DENVER | Main Development Thread #6 - Page 230

Sam Hill · #**4581** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 7:13 PM**

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Centennial Gardens - 03 by Ryan Dravitz, on Flickr

Wow. Such a striking contrast from one side of the creek to the other.

EngiNerd · #**4582** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 7:21 PM**

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You guys catch the sunset last night?

Elich Gardens by Ryan Dravitz, on Flickr

Holy smokes, I knew the rivers were full, but I don't think I have ever seen the South Platte that full! Beautiful photos!

rds70 · #**4583** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 9:36 PM**

Some Friday afternoon news:

A 16 story, 306 unit apartment building is being proposed for the triangular shaped property north of Speer and west of Bannock in the Golden Triangle.

enjo13 · #**4584** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by rds70

Some Friday afternoon news:

A 16 story, 306 unit apartment building is being proposed for the triangular shaped property north of Speer and west of Bannock in the Golden Triangle.

That'd be really interesting. Would build the beginnings of a big wall down speer.

DownhomeDenver · #**4585** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 9:49 PM**

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You came in here making a hyperbolic statement along the lines of, "everybody knows the legalization of marijuana is responsible for the bulk of the housing cost increases," and since then it has been meticulously proved, with real data, that your claim is an exaggeration (to put it mildly). You've chosen to completely ignore these facts and have offered nothing but anecdotes and conjecture to back up your argument. And now you have the nerve to make a statement like this:

You're getting increasingly unreasonable and defiant as this argument goes along and I think at this point you're just hijacking the thread.

I would hate to see this thread degenerate into countless exhausting pages about "the marijuana thing" the way the SLC thread tends to degenerate into an endless argument about "the Mormon thing."

Yup I think this whole thing needs to be moved out of this thread so we can concentrate on what's really important. Can we get a mod to do that please!

DownhomeDenver · #**4586** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by rds70

Some Friday afternoon news:

A 16 story, 306 unit apartment building is being proposed for the triangular shaped property north of Speer and west of Bannock in the Golden Triangle.

RDS are you talking about the property where the Dependable Cleaners is? It looks like BANNOCK ASSOCIATES LTD PARTNERSHIP out of Aspen owns a good amount of land on that block. 875 Bannock is the southern most parcel.

Denverite · #**4587** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 10:15 PM**

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You're getting increasingly unreasonable and defiant as this argument goes along and I think at this point you're just hijacking the thread.

Well, let's see. Since I've been on this forum, I've been accused of lying, exaggerating, been told "I call bullshit" on things I've posted, been ridiculed for being critical of "stick buildings", the list goes on. The little denver forum fan club bands together in ignorant solidarity because, gasp, no one dare criticize anything that happens in Denver. I know I'm not welcome here, but it doesn't mean I can't discuss items in a reasonable manner.

On that note, point out where I've been unreasonable or defiant. That's bs.

Ultimately, you guys really need to grow a pair and learn how to debate an issue without getting so nasty. One of the most unfriendly board cliques I've ever seen.

I get it though. You want to drop it because you finally figured out you're wrong.

RyanD · #**4588** Posted **Jun 26, 2015, 10:30 PM**

^ That's not necessarily the most friendly response either. Let's not fight fire with fire here. Everyone has their own opinions / observations and, quite frankly, nobody is right or wrong because no hard evidence has been presented from any party.

So, I'll put my mod hammer down here. Let's stop the pot conversation since we all have varying opinions and sensitivites on the subject. If it continues, I'm not afraid to delete posts.

We can all agree that Denver has some growing pains from various sources of immigration. Be that Cali, Manning, pot, and the beautiful state we have here.

Moving forward...

rds70 · #**4589** Posted **Jun 27, 2015, 12:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by DownhomeDenver

RDS are you talking about the property where the Dependable Cleaners is? It looks like BANNOCK ASSOCIATES LTD PARTNERSHIP out of Aspen owns a good amount of land on that block. 875 Bannock is the southern most parcel.

