $60-million contract doesn’t sound great to me,” she said. “If you don’t have a competitive process, you don’t really know what the market is.”

Especially with the economy in recession, many companies eager for work might be willing to “sharpen their pencils” to secure a $60-million municipal contract, Deans said.

But Coun. Keith Egli said the decision to award the sole-sourced contract was “a no-brainer.

“We have an efficient company that knows the territory, knows the project, has the expertise, will have a minimal ramp-up to work on Phase 2 (and) can actually save us money,” Egli said.

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If the MSF is being built there, they should consider building a station just south of Tallwood Drive anyway. However, transfers would still be at Baseline Station since that station has no room for local platforms (just a walk-up station). Baseline is certainly planned to be a central hub and development area, while Tallwood is planned as a community station.

I do like that location since it can be dual-purposed if a crosstown line or a commuter rail service is built on the old CN line.
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If the MSF is being built there, they should consider building a station just south of Tallwood Drive anyway. However, transfers would still be at Baseline Station since that station has no room for local platforms (just a walk-up station). Baseline is certainly planned to be a central hub and development area, while Tallwood is planned as a community station.

I do like that location since it can be dual-purposed if a crosstown line or a commuter rail service is built on the old CN line.
And if the MSF is located there, are we essentially getting an extra kilometer of the Phase 3 line (or Phase 7, or whatever) to Barrhaven built now in Stage 2?
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