LOS ANGELES | Central City Project Rundown 5.0 - Page 441

BrianMojo · #**8801** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 5:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by alki

Whoa! Where did you find this hot mess? This would be a fun one to redo.

That's actually a cool building in person. It might need a little love but it's got a great vintage sign and feels very appropriate for the neighborhood.

BrianMojo · #**8802** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 6:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by DTLAdenizen

Olympic & Broadway Palmer by HunterKerhart.com, on Flickr

I don't know much about actual construction, can someone explain what's going on with the grid in this photo?

LosAngelesSportsFan · #**8803** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by BrianMojo

That's actually a cool building in person. It might need a little love but it's got a great vintage sign and feels very appropriate for the neighborhood.

it actually recently sold (last year) and they have been rehabbing it. They did a great job with the retail rehab and i think they are doing the rest as well

BrianMojo · #**8804** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by blackcat23

http://urbanize.la/post/broadway-trade-center-add-new-floors

Speaking of the Broadway Trade Center, some new information on the project.

A permit application from LADBS states that the building will remove approximately 57,000 sq. ft. of floor area from the interior to create window bays and a courtyard. There will also be new mezzanine floors and rooftop levels added which will push the building's height to 16 stories.

So it sounds like this is going to happen, but with additional stories, yeah?

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/09/dtlas_scruffy_bway_trade_center_could_get_major_upgrade.php

bunkerhill23 · #**8805** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 7:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by alki

Whoa! Where did you find this hot mess? This would be a fun one to redo.

What are you talking about? It's a great building that has one of the most popular coffee shops in the city (Verve) and creative office space on the other floors.

Mojeda101 · #**8806** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunkerhill23

What are you talking about? It's a great building that has one of the most popular coffee shops in the city (Verve) and creative office space on the other floors.

I think he used hot mess as a compliment

DistrictDirt · #**8807** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunkerhill23

What are you talking about? It's a great building that has one of the most popular coffee shops in the city (Verve) and creative office space on the other floors.

A couple of my friends work at Alternative Apparel, which leases out a couple floors of the building as their headquarters. Its a great space- open floorplan and lots of light. They're starting to do events there too- there was a Stones Throw party there last year, and they often use the space to host Creative Mornings LA lectures.

I think I heard that one of the owners of Alternative Apparel has a stake in the Verve location downstairs.

ThomJames · #**8808** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 10:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by BrianMojo

I don't know much about actual construction, can someone explain what's going on with the grid in this photo?

It's decking. Rebar will be placed and then cement will be poured to make a floor of parking.

alki · #**8809** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunkerhill23

What are you talking about? It's a great building that has one of the most popular coffee shops in the city (Verve) and creative office space on the other floors.

Mojeda's got it right..........I like the bldg. a lot. I like it because of the combination of architectural styles.......makes it unusual. However, it needs some work....some of the windows are not original....just needs to be spruced up.

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Originally Posted by BrianMojo

That's actually a cool building in person. It might need a little love but it's got a great vintage sign and feels very appropriate for the neighborhood.

Do you know its address?

Its what I love about LA..........too many cool bldgs. to rehab; not enough time.

caligrad · #**8810** Posted **Mar 30, 2015, 11:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by BrianMojo

So it sounds like this is going to happen, but with additional stories, yeah?

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/09/dtlas_scruffy_bway_trade_center_could_get_major_upgrade.php

Ok seeing this is interesting. I like it and it will add natural lighting into the center, something that probably wouldn't be possible without the cutout.

Question.

I didn't know that developers were allowed to cut into the historic buildings on Broadway like this. If that's the case. Are developers allowed to propose a new high-rise and keep the historic façade as a base for the new buildings like with this cut out but building a new tower in the center ?

I've seen that done elsewhere before, SD as one to quickly come to mind.. I thought it was a rule that historic buildings couldn't be touched but just modest interior renovations and cleaning of exteriors?

BrianMojo · #**8811** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 12:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by alki

Do you know its address?

