ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[Canguy]

Originally Posted by mikeatl77

33 Peachtree is flying in my opinion. My guess is the retail and parking garage will be open well before the tower.

That's correct.

-Precast Parking Deck will be operational in 3 weeks.
-Retail buildouts will start a month after that.
-The Precast Deck becoming operational triggers the second half of the property to become a construction zone.

[Ant131531]

So will 33 Peachtree place take the entire block because it doesn't seem like it? I know there were 2 phases: The Tower and then a 5 story apartment midrise. Is the apartment midrise on the other half of the block?

[micropundit]

Five developers have been named finalists to build a proposed major new convention hotel in downtown Atlanta.

The Georgia World Congress Center Authority on Friday selected Capella Hotel Group, Drew Co., Garfield Public-Private, Legacy Property Group/Stormont Hospitality and Matthews Southwest as finalists to build the hotel, which would have 800 to 1,200 rooms and be on the campus of the Georgia World Congress Center.The Georgia World Congress Center is the fourth-largest convention complex in North America. The hotel would be developed in a public/private joint venture and development costs are estimated to be $207 million to $245 million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/...amed-finalists-for-georgia-world.html#g2

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by scania

That area of Peachtree is not a suburb. It's not Downtown Atlanta, but it is in the city limits. This area is south of the Buckhead Atlanta on Peachtree.

You must be confusing it with something else. Lakeland Drive is to the north and surrounded by cul-de-sacs and strip malls.

Originally Posted by Ant131531

So will 33 Peachtree place take the entire block because it doesn't seem like it? I know there were 2 phases: The Tower and then a 5 story apartment midrise. Is the apartment midrise on the other half of the block?

Yes, the second phase will be on the eastern half of the block.

[clexmond]

Originally Posted by scania

That area of Peachtree is not a suburb. It's not Downtown Atlanta, but it is in the city limits. This area is south of the Buckhead Atlanta on Peachtree.

Being inside a city's limits isn't what determines whether an area is suburban or not. A significant part of Buckhead (and the city of Atlanta) is definitely suburban.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by scania

That area of Peachtree is not a suburb. It's not Downtown Atlanta, but it is in the city limits. This area is south of the Buckhead Atlanta on Peachtree.

If that's the area I'm thinking of it's a mile or so north of Buckhead village but it is pretty densely developed around there.

Again, places like this are hardly unique but they do provide some pleasant and affordable intown housing. You could probably get into one of those units for the low $100's or so. We knew an older lady who lived over there and it was perfect for her.

Seems like those options are becoming more scarce.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/50+Lak...50f6294e634a1:0x8288ad53880ca5f1!6m1!1e1

[Canguy]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

So will 33 Peachtree place take the entire block because it doesn't seem like it? I know there were 2 phases: The Tower and then a 5 story apartment midrise. Is the apartment midrise on the other half of the block?

Yes it will be the entire 4 acres. There is a wood mid rise structure that wraps around from the high rise all the way to the Precast Deck.

[mikeatl77]

Originally Posted by Canguy

Yes it will be the entire 4 acres. There is a wood mid rise structure that wraps around from the high rise all the way to the Precast Deck.

[scania]

Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

You must be confusing it with something else. Lakeland Drive is to the north and surrounded by cul-de-sacs and strip malls.

Sorry, you are correct...I was referring to another building which is on Peachtree.

[scania]

Originally Posted by clexmond

Being inside a city's limits isn't what determines whether an area is suburban or not. A significant part of Buckhead (and the city of Atlanta) is definitely suburban.

It's a matter of opinion/perception. I for one do not consider those areas in Buckhead, or Ansley Park in Midtown to be suburban. I do realize and understand that when both of these areas were initially developed, its more than likely developed in what we might consider to be a suburban mindset. But Atlanta has grown from urban downtown that was only in Downtown. It has moved up to Midtown and to Buckhead.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by scania

Sorry, you are correct...I was referring to another building which is on Peachtree.

Don't get me wrong -- nobody is going to break down and cry about some 60 year old apartments or condos being redeveloped.

But these sorts of places are a useful part of the urban fabric. In my opinion it's important for the city to offer a variety of housing options that will appeal to a broad range of residents.

[micropundit]

A 210,000-square-foot office building planned at Atlantic Station will target the startups and Fortune 500 innovation centers that have transformed Midtown Atlanta into a technology powerhouse.The $60 million project, to be developed by real estate developer Hines, will be located on a 1-acre parcel, currently a surface parking lot, near the Millennium Gate on 17th Street. The development — which will have a timber frame and be skinned with ceramic brick, steel and glass — will have the look of a warehouse-style building, but without the inefficient heating and cooling systems and poor acoustics associated with such space.

