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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 8:36 PM
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I haven't spent any time in the Navy Yard (why the F*^k would you unless you work there) - from a design standpoint, does the whole complex function effectively the same way as a suburban office park? Is there are any soul or charm to it?
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 9:38 PM
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I haven't spent any time in the Navy Yard (why the F*^k would you unless you work there) - from a design standpoint, does the whole complex function effectively the same way as a suburban office park? Is there are any soul or charm to it?
Oh god here we go again That headline shoulder have read: "WuXi AppTech Not Fleeing The City For The Suburbs"
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 12:20 AM
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I haven't spent any time in the Navy Yard (why the F*^k would you unless you work there) - from a design standpoint, does the whole complex function effectively the same way as a suburban office park? Is there are any soul or charm to it?
I really enjoy riding my bike around down there. It's quite charming in my opinion. Nice places to grab a park bench and look out over the Delaware river.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 1:11 AM
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Cheesecake Factory sets its opening in Center City

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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 1:53 AM
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I haven't spent any time in the Navy Yard (why the F*^k would you unless you work there) - from a design standpoint, does the whole complex function effectively the same way as a suburban office park? Is there are any soul or charm to it?
Not only do I think it does, it doesn't matter regardless. The Navy Yard is doing its job, keeping jobs in Philly and not the suburbs and in a lot of cases, moving them from the suburbs to here. But yeah, I enjoy that area a lot whenever I'm there. Very modern and has some nice scenery.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 2:42 AM
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Not only do I think it does, it doesn't matter regardless. The Navy Yard is doing its job, keeping jobs in Philly and not the suburbs and in a lot of cases, moving them from the suburbs to here. But yeah, I enjoy that area a lot whenever I'm there. Very modern and has some nice scenery.
Yes it does, it supports a major shipyard(Aker), many marine related industries, it's on the point where the Schuylkill River meets the Delaware River, it has many wonderfully overbuilt late 19th early 20th c. shipyard buildings executed in a red stone quarried in Conn., with rapid access to many parts of Philadelphia and Sports arenas, history as the first Navy Yard in the US(moved here in 1876 from a yard founded in 1801 further up the Delaware) and the building of many famous ships, if they ever built a residential section and I was 20 years younger I would live there . I love it , it is a world unto its self!
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 2:48 AM
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My solution for the Vine Street Expressway is to rezone both sides of Vine Street to make it easy for developers to build here. Remove height limits (realistically, no one is going to pitch 1000 footers here), FAR requirements, parking ratios, and all the other crap that developers fight over in their variance requests. Also, eliminate the million and one committees that review a typical project so as to expedite the process.

Let's face it, Vine Street is not attractive, it's not historic, and it's never going to be a quiet, pleasant-to-walk-on street, so why bother trying? If developers want to line the street with towers on parking podiums with no retail or other street level pleasantries, it would still be 1000x better than what's there now. And with the expressway right there, autocentric highrises would be attractive to many buyers who want to be in the city, but also need easy access to the burbs (this is the lure of buyers to Waterfront Square).

Rather then spending money to cap the expressway, this solution would cost the city nothing. Just takes innovative thinking and political will.

Regarding the Parkway, it's a clusterfk and there is no intuitive way for pedestrians to go from the Art Museum steps to Logan Circle/Love Park. Maybe about once or twice a year I find myself on the Parkway and always wind up in spots where the sidewalk just ends and I have to dodge speeding cars to get to where I'm going. It's not never a pleasant experience at all.
I agree mostly regarding the VSE, but I'd take it a step further. Yes, no one cares about noise and height restrictions (I live here, anytime someone pitches a fit they're from five blocks north or a completely different neighborhood). I would love to see the VSE lined with high rise apartments, and offices if corporations want to join the party.

But I don't think its walkability is doomed, and I think lining it with parking podiums would undue a lot of the mental integration between Center City and Callowhill. It's not great, but it's got more potential than some think.

The VSE was created to alleviate traffic on Vine Street, but Vine's surface street was widened with the VSE's construction. In seven years living on Vine Street I've never once seen all its lanes backed up. For some reason (I have no idea why), NJ commuters tend to use Race Street.