Yes, it would take the Dependable Cleaners site, as well as the first set of buildings to the north of it. It would go north on Bannock to the Rooster and Moon building, which would remain.

Oh, and the building would have about 30,000 square feet of ground floor retail.

DownhomeDenver · #**4590** Posted **Jun 27, 2015, 1:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by rds70

Yes, it would take the Dependable Cleaners site, as well as the first set of buildings to the north of it. It would go north on Bannock to the Rooster and Moon building, which would remain.

Oh, and the building would have about 30,000 square feet of ground floor retail.

Thanks RDS!

ramanboy33 · #**4591** Posted **Jun 27, 2015, 6:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by rds70

Some Friday afternoon news:

A 16 story, 306 unit apartment building is being proposed for the triangular shaped property north of Speer and west of Bannock in the Golden Triangle.

Are you sure it's apartments and not 16 stories of marijuana dispensaries?

Stonemans_rowJ · #**4592** Posted **Jun 27, 2015, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by RyanD

We can all agree that Denver has some growing pains from various sources of immigration. Be that Cali, Manning, pot, and the beautiful state we have here.

Moving forward...

Have you guys considered the "magnetic force" of the hipsters and their hand-made soaps, chocolate, and artisannly-roasted coffees?

rds70 · #**4593** Posted **Jun 28, 2015, 4:24 PM**

It looks like Eviva Cherokee is officially under construction:

mojiferous · #**4594** Posted **Jun 28, 2015, 5:11 PM**

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It looks like Eviva Cherokee is officially under construction

I was really worried that this was not going to happen. I wonder what took so long? Funding? Construction timeline holdups?

Dogpatch · #**4595** Posted **Jun 28, 2015, 5:24 PM**

That's great news. This part of town desperately needs people. Hopefully this sparks some more high density development nearby.

corey · #**4596** Posted **Jun 28, 2015, 7:57 PM**

Thrilled that Eviva Cherokee has started construction! I hope some developers a working on plans for the parking lot on the SE corner of 13th and Bannock. It currently such an eyesore viewed from the DAM. That site has a huge amount of potential to be something great.

corey · #**4597** Posted **Jun 28, 2015, 10:34 PM**

I have to agree that the couple of Victorian houses a citizen's group is trying to save in Jefferson Park should not be torn down by a developer who wants to increase the size of their property to build more units (I don't know if they are going to be apartments or condos/townhouses). These houses are in well maintained condition and are good quality with nice original details. I don't have a problem with old, dilapidated, cheaply made buildings being torn down for something new. But it is not an improvement for the neighborhood or the city when nice old buildings are torn down for standard new ones. The owner could sell these houses to someone that will cherish them instead. He was offered $1M for the two houses by the developer. He could get close to that much if he sold them to individual buyers. If these properties need to be developed so badly these houses should be moved instead.

bunt_q · #**4598** Posted **Jun 29, 2015, 1:27 AM**

That's asinine. Moved where, and is the city going to pay for that? (A) if somebody wants to sell their house to a developer, that's their right. (B) you think every building in the city older than, say, 1930, needs to be preserved? If that's the case, we will never be able to densify. Major historic buildings, yes. Single-family homes (barring some major event, or important person having been there)? No. Cities change, deal with it.

Agent Orange · #**4599** Posted **Jun 29, 2015, 1:37 AM**

^ You need to host some workshops to get that sensibility across to the citizens of San Francisco.

corey · #**4600** Posted **Jun 29, 2015, 4:55 AM**

I didn't say the city should start moving houses. I just don't think it is beneficial to tear down houses like these for more of the standard apartment buildings the developers are currently building. The developer in this case is only thinking of the money their going to make and not about the historic fabric of the neighborhood. Tear down the run down p.o.s buildings first. How is tearing down houses like this an improvement? Besides, in this market the owner can easily sell these homes to people how would love to own them.