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Old Posted Apr 2, 2015, 11:40 PM
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People don't like long commutes. Heavy industry builds new cities about as often as cities build new heavy industry.
Sure but try telling that to people who have to wipe soot off their lawn furniture, car, etc. every morning. It's not terribly civilised...
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 12:10 AM
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The Beltine is fast becoming Calgary´s Weste End.

It doesn´t look as big from most skyline views because of the huge dominance of large and tall office towers downtown. Vancouver´s residential areas look huge because they asre not short buildings in comparison to the downtown office buildings.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 12:23 AM
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The Beltine is fast becoming Calgary´s Weste End.

It doesn´t look as big from most skyline views because of the huge dominance of large and tall office towers downtown. Vancouver´s residential areas look huge because they asre not short buildings in comparison to the downtown office buildings.
Exactly. Downtown and the Beltline cover a similar area to the peninsula in Vancouver, but the office towers here dominate so much that the beltline looks small.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 3:22 AM
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Sure but try telling that to people who have to wipe soot off their lawn furniture, car, etc. every morning. It's not terribly civilised...
Historically about half of those people were probable working in the factory producing the soot and the other half only had jobs because of the concentration of factory workings looking to spend money.

At least it keeps the bugs away.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 4:25 AM
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Hmmmm....I wonder if someday Toronto will be more horizontally oriented along the lakeshore a la Chicago? This pic almost gives that impression, but I think there's some photo-trickery involved.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 5:03 AM
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Yeah, I am pretty sure the still water is photoshopped. Nice photo, nonetheless.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 5:05 AM
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The Beltine is fast becoming Calgary´s West End.
For that there would need to be a lot more lushness and a lot less parking spaces.
     
     
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For that there would need to be a lot more lushness and a lot less parking spaces.
The key word was 'becoming' The Beltline is looking great, but it's still a work in progress. In all fairness, There really aren't many parking lots left in the Beltline they are mostly in and around the Stampede grounds.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 8:57 PM
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For that there would need to be a lot more lushness and a lot less parking spaces.
Green, tree covered streets aren't lush enough for you? there are lots of parking lots in the area around the Stampede grounds but they are disappearing fast.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 10:58 PM
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I cannot tell where Beltline ends, but in the photo that started the whole discussion there are lots of parking lots in the foreground. I realize that is some kind of event area, but I can see Guardian towers in the middle of that area, so I though that would still be Beltline.

Granted, the area further back looks much more greener and bears a resemblance to West End.
     
     
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If there was ever an angle which made a case against the Palais des Congres, it's this one.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2015, 11:53 PM
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I cannot tell where Beltline ends, but in the photo that started the whole discussion there are lots of parking lots in the foreground. I realize that is some kind of event area, but I can see Guardian towers in the middle of that area, so I though that would still be Beltline.

Granted, the area further back looks much more greener and bears a resemblance to West End.
The Beltline goes back about 15 blocks in that picture, the area in the foreground is the Stampede grounds and east Victoria Park (one of 2 neighbourhoods that were combined to create the beltline) and is an ocean of surface lots. West Victoria Park and Connaught (the other neighbourhood) are very green and mostly built out. If you want a good example of how green the Beltline is, check out google streetview for 13-16 Ave, anywhere west of 2St SW, very similar built form to the West End, though obviously not as lush due to being on the high praries, not a valley at sea level.
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I've always found the Beltline similar to the Broadway Corridor in Vancouver. Both have a mixture of office and residential, are separated from downtown by a physical barrier (False Creek for Vancouver, the railway tracks for Calgary) and probably have a comparable population.

The upper portion of the Broadway Corridor



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Broadway always reminded me of Mission here a bit more, still very urban, just more low rise. Vancouver's density outside the peninsula always impressed me.
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2015, 2:28 AM
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The Broadway corridor is pretty dense as you say:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.2628993,-123.122602,1517m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Some other areas are getting dense but with short buildings, like along Hastings (Sunrise)
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.2814091,-123.055255,756m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Mt. Pleasant too:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.2625384,-123.0985019,767m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

UBC has about as many low-mid rise buildings as they can jam into the property too:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.266109,-123.2502835,942m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

Oakridge and the Cabmie st. plans re-development will be a massive infusion of density in South Van:
(Looks like this right now, some density https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.2312325,-123.117672,748m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)


From: http://www.hellovancity.com/real-estate/oakridge-centre-proposed-rezoning/

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Old Posted Apr 4, 2015, 8:10 AM
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Green, tree covered streets aren't lush enough for you? there are lots of parking lots in the area around the Stampede grounds but they are disappearing fast.
Thankfully almost all of them have proposals on them by now.
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