Even if they were pushed to Vine (and they should be), adding better street parking, maybe even eliminating a traffic lane for parking, would really boost the pedestrian morale of Vine Street. Right now it's a highway, and it shouldn't be.

Other than that, bring on the high-rises.
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The Dalian, while not a tall building, will fill in nicely based upon the view and angle of this photo.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 7:18 AM
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I haven't spent any time in the Navy Yard (why the F*^k would you unless you work there) - from a design standpoint, does the whole complex function effectively the same way as a suburban office park? Is there are any soul or charm to it?
Ugh. Please just stop. You're commenting on an area you've declared you've never been to yet want to hate all over it.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 11:51 AM
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A development like THIS in Strawberry Mansion!?!?!? WOW! To me, this is even bigger news than the CITC!!!! CRAZY! Strawberry mansion's close proximity to a highly used park and brewerytown makes it such a great location. Here's hoping more and more start coming!!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...ing-lined-up-for-strawberry-mansion.html
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The Dalian, while not a tall building, will fill in nicely based upon the view and angle of this photo.
Second crane going up at The Dalian.
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A development like THIS in Strawberry Mansion!?!?!? WOW! To me, this is even bigger news than the CITC!!!! CRAZY! Strawberry mansion's close proximity to a highly used park and brewerytown makes it such a great location. Here's hoping more and more start coming!!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...ing-lined-up-for-strawberry-mansion.html
It's great to see, sure, but at the end of the day it's an $8m development. The CITC is about 150 times the cost and will likely have 150 times the impact.
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It's great to see, sure, but at the end of the day it's an $8m development. The CITC is about 150 times the cost and will likely have 150 times the impact.
It's more a matter of where the money is going. Strawberry Mansion hasn't seen significant private investment since the before the Second World War. This is the same reason that I am more excited about East Market than CTIC. Something was going to get built there eventually it was just a matter of time.
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Is your friend 85 years old, drives a 79 lincoln and always parks DIRECTLY on fairmount ave despite the fact that there is an adjacent shoulder?
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 3:24 PM
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Parker Spruce Hotel

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Good to see this get sold for renovations.
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A development like THIS in Strawberry Mansion!?!?!? WOW! To me, this is even bigger news than the CITC!!!! CRAZY! Strawberry mansion's close proximity to a highly used park and brewerytown makes it such a great location. Here's hoping more and more start coming!!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...ing-lined-up-for-strawberry-mansion.html
I agree this is interesting news. I admittedly haven't paid that much attention to Brewerytown, so I had no idea it was already affecting Strawberry Mansion. What's especially interesting to me is the location's inconvenience to getting to and from Center City. I say that because when I or others bring up Camden's proximity to Center City and its jobs, some people ask why anyone would move to Camden given Northern Liberties, Fishtown, and other neighborhoods along the El or Subway. But looking at transit between Strawberry Mansion and Center City, it's double my commute from Collingswood, let alone from Camden. So, I dunno, just something interesting to notice for me.
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 3:55 PM
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A development like THIS in Strawberry Mansion!?!?!? WOW! To me, this is even bigger news than the CITC!!!! CRAZY! Strawberry mansion's close proximity to a highly used park and brewerytown makes it such a great location. Here's hoping more and more start coming!!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...ing-lined-up-for-strawberry-mansion.html
Theres some sort of govt financing involved here
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Old Posted Apr 30, 2015, 3:56 PM
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Parker Spruce Hotel

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/.../04/derelict-center-city-hotel-sold.html

Good to see this get sold for renovations.
The buyer has controlled the hotel for years and ran it that way. I wouldnt be so sure that it will be really upgraded soon.
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I agree this is interesting news. I admittedly haven't paid that much attention to Brewerytown, so I had no idea it was already affecting Strawberry Mansion. What's especially interesting to me is the location's inconvenience to getting to and from Center City. I say that because when I or others bring up Camden's proximity to Center City and its jobs, some people ask why anyone would move to Camden given Northern Liberties, Fishtown, and other neighborhoods along the El or Subway. But looking at transit between Strawberry Mansion and Center City, it's double my commute from Collingswood, let alone from Camden. So, I dunno, just something interesting to notice for me.
CC isn't the end all be all to everyone.

in btown you're right on the park and can get to city ave, conshy etc fairly easily along with CC
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