Calgary International Airport II - Page 161

Bigtime · #**3201** Posted **May 21, 2015, 2:18 PM**

With the demise of the Airdrie Airshow due to runway 17L/35R things are shifting over to Springbank this year:

http://wingsoverspringbank.com/

Pretty good lineup of performers, and the static display shows promise with both a B-25 and B-17 scheduled to be there.

lubicon · #**3202** Posted **May 21, 2015, 6:32 PM**

That should be a good show.
The weekend prior to my vacation, and the day(s) I would be out getting the RV ready. That may or may not be feasible now if traffic is going to be a shit show around the airport. On the other hand I could sit on the roof and get a great view, for free.

#**3203** Posted **May 22, 2015, 12:07 AM**

Wow, great lineup on that Springbank show. Snowbirds + CF-18 is all I need, personally. Definitely try to make it down.

Bokimon · #**3204** Posted **May 22, 2015, 2:48 PM**

We in western Canada are lucky to have a few solid airshows this summer. Mainly Springbank and Abbotsford.
I wonder if Lethbridge airshow is still happening as well or did the organizers finally go bust?

Surrealplaces · #**3205** Posted **May 22, 2015, 3:28 PM**

I remember going to the Springbank airshow when I was a kid. It was a good lineup with the Snowbirds and the Thunderbirds among others.

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

With the demise of the Airdrie Airshow due to runway 17L/35R things are shifting over to Springbank this year:

http://wingsoverspringbank.com/

Pretty good lineup of performers, and the static display shows promise with both a B-25 and B-17 scheduled to be there.

cyeg66 · #**3206** Posted **May 22, 2015, 6:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bigtime

With the demise of the Airdrie Airshow due to runway 17L/35R things are shifting over to Springbank this year:

http://wingsoverspringbank.com/

Pretty good lineup of performers, and the static display shows promise with both a B-25 and B-17 scheduled to be there.

Should be a pretty good show. Hopefully it's as good or better than Airdrie's. I think a couple of our ops guys are having a powwow with the airshow organizers soon to see how things will run. Undoubtedly some planes will be staged to/from YYC. Hopefully those bombers get their feet up in the air a little bit, too.

YYCguys · #**3207** Posted **May 23, 2015, 10:09 PM**

This morning, a Cathay Pacific 748 took off north and west out of YYC. Was it passenger service or cargo? I didn't think Cathay flew out of YYC.

Coldrsx · #**3208** Posted **May 23, 2015, 10:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bokimon

We in western Canada are lucky to have a few solid airshows this summer. Mainly Springbank and Abbotsford.
I wonder if Lethbridge airshow is still happening as well or did the organizers finally go bust?

Villeneuve just outside of Edmonton is having it's inaugural show this year.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/edmo...eturns+Edmonton+area/10998572/story.html

J-D · #**3209** Posted **May 23, 2015, 10:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by YYCguys

This morning, a Cathay Pacific 748 took off north and west out of YYC. Was it passenger service or cargo? I didn't think Cathay flew out of YYC.

Would have been Cargo. I think they come here once or twice a week.

#**3210** Posted **May 23, 2015, 10:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by YYCguys

This morning, a Cathay Pacific 748 took off north and west out of YYC. Was it passenger service or cargo? I didn't think Cathay flew out of YYC.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1622111/massive-cargo-plane-touches-down-at-yyc-for-first-time/

cyeg66 · #**3211** Posted **May 28, 2015, 12:10 AM**

April out:

http://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/factsfigures/passengerstatistics.aspx

Not surprising here.

Overall: -2.3%
Domestic (-3%) and Transborder (-6%) taking a beating. Int'l up (+11%) to offset the drop in traffic a little.

Hot Rod · #**3212** Posted **May 28, 2015, 5:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

In very general terms, yes, but according to the Globalization and World Cities Research Network (GaWC), most of the major Canadian cities are subdivided even further into different categories.

http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2012t.html

Toronto is an Alpha city.
Montreal is a Beta +
Vancouver is a Beta
Calgary is a Beta -
Ottawa and Edmonton are high sufficiency cities.
Halifax and Winnipeg are sufficiency cities.

The following is a general guide to the rankings.

Alpha and Alpha- cities are cities that link major economic regions into the world economy.
Beta level cities are cities that link moderate economic regions into the world economy.
Gamma level cities are cities that link smaller economic regions into the world economy. (Canada has no Gamma cities)
Sufficiency level cities are cities that have a sufficient degree of services so as not to be obviously dependent on world cities.

And the population numbers, one of the aspects that determines where a city is located, corroborate this as well.

Toronto just hit a metro area population of 6 million.
YUL also just hit 4 million this year.
YVR is 2.3 million (2011)
YYC is 1.2 million. (2011)

All four are in different brackets and are quite far from catching up to the next bigger city. Just like Toronto is far from catching up to Alpha + or ++ cities such as NY, London, Paris or Hong Kong.

