PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 392

br323206 · #**7821** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1487

Exactly, its like the folks who were complaining about the outlet concept for the gallery because they want Nordstroms, gucci, Prada, LV, etc. It's not going to be like 5th ave because we dont have the demographics to support those stores. The millenials paying $1500 for efficiencies are not rich, they are just gainfully employed. If you look at how they dress and where they spend money the idea that we have pent up demand for a gucci store is comical. We are getting outlets because we want tourists and middle class Philly people to actually buy something from this new mall. And just as there are teens and young adults shopping at Century 21- you will find them at the new Gallery looking for name brand goods for decent prices.

I'd also like to make the point that there is an Abercrombie and Fitch right next to the Prada on 5th Avenue. Sooooo... There is room for both high-end and middle of the road type retail in the same general area.

christof · #**7822** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flyers2001

It looks to have 22-24 floors on the eastern side. I am not sure what the floor heights would be but Perelman next to it stands around 300-310 feet and this will be taller, I would say height around 350-375. Different floors are going to have different heights with this depending on use I would guess. The CN level at Perelman is almost the size of 2 floors at a office building.

Again I am guess things change a bit, who knows with Penn they may go back to the two tower approach as there was a small model built. Either case we are looking at 2021 type finish, pending issues.

The majority of current HUP will return to Upenn the school.

I counted 20 stories on the East side. 8 to the first part, 12 additional thereafter.

Philly Fan · #**7823** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 6:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flyers2001

The majority of current HUP will return to Upenn the school.

Any idea which part of the current complex will be returned? Seems to me that it would make sense to do that with the buildings along Spruce Street, while keeping one or two of the buildings along 34th Street--i.e., Ravdin and Silverstein--as part of HUP.

Mikieman · #**7824** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 7:21 PM**

This could be big for NE transportation. Philly to DC on the train without paying Amtrak prices.

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2015/06/22/marc-trains-come-delaware/29121793/

1487 · #**7825** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 7:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Londonee

I think the plans for the Gallery are, simply put, the least imaginative solution to the problem. I would have liked to see more big box retail for residents: Bed Bath and Beyond, Home Goods, Crate and Barrell, Container Store, Best Buy, urban Home Depot. Stores for the booming parents/children population like Toys R Us, Babies R Us, or Carters. I would love to see a high end cinema concept (dinner, cocktails, lounge chairs) or a House-of-Blues-style performance venue.

It's a HUGE facility, so having a Gucci or Prada outlet portion for tourists is fine - it just seems like a perfect location for all of the massive footprint stores that, otherwise, can't open in CC and that, imo, would be a huge miss for us residents.

agreed, CC is really lacking places to get regular stuff- the kinds of stuff you get at a target or BB&B. A home depot or something along those lines would also come in handy.

Flyers2001 · #**7826** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan

Any idea which part of the current complex will be returned? Seems to me that it would make sense to do that with the buildings along Spruce Street, while keeping one or two of the buildings along 34th Street--i.e., Ravdin and Silverstein--as part of HUP.

There is 11-13 buildings that make up hup, Silverstien, ravdin, gates and Founders are the largest. I am not sure what buildings go back or all, Strategically Silverstein Founders and Ravdin make up the south east corner closest to Penn Tower now.

Flyers2001 · #**7827** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 8:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by christof

I counted 20 stories on the East side. 8 to the first part, 12 additional thereafter.

I have another photo that I will try to upload. It's fuzzy, it shows a breakdown of the floors. There are additional mechanical floors that are not shown too well in the photos I posted. it shows the four levels below grade as well as two floors designated to operating rooms on the smaller end and three on the taller end.

Philly Fan · #**7828** Posted **Jun 23, 2015, 10:24 PM**

Royal Theater redevelopment clears design hurdle

hammersklavier · #**7829** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 4:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mappy

Philly District 30

suggestions renders, and, layouts Im sending to the plan consultants...

for your viewing pleasure.

http://imgur.com/a/ukjQp

Oooh that basically looks like the CBD 2 approach.

1487 · #**7830** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 12:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan

Royal Theater redevelopment clears design hurdle

Dranoff is a busy guy lately.

Philly Fan · #**7831** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 12:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1487

Dranoff is a busy guy lately.

More on this, including a rendering of the proposed project:

Panel OKs plans to demolish historic Royal Theater

Philly Fan · #**7832** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 2:29 PM**

Here's a tasty project at 24th and Walnut Streets, at the foot of the Walnut Street Bridge:

Garces test kitchen in Center City is moving forward

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The restaurant portion will seat 150 people inside with a full bar and outdoor terrace overlooking the Schuylkill.

