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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 3:19 AM
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Wow that RioCan tower will realllly add some height to the EV. Pulse will be the tallest in the EV by a wide margin at this point, at 107 meters... but the EB Riocan tower will be nearly 40 meters taller!
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 4:25 AM
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Would it be possible to have the name of this thread changed to "The East Village Thread" or "Calgary's East Village"? As it's no longer just a rejuvenation plan, it's an incipient megaproject with nearly a dozen projects already on the go.




Found a funny comment from the first page of this thread. It's really great to see where this idea has come to between 2009 and now, and glad to see that this guys' perception of the idea was incorrect

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Pardon me for being skeptical, but I won't believe it until its finished. I think the main issue is that this has to be all built at once in order for it to actually happen. Otherwise, in 10 years time, there's going to be one or two buildings built and then a new East Village concept coming out.

Otherwise this project looks awesome! Seems in feel like our Yaletown.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 2:25 PM
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Activity at Verve this morning
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I got you covered dude:

In my dreams I always hoped East Village would be a Paris-like midrise utopia. Too bad it's not playing out that way, and yes I understand it has a lot to do with land value, economics, and all sorts of other equations I'm not familiar with.

That being said I'm still quite excited to see the neighbourhood continue to build out, and that sales centre now needs a model for the Great Gulf site.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2015, 2:58 PM
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Aaron, which site is the Great Gulf?
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Aaron, which site is the Great Gulf?
What was once the Riverfront Pointe phase III site, that 'L' shaped parking lot on the bottom right of your picture.
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In my dreams I always hoped East Village would be a Paris-like midrise utopia. Too bad it's not playing out that way, and yes I understand it has a lot to do with land value, economics, and all sorts of other equations I'm not familiar with.

That being said I'm still quite excited to see the neighbourhood continue to build out, and that sales centre now needs a model for the Great Gulf site.
My concern is that standing in the middle of the east village will feel like standing in west end, lots of tall gated communities, not much happening.
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My concern is that standing in the middle of the east village will feel like standing in west end, lots of tall gated communities, not much happening.
I can understand the fear, but there is already more happening in the East Village than in the West End: Simmon's, Fort Calgary, St. Patrick's, Riverwalk, NMC, NCL...

I hope the developers don't drop the ball when it comes to public amenities, street frontages and mixed use but I'm fairly confident that standing in the middle of this end of downtown is going to be a whole lot better than what we've got so far on the west side.
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Activity at Verve this morning
Is that actually related to Verve or just staging area activity like has been going on for years. Disappointed in F&S, Verve launched a couple years ago and still nothing.
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Yup there will be millions of sf of retail and cultural space , and unparalleled amount of public realm investment in the neighbourhood. The Riff alone should keep the neighbourhood buzzing.
RioCan's adding another 200,000sf of retail in their upcoming project. I noticed even Evolution and First include some very nicely designed retail bays.

West End was built when the city was just starting to experiment with urban living. The city is brainstorming ideas to make it more-mixed-use/lively. My hope is that West End doesn't even look like West End in 5-10 yrs.

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I can understand the fear, but there is already more happening in the East Village than in the West End: Simmon's, Fort Calgary, St. Patrick's, Riverwalk, NMC, NCL...

I hope the developers don't drop the ball when it comes to public amenities, street frontages and mixed use but I'm fairly confident that standing in the middle of this end of downtown is going to be a whole lot better than what we've got so far on the west side.
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Yup there will be millions of sf of retail and cultural space , and unparalleled amount of public realm investment in the neighbourhood. The Riff alone should keep the neighbourhood buzzing.
RioCan's adding another 200,000sf of retail in their upcoming project. I noticed even Evolution and First include some very nicely designed retail bays.

West End was built when the city was just starting to experiment with urban living. The city is brainstorming ideas to make it more-mixed-use/lively. My hope is that West End doesn't even look like West End in 5-10 yrs.
Important difference is that the West End wholy sacrificed it's vitality and pedestrian-friendliness to the all-mighty suburban car commuter. It is bisected and surrounded by 4th, 5th, 6th and 9th Avenues of high-speed, high volume commuter routes that make a pedestrian-friendly-anything next to impossible.

East Village will suffer nothing of the sort, not to mention it has light-years better provisions for the public realm as you mentioned.

I just wish we could retrofit existing dense communities with the type of streets that encourage this **cough, cough looking at you, Beltline**.
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In my dreams I always hoped East Village would be a Paris-like midrise utopia. Too bad it's not playing out that way, and yes I understand it has a lot to do with land value, economics, and all sorts of other equations I'm not familiar with.

That being said I'm still quite excited to see the neighbourhood continue to build out, and that sales centre now needs a model for the Great Gulf site.
I can actually see Bridgeland turning out that way so your dream may not be dead.
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I can actually see Bridgeland turning out that way so your dream may not be dead.
Bridgeland/Kensington/Mission/Inglewood all have potential to become very solid midrise districts. Not quite like Paris though, that would require all midrise.
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Wonder if 10th ave in Sunalta could also end up a midrise district...or maybe even partially highrise
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Yup there will be millions of sf of retail and cultural space , and unparalleled amount of public realm investment in the neighbourhood. The Riff alone should keep the neighbourhood buzzing.
RioCan's adding another 200,000sf of retail in their upcoming project. I noticed even Evolution and First include some very nicely designed retail bays.

West End was built when the city was just starting to experiment with urban living. The city is brainstorming ideas to make it more-mixed-use/lively. My hope is that West End doesn't even look like West End in 5-10 yrs.
Yeah I guess The Riff will be the key
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The West tower of the Rio-Can project makes Pulse look like a mid-rise.

A few more models need building like the library, the Hat and the Great Gulf project.
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The West tower of the Rio-Can project makes Pulse look like a mid-rise.

A few more models need building like the library, the Hat and the Great Gulf project.
The 'model guy' is quite backed up. Trust me I asked..lol
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Yeah I guess The Riff will be the key
That and the river will help.
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^ Not to mention the new library and NMC drawing people to the area.

That model really illustrates how big the RioCan development will be .. What an impact it will make, particularly beside the flyover
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Here's where The Rift starts. I don't think anyone has purchased the land yet on this block yet? Think the orange buildings represent CMLC-owned land but not sold to developers.

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