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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 4:08 PM
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Like Ottawa it's really flat. There are some ravines, but not many of them are all that accessible by foot or visible in most skyline pics. There's some reasonably nice stuff, but nothing dramatic. It's almost a Prairie City.
I wouldn't really agree with that. Within walking distance from the downtown there's the Don Valley/Rosedale Valley. And as for nothing dramatic it has physical features like the Scarborough Bluffs within its city limits.

Those aren't immediately visible in the typical skyline shot from the lake, but again those just highlight that it's a waterfront city, not just on some river in the middle of flat land.

I'm not saying it's amazing by any means, but it doesn't get as much credit as it should.
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I wouldn't really agree with that. Within walking distance from the downtown there's the Don Valley/Rosedale Valley. And as for nothing dramatic it has physical features like the Scarborough Bluffs within its city limits.

Those aren't immediately visible in the typical skyline shot from the lake, but again those just highlight that it's a waterfront city, not just on some river in the middle of flat land.

I'm not saying it's amazing by any means, but it doesn't get as much credit as it should.
Near the downtown the Don Valley is a very gradual slop dominated by a highway in the middle. It's as impressive as the slight valley thing that separates Westdale from the rest of Hamilton which holds the Chedoke Expressway. It's not ugly, but it's not really impressive. The Scarborough Bluffs meanwhile are out in Scarborough and not that big. Nice, but they're a nice local park not really a province wide attraction or anything.

Toronto has some nice stuff, but it lacks anything truly impressive in natural form. It makes up for that with skyline though.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 4:47 PM
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Toronto's relatively flat, but still manages to have some pretty decent elevation changes. Much more so than most prairie cities or a lakefront city like Chicago. The former lakeshore running along Davenport is a bigger hill than you would think. The Mount Dennis / Earslcourt neighbourhoods have some pretty big hills, as does High Park. The drop between Upper and Lower Beaches is fairly dramatic.

Nothing you would consider an impressive landform, but it's not flat. I would be happy to take anyone on a bike ride to prove this point
     
     
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In Toronto it's pretty obvious which way is south because the streets has an easily observed downwards slope. Gradual but still easy to detect. There's about a 200 ft drop from Bloor to the lake if memory serves me correct.
     
     
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That pic makes Calgary look like a waterfront city lol.
     
     
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Toronto's relatively flat, but still manages to have some pretty decent elevation changes. Much more so than most prairie cities or a lakefront city like Chicago. The former lakeshore running along Davenport is a bigger hill than you would think. The Mount Dennis / Earslcourt neighbourhoods have some pretty big hills, as does High Park. The drop between Upper and Lower Beaches is fairly dramatic.

Nothing you would consider an impressive landform, but it's not flat. I would be happy to take anyone on a bike ride to prove this point
Flat and level aren't the same thing. Toronto is pretty flat, but a wall or a cliff can be flat. Toronto is a tilted plane (mostly).

Hamilton meanwhile isn't flat but is pretty level with a cliff between two areas of minimal elevation of change.
     
     
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Flat and level aren't the same thing. Toronto is pretty flat, but a wall or a cliff can be flat. Toronto is a tilted plane (mostly).

Hamilton meanwhile isn't flat but is pretty level with a cliff between two areas of minimal elevation of change.

No, we are on the same page. There are plenty of ups and downs in certain areas - I'm not talking about the ravines either. It's not what I would call significant by any stretch, but there it's not as simple as a gentle slope up from the lake. There are a few of neighbourhoods that are downright hilly, and this is coming from someone who grew up in Calgary! Granted, part of this is because older areas simply built over hills without giving much thought to terrain. Areas around Rogers Road and Caledonia even have streets separated by staircases. This is super off-topic but a few examples, keeping in mind that the wide angle of street view makes the grade look more gradual than it is:

http://goo.gl/maps/R2x5a
http://goo.gl/maps/Yb5gA
http://goo.gl/maps/sBw1q
http://goo.gl/maps/eEao1
http://goo.gl/maps/Pstbr
http://goo.gl/maps/EAyU8
http://goo.gl/maps/UbCP8
http://goo.gl/maps/3ppqu
http://goo.gl/maps/PoL1C
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Toronto is definitely not flat. It's a bit of a rolling city with constant but gentle ups and downs.

What Canadian cities are flat as a pancake? I know Windsor is, as is everything in Southwestern Ontario past London. Winnipeg?

Richmond is the only thing remotely flat in BC. Not only is it flat, it's also below sea level!
     
     
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Toronto is definitely not flat. It's a bit of a rolling city with constant but gentle ups and downs.

What Canadian cities are flat as a pancake? I know Windsor is, as is everything in Southwestern Ontario past London. Winnipeg?

Richmond is the only thing remotely flat in BC. Not only is it flat, it's also below sea level!
Winnipeg is so flat that they turned a garbage dump into a hill just so they could have a hill.

There is precisely one stretch of road in Winnipeg with a very gentle grade that you notice because you're in Winnipeg. It's in St. Boniface, but I can't remember which street it is. I only went there once, and recall being astonished by it!
     
     
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Winnipeg and Regina are both incredibly flat. But southern Manitoba is probably the flattest part of the country.
     
     
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Winnipeg, Ottawa, Regina, Saskatoon, Moncton, Windsor, and London are all relatively flat cities, all with well under 100 meters elevation difference across the respective cities.
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Edmonton's relatively flat too away from the river valley. Most of the north side of the city is prairie like in terms of flatness. But the valley itself has some massive cliffs. Lots of ravines though, especially on the south side, with a couple of nice creeks. It's more dippy than hilly like Calgary is.
     
     
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Toronto is definitely not flat. It's a bit of a rolling city with constant but gentle ups and downs.

What Canadian cities are flat as a pancake? I know Windsor is, as is everything in Southwestern Ontario past London. Winnipeg?

Richmond is the only thing remotely flat in BC. Not only is it flat, it's also below sea level!
Richmond ranges between 0 meters and 12 meters, at no point is it below sea level.

That being said it must have the smallest elevation change for any city in Canada 912 meters).

If that is true, ironic to be in BC.
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