The menu, still in development, is being designed specifically for the neighborhood as well as for businesses. (University City is just over the bridge.)

The restaurant will serve from morning through nighttime.

Cro Burnham · #**7833** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 3:07 PM**

It's amazing to me, in a bad way, that CCRA should have had a say in whether Garces opens a restaurant on a *gasp* downtown commercial street in an office building . . . particularly given that this stretch of Walnut is essentially a glorified highway on-ramp and the closest neighbors are a self-storage, a fitness center, and a freight railroad ROW.

Community groups are an essential element of civil society. But it is unfortunate they almost all get taken over by small-time power freaks driven by ego and not wider community interest.

How could CCRA been granted a say in this? Really, anyone have an idea?

1487 · #**7834** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 5:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Philly Fan

Here's a tasty project at 24th and Walnut Streets, at the foot of the Walnut Street Bridge:

Garces test kitchen in Center City is moving forward

That should easily prove to be a popular location.

Philly Fan · #**7835** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 5:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1487

That should easily prove to be a popular location.

Yep, and it should really help to further develop the connection of University City/FMC Tower/etc. with Center City.

summersm343 · #**7836** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Flyers2001

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Flyers2001, thank you for the updated! I created a thread titled "Penn Towers" for now with a tentative height of 21 floors and 325 ft. These numbers can always be changed once official info is released. The link to the thread is here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=7074000#post7074000

tsarstruck · #**7837** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 7:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cro Burnham

It's amazing to me, in a bad way, that CCRA should have had a say in whether Garces opens a restaurant on a *gasp* downtown commercial street in an office building . . . particularly given that this stretch of Walnut is essentially a glorified highway on-ramp and the closest neighbors are a self-storage, a fitness center, and a freight railroad ROW.

Community groups are an essential element of civil society. But it is unfortunate they almost all get taken over by small-time power freaks driven by ego and not wider community interest.

How could CCRA been granted a say in this? Really, anyone have an idea?

No idea why you're blaming CCRA. It needed a variance. So your outrage should be reserved for the city for the zoning code it enacted.

summersm343 · #**7838** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 7:37 PM**

New co-working firm to set up at the Piazza in Northern Liberties

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An innovative and popular co-working provider has signed a 30,000-square-foot lease at the Piazza in the Northern Liberties neighborhood of Philadelphia.

This is WeWork's first foray into Philadelphia. The New York company signed a lease at 1010 Hancock St. and hasn’t determined when it will be fully operational.

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...ing-firm-to-set-up-at-the-piazza-in.html

summersm343 · #**7839** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 7:46 PM**

Benjamin's Desk expanding to 601 Walnut St.

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Benjamin's Desk, a coworking space located on 1701 Walnut Street, will expand to a second site at 601 Walnut Street, according to a source familiar with the situation.

The company will expand to the 12th floor of the Curtis Center, the source said. Anthony Maher, the co-founder and CEO of Benjamin's Desk, was unavailable for comment Thursday.

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...jamins-desk-expanding-to-601-walnut.html

summersm343 · #**7840** Posted **Jun 24, 2015, 7:54 PM**

Philadelphia apartment developer eyes big Center City properties

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PMC Property Group is reportedly eyeing two big Center City real estate plays that would greatly expand its holdings.

The Philadelphia apartment developer is set to pay roughly $30 million for a property called River City that fronts the Schuylkill River as well as One Franklin Plaza, according to several people familiar with the matter.

The sites offer PMC Properties two different development opportunities.
Five properties make up the so-called River City site.

The River City site could accommodate up to 2.5 million square feet of new development.

It is comprised of five parcels totaling just over seven acres and is L-shaped. It consists of 60 N. 23rd St., and 2301, 2201, 2101 and 2001 John F. Kennedy Blvd.

The most appealing of the parcels is 60 N. 23rd St., which is a large surface parking lot that totals about three acres and can handle more than 600,000 square feet. The other properties would require building over SEPTA rail lines, a complicated endeavor.

The other property that PMC Property reportedly has under agreement is One Franklin Plaza, a Center City office building that once served as the headquarters for GlaxoSmithKline.

The 24-story, 607,471-square-foot tower at 200 N. 16th St. has been vacant since GSK relocated to the Philadelphia Navy Yard two years ago. Some have pegged the property trading for around $40 million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...apartment-developer-eyes-big-center.html