Another study done by the Chicago consulting firm A.T Kearney in 2014 lists a global cities index (GCI), ranking cities from 1 to 42 based on a rating of business activity, human capital, information exchange, cultural experience and political engagement. Basically they measured how globally engaged a city is and they used 26 metrics to get there. Now i admit, some of these metrics are secondary, such as richness and quality of culinary offering, but still, it helps to paint the whole picture.

http://www.atkearney.com/documents/10192...pdf/3628fd7d-70be-41bf-99d6-4c8eaf984cd5

Page 4. Figure 2.

NYC is #1, with a rating of 61.7
Toronto is # 13 with a rating of 32.4
Montreal comes in at # 30 with 25.4, so not that far off from Toronto, and ahead of cities like Zurich, Rome, Sao Paulo, Mexico City and Atlanta.
Vancouver is not on the list.

So once again, Toronto is ahead of the pack, yes, but Montreal is firmly in second place, Vancouver a distant third, and then all the rest.

not to bring up past history, but Vancouver IS on the list at 48 (see page 5 of the survey). This is the first ranking for Van City and it is ahead of notables such as Dallas, OSAKA!!!, Rio, Lima. ...

Also, special plug going out to Chongqing China at 84 (not sure why it has fallen from as high as 55 in past years). For those who don't know this city, this will likely rival Beijing and Shanghai very soon with its development as the anchor national city for Interior/Western China (it is the only direct city in the interior, like BJ, SH, and TJ). Looks quite similar in appearance to Vancouver with a Manhattan peninsula with mountain backdrops but with supertalls. Strongly see this city rising into the top 30s within the next few years, ditto Vancouver as it becomes more mature.

Bigtime · #**3213** Posted **May 28, 2015, 1:45 PM**

A Qatar Airways Cargo 777 snuck in last night from AMS, apparently carrying horses for Spruce Meadows. It left early this morning for LAX.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR8177/history/20150528/0720Z/CYYC/KLAX

We got this flight last year too, just in daylight.

Cage · #**3214** Posted **May 28, 2015, 4:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by cyeg66

April out:

http://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/factsfigures/passengerstatistics.aspx

Not surprising here.

Overall: -2.3%
Domestic (-3%) and Transborder (-6%) taking a beating. Int'l up (+11%) to offset the drop in traffic a little.

Correct not surprising. April 2014 was a blow out for YYC, especially transborder. April 2015 is still higher than April 2013.

Bokimon · #**3215** Posted **May 28, 2015, 6:06 PM**

Still I think a pretty decent performance for April, especially compared to 2009 lol!
As long as the dips don't fall into double digit percentages, these are just small bumps which can be made up in the summer months.. (hopefully)

Good seeing Qatar visiting again, I hope more of these cargo flights come as I need to check it out myself. The Apron9 seems to offer some great photo opportunities for parked heavies as per the yyc spotters fb group.

thenoflyzone · #**3216** Posted **May 28, 2015, 6:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod

not to bring up past history, but Vancouver IS on the list at 48 (see page 5 of the survey).

My bad. Never saw that second page for some reason.

lubicon · #**3217** Posted **May 28, 2015, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bokimon

Still I think a pretty decent performance for April, especially compared to 2009 lol!
As long as the dips don't fall into double digit percentages, these are just small bumps which can be made up in the summer months.. (hopefully)

Good seeing Qatar visiting again, I hope more of these cargo flights come as I need to check it out myself. The Apron9 seems to offer some great photo opportunities for parked heavies as per the yyc spotters fb group.

I wouldn't bet on it. This year is going to be a down year for traffic, the only question is how much. If the decrease stays around where it is (2-3%) I would consider it good year all things considered. The economy here has taken a pretty big hit and I think the magnitude of that is just starting to be felt.

thenoflyzone · #**3218** Posted **May 28, 2015, 6:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bokimon

these are just small bumps which can be made up in the summer months.. (hopefully).

Doubt it. The monthly trend seems to suggest otherwise. Traffic went from +2.3% in January to -2.3% in April. I think it will get a bit worse before it gets better. Still better than YEG though. At least YYC has a YTD positive growth of 0.2%.

#**3219** Posted **May 29, 2015, 12:16 PM**

For what I suspect is the first time ever, two scheduled Air Canada heavy jets are enroute to Calgary from Tokyo. Today AC2 NRT-YYC is routing NRT-YYC-YYZ as AC2/AC1148, for reasons I never quite figured out. 777-300ER equipment. The flight will land just before 1 pm.

The regularly scheduled NRT-YYC service, AC10, will land mid-morning as usual, around 10:40.

Bigtime · #**3220** Posted **May 29, 2015, 12:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

For what I suspect is the first time ever, two scheduled Air Canada heavy jets are enroute to Calgary from Tokyo. Today AC2 NRT-YYC is routing NRT-YYC-YYZ as AC2/AC1148, for reasons I never quite figured out. 777-300ER equipment. The flight will land just before 1 pm.

The regularly scheduled NRT-YYC service, AC10, will land mid-morning as usual, around 10:40.

I thought the reason for this was some sort of switch up with YYZ ops, so they ended up operating this one-off to YYC today as well.

Either way I hope the 35's are active so I can see her.