AUSTIN | Project Updates Thread Part II - Page 97

JoninATX · #**1921** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Syndic

Okay, I heard back from my friend. She said it's going to be "on Cesar Chavez next to the Power Plant" and "will not just be Facebook but will include other tenants" and that it's "supposed to be super tall". Sounds like Block 185 to me.

However many fit on the 10th floor of the Comerica building. They lease that whole floor, I think. Maybe 175-225? I would think they play on adding more with this new development.

Great news Syndic! But I wonder where the tower would go since the power plant is already surrounded by development. I can't wait for more details!

The ATX · #**1922** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 6:22 PM**

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Great news Syndic! But I wonder where the tower would go since the power plant is already surrounded by development. I can't wait for more details!

This means Green Water Residential #2 would be Green Water Office #2.

Syndic · #**1923** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hill Country

This means Green Water Residential #2 would be Green Water Office #2.

Well, it could be a mix of office, hotel, and residental. Isn't that what Northshore is?

Jon, my friend doesn't know much about the area. When she said "next to" I'm sure she meant "near"; i.e. Green Water block 185.

LoneStarMike · #**1924** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 6:57 PM**

Damn - we should have told you to ask what architectural firm she works for. I didn't think of it yesterday when I saw your initial post.

wwmiv · #**1925** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Syndic

Okay, I heard back from my friend. She said it's going to be "on Cesar Chavez next to the Power Plant" and "will not just be Facebook but will include other tenants" and that it's "supposed to be super tall". Sounds like Block 185 to me.

However many fit on the 10th floor of the Comerica building. They lease that whole floor, I think. Maybe 175-225? I would think they play on adding more with this new development.

Super tall? For someone who really doesn't know high-rises (I'm assuming here), something like 400 feet would be super tall so let's not get our hopes up. Besides, doesn't the waterfront overlay prevent something from being especially tall on lot 185?

wwmiv · #**1926** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 7:13 PM**

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The ATX · #**1927** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 7:18 PM**

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I'm of the opinion that 185 will still be residential and this is probably another lot nearby, such as the portion of the courthouse block that is predicted to have private development.

I was basing my opinion on this quote from Syndic's post: "on Cesar Chavez next to the Power Plant".

wwmiv · #**1928** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 7:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hill Country

I was basing my opinion on this quote from Syndic's post: "on Cesar Chavez next to the Power Plant".

Ohhhhh. It did say Cesar Chavez, didn't it?

Ugh. Well... I guess Block 185 is probably it then, I just don't expect it to be more than 450 feet.

Syndic · #**1929** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 8:02 PM**

Yeah, to my friend, 450 ft would probably be considered super tall but I'm betting the phrase "super tall" was used by her architect friend, which might give it a different meaning than how my friend might use it. But re: height overlays, isn't this usually gotten around by having a podium or setback or whatever? Northshore isn't exactly short. I don't think a building taller than Northshore is out of the question.

GoldenBoot · #**1930** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 11:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Syndic

Yeah, to my friend, 450 ft would probably be considered super tall but I'm betting the phrase "super tall" was used by her architect friend, which might give it a different meaning than how my friend might use it. But re: height overlays, isn't this usually gotten around by having a podium or setback or whatever? Northshore isn't exactly short. I don't think a building taller than Northshore is out of the question.

I hope not. But, the way Trammell is developing the site seems to be that every tower in this grouping is going to be around 400'. Why? I have no clue.

I think if 500 West Second was 100' taller it would make for a much more interesting grouping of towers (since Austin Proper will be about 400'). Or if the Northshore was 100' taller than 500 West Second and Austin Proper was either 50' taller or shorter than 500 West...In any case, some differential in heights would, to me, be much more interesting than what is being developed.

wwmiv · #**1931** Posted **Apr 19, 2015, 11:39 PM**

I agree. I hope this one is taller, but am not expecting it.

LoneStarMike · #**1932** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 1:17 AM**

Does anyone know what this project is? It looks like it's over in the Plaza Saltillo area and you can definitely see the Hilton & Frost Tower in the background.

Forge Craft Architecture

It just says mixed use project - coming 2016.

Tech House · #**1933** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 5:40 AM**

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...if 500 West Second was 100' taller... Or if the Northshore was 100' taller than 500 West Second and Austin Proper was either 50' taller or shorter than 500 West...

Uhhh..... umm....... uhhh...... Is this, like, one of those new Common Core problems?

- Butthead

drummer · #**1934** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 6:05 AM**

Awesome to hear! Thanks for the info, Syndic! Keep it coming. Give her a cash handshake for a look at any plans for us, too.

JoninATX · #**1935** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 7:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by Syndic

Well, it could be a mix of office, hotel, and residental. Isn't that what Northshore is?

Jon, my friend doesn't know much about the area. When she said "next to" I'm sure she meant "near"; i.e. Green Water block 185.

Thanks Syndic, I'm anxiously waiting for new updates.

LoneStarMike · #**1936** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 4:54 PM**

Live Feed showing construction progress for Lamar Central at 3800 N Lamar. Their website says it should be completed by October.

AusTxDevelopment · #**1937** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 7:04 PM**

The name of this photo on Forge Craft Architects website is "Chicon1_r2_...." so it's definitely East Austin. Chicon Street is a little further east than the Plaza Saltillo redevelopment but it's close, and Chicon crosses East 6th where all the development is happening.

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Originally Posted by LoneStarMike

Does anyone know what this project is? It looks like it's over in the Plaza Saltillo area and you can definitely see the Hilton & Frost Tower in the background.

Forge Craft Architecture

It just says mixed use project - coming 2016.

corvairkeith · #**1938** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 7:25 PM**

I'm thinking 4th and Chicon since it looks to be South of Frost and the Hilton in the rendering.

LoneStarMike · #**1939** Posted **Apr 20, 2015, 8:06 PM**

OK, thanks. Maybe it's this project at 411 Chicon.

City leaders may push to develop yet another site in Central East Austin
Austin Business Journal
Jun 24, 2014

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Austin City Council is considering turning a city-owned, East Austin parcel just a few blocks east of the Plaza Saltillo MetroRail station into Austin's next transit-oriented housing hub.

The site, at 411 Chicon St. and across Fourth Street from the Oswaldo A.B. Cantu/ Pan American Recreation Center, consists of 5.18 acres the city currently uses for a warehouse, offices and vehicle parking. If Council passes a resolution at its June 26 meeting, the city could move to develop the site in a way similar to the contest that just concluded for the 11-acre Plaza Saltillo redevelopment just blocks to the east, though the city is keeping all options open at this point.

scraperwill · #**1940** Posted **Apr 21, 2015, 2:33 PM**

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It's bigger than Phoenix and Atlanta, yes. Warren (the one outside of Detroit) is still bigger or so I'm told (I've not been there).

GM bought the old Dell bldg just to the north of Parmer 3.2. They did not buy the new 3.2 bldg.