Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by red-paladin

Have you seen the ceiling of the existing platforms? It matches damn close:

No, I hadn't seen it before. I don't think I've ever been that far east.

[dpogue]

Maybe just of interest to particular SkyTrain geeks such as myself, but CBC's Stephen Quinn tweeted a photo yesterday when he toured the SkyTrain Control Centre.


Source: Stephen Quinn on Twitter

These are the emergency stop buttons for all the platforms. Notice that LHS (Lougheed Side Platform) is new, and to the bottom right are the new Evergreen Line stations (BQ - Burquitlam, MC - Moody Centre, IC - Inlet Centre, C(Q?) - Coquitlam, etc.)

[red-paladin]

They have a space left for WL - Woodlands station, which can be built at the eastern end of the Columbia tunnel! That's awesome!

Related article:
Translink SkyTrain control centre: behind the scenes
Stephen Quinn pulls back the curtain to reveal how the SkyTrain works
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...ntrol-centre-behind-the-scenes-1.2989637

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by red-paladin

They have a space left for WL - Woodlands station, which can be built at the eastern end of the Columbia tunnel! That's awesome!

Related article:
Translink SkyTrain control centre: behind the scenes
Stephen Quinn pulls back the curtain to reveal how the SkyTrain works
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...ntrol-centre-behind-the-scenes-1.2989637

It's in the wrong place on the board though, sandwiched between Lougheed and Braid, when it should be after Sapperton.

[dpogue]

Originally Posted by CanSpice

It's in the wrong place on the board though, sandwiched between Lougheed and Braid, when it should be after Sapperton.

It's been that way since M-Line opened. I suspect it's related to the phased opening and how the system considers the track to switch directions right after Woodlands Station.

[Kisai]

Originally Posted by CanSpice

It's in the wrong place on the board though, sandwiched between Lougheed and Braid, when it should be after Sapperton.

Probably whoever put the panel together couldn't change the underlying PCB. We don't know what it previously looked like, but that space in the panel for LHS may have been there originally.

Notice that the top is entirely Waterfront to King George (Expo line,) but the bottom is VCC-Clark to Lougheed, and then there is the LHS button, followed by WL with no button, Braid, Sapperton, and then space left for the Evergreen line on the right hand of the board.

Perhaps there was an error, but they left it in as there's still no plans to build Woodlands.

This link http://www.civitasdesign.com/urban2.html was posted by officedweller in 2008 to SSP, but the page is gone, I had to retrieve it from archive.org.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by Kisai

Probably whoever put the panel together couldn't change the underlying PCB. We don't know what it previously looked like, but that space in the panel for LHS may have been there originally.

Notice that the top is entirely Waterfront to King George (Expo line,) but the bottom is VCC-Clark to Lougheed, and then there is the LHS button, followed by WL with no button, Braid, Sapperton, and then space left for the Evergreen line on the right hand of the board.

Perhaps there was an error, but they left it in as there's still no plans to build Woodlands.

This link http://www.civitasdesign.com/urban2.html was posted by officedweller in 2008 to SSP, but the page is gone, I had to retrieve it from archive.org.

Interestingly enough, the archived page also shows two potential locations for a SkyTrain station in Maillardville. I've heard rumours about this, and heard that Coquitlam didn't want a SkyTrain station there, so it got moved to Braid. I've never seen any actual information about this before!

[officedweller]

Aerial shot on VanCity Buzz:

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2012/12/woodlands-the-skytrain-station-that-never-got-built/

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by dpogue

Maybe just of interest to particular SkyTrain geeks such as myself, but CBC's Stephen Quinn tweeted a photo yesterday when he toured the SkyTrain Control Centre.


Source: Stephen Quinn on Twitter

These are the emergency stop buttons for all the platforms. Notice that LHS (Lougheed Side Platform) is new, and to the bottom right are the new Evergreen Line stations (BQ - Burquitlam, MC - Moody Centre, IC - Inlet Centre, C(Q?) - Coquitlam, etc.)

My first reaction was how many buttons have had their stencil rubbed away by using button.
Has there actually been so many Emergency Stop incidents at some stations; some stations having higher numbers than others over the decades ?

[Olden Retreiver]

Originally Posted by CanSpice

Interestingly enough, the archived page also shows two potential locations for a SkyTrain station in Maillardville. I've heard rumours about this, and heard that Coquitlam didn't want a SkyTrain station there, so it got moved to Braid. I've never seen any actual information about this before!

That's an awesome discovery!
I cannot imagine why Coquitlam would not want a station there to rejuvenate that neighbourhood. Unless it would have locked-in the eventual "Evergreen" expansion to the SouthEast alignment, along Lougheed all the way to Coquitlam Centre instead of the NorthWest alignment via Burquitlam and Port Moody?

Could there have been Provincial partisan politics at play? Anyone remember? Lou Sekora would have already been gone as Coquitlam mayor by 1997-98 when this was in the final planning stages. Derek Corrigan would have been a outspoken Burnaby councillor for a full decade by that time, but did not become mayor until 2002.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Olden Retreiver

That's an awesome discovery!
I cannot imagine why Coquitlam would not want a station there to rejuvenate that neighbourhood. Unless it would