The building, referred to as “T3” for the three elements that are key to the site ­— timber, transit and technology — will include a shared rooftop amenity deck. A community lounge for tenants will double as event space. “You’ll feel like you’ve walked into a very hip hotel when you walk into this lobby,” said Hine's John Heagy.
More than 20 companies have expressed interest in the project, which is expected to open by early 2017. At capacity, T3 could accommodate up to 1,000 employees.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/print...ffice-building-will-target-startups.html

[Buck]

Originally Posted by micropundit

A 210,000-square-foot office building planned at Atlantic Station will target the startups and Fortune 500 innovation centers that have transformed Midtown Atlanta into a technology powerhouse.The $60 million project, to be developed by real estate developer Hines, will be located on a 1-acre parcel, currently a surface parking lot, near the Millennium Gate on 17th Street. The development — which will have a timber frame and be skinned with ceramic brick, steel and glass — will have the look of a warehouse-style building, but without the inefficient heating and cooling systems and poor acoustics associated with such space.

The building, referred to as “T3” for the three elements that are key to the site ­— timber, transit and technology — will include a shared rooftop amenity deck. A community lounge for tenants will double as event space. “You’ll feel like you’ve walked into a very hip hotel when you walk into this lobby,” said Hine's John Heagy.
More than 20 companies have expressed interest in the project, which is expected to open by early 2017. At capacity, T3 could accommodate up to 1,000 employees.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/print...ffice-building-will-target-startups.html

That building will have by far the nicest exterior cladding of any building in Atlantic Station... aside from the Millennium Gate and maybe the Atlantic. (Although, all three of the office towers are handsome enough.)

[Tuckerman]

Urban-suburban distinction. This is a definitional quagmire and IMO we should give up on casually naming someplace as "suburban" when it clearly has "urban" qualities. Present-day Buckhead is a good example of a city-mix that is a far cry from the Levittown's of the past. Saying it is suburban tells us very little and would provide little information about the area to someone outside of Atlanta.. It is like saying that Harlem is suburban! Of course it was, but so what in today's context of cities.

[Rail>Auto]

I still say they should gut the interior of the Georgia Dome and put the hotel inside of it in a somewhat similar way the pyramid in Memphis was done albeit a much bigger facility.

[banksee]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

Urban-suburban distinction. This is a definitional quagmire and IMO we should give up on casually naming someplace as "suburban" when it clearly has "urban" qualities. .. It is like saying that Harlem is suburban! Of course it was, but so what in today's context of cities.

I'm sure urban planners worldwide are ready to toss out the use of suburban vs urban because it's just so ambiguous. Take Harlem, with a population density near 80,000 / sq mile and Buckhead with a population density less than 3,000 per sq mile..I mean, they're practically the same! The suburban vs urban distinction would be meaningless for analysis and planning purposes. So we'll just call things urban when they feel right...the rest is just...whatever.

[TarHeelJ]

Originally Posted by banksee

I'm sure urban planners worldwide are ready to toss out the use of suburban vs urban because it's just so ambiguous. Take Harlem, with a population density near 80,000 / sq mile and Buckhead with a population density less than 3,000 per sq mile..I mean, they're practically the same! The suburban vs urban distinction would be meaningless for analysis and planning purposes. So we'll just call things urban when they feel right...the rest is just...whatever.

Nobody remotely said that Harlem and Buckhead are practically the same - those are your words. It's pretty easy to follow what Tuckerman said...suburban and urban can't be as narrowly defined today as they were in the past due to areas like Buckhead, which is obviously a mix of urban and suburban.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

AMLI Arts Center Land Dev. Permit has approval (pending final arborist review)

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by clexmond

Being inside a city's limits isn't what determines whether an area is suburban or not. A significant part of Buckhead (and the city of Atlanta) is definitely suburban.

I would imagine that part of Buckhead is more densely populated than a lot of the eastside neighborhoods like Reynoldstown, Kirkwood, Candler Park, Decatur, etc.

However, population density and being within the city limits are certainly not the only factors in what constitutes urban vs. suburban. I think you have to look at proximity to commercial districts, healthcare, public transit and other typical urban services.

[tdawg]

Anyone know if 98 14th Street is dead? It's my favorite proposal in the city and it seems like the developers are missing the opportunity to capitalize on Midtown's explosive growth.