Its what I love about LA..........too many cool bldgs. to rehab; not enough time.

I think it's already rehabbed as some other folks said, but the address is:

833 S Spring St Los Angeles, CA 90014

colemonkee · #**8812** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 12:27 AM**

^It all depends on the condition of and historical relevance of the interior of the building in question, and whether or not the developer wants to gain historic landmark status on the City, State, or Federal level. Generally the City (I've done a lot of work with the great folks in LA in my time at the Higgins Building) shys away from altering any original elements of the building, unless they are A) architecturally or historically insignificant or B) beyond repair or restoration. As a default setting, the City leans towards preservation and restoration, but I'm sure exceptions can be made - as they are clearly being done here.

For example, if the exterior of a building were to be still intact, but the interior completely gutted, I wouldn't be surprise - or upset - if the city allowed the kind of facadectomy projects that Chicago and New York have had (many of them very successful). There just aren't any to speak of in LA, frankly because it hasn't come up.

On a side note, even if I count the loft floors in that cutaway, the highest count I get is 13-14 stories. I have no idea where they're getting 16 stories from.

ChelseaFC · #**8813** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 12:56 AM**

Video shows suspect in massive downtown L.A. arson fire, officials say

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...n-fire-officials-say-20150330-story.html

alki · #**8814** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 3:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by caligrad

Ok seeing this is interesting. I like it and it will add natural lighting into the center, something that probably wouldn't be possible without the cutout.

Question.

I didn't know that developers were allowed to cut into the historic buildings on Broadway like this. If that's the case. Are developers allowed to propose a new high-rise and keep the historic façade as a base for the new buildings like with this cut out but building a new tower in the center ?

I've seen that done elsewhere before, SD as one to quickly come to mind.. I thought it was a rule that historic buildings couldn't be touched but just modest interior renovations and cleaning of exteriors?

I will be surprised if they let them make that cut into the bldg.

Thanks, Brian, for the address.

blackcat23 · #**8815** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 4:05 AM**

That Broadway Trade Center is a cutaway rendering produced for the previous owner of the building when they placed it on the market.

I'm pretty sure they will be allowed to cut out a central courtyard, because the building is pretty much unusable otherwise.

alki · #**8816** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 5:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by blackcat23

That Broadway Trade Center is a cutaway rendering produced for the previous owner of the building when they placed it on the market.

I'm pretty sure they will be allowed to cut out a central courtyard, because the building is pretty much unusable otherwise.

Yes, the courtyard make sense but do you think they will let them cut into the front of the bldg?

Docjalby · #**8817** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 5:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by alki

Yes, the courtyard make sense but do you think they will let them cut into the front of the bldg?

I just understood what Blackcat23 was saying. This is an artists rendering of what the inner courtyard would look like if you cut out the Hill side of the building. I think it would have been a sweet idea if they did just cut out some of the building though.

blackcat23 · #**8818** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 3:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Docjalby

I just understood what Blackcat23 was saying. This is an artists rendering of what the inner courtyard would look like if you cut out the Hill side of the building. I think it would have been a sweet idea if they did just cut out some of the building though.

Yes, that's what I meant to say. It probably would have been more clear if I'd described the rendering as a cross-section.

This is what happens when you post while half asleep.

DistrictDirt · #**8819** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 3:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by blackcat23

Yes, that's what I meant to say. It probably would have been more clear if I'd described the rendering as a cross-section.

This is what happens when you post while half asleep.

Everyone was confused last year too when that rendering originally made the rounds. The artist probably could have done more to make it immediately obvious that its a cutaway view.

Wally West · #**8820** Posted **Mar 31, 2015, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by ChelseaFC

Video shows suspect in massive downtown L.A. arson fire, officials say

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...n-fire-officials-say-20150330-story.html

Slightly disappointed that the article didn't show the video footage. However, I found this bit interesting.

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Investigators believe the suspect "torched that building up from the freeway side and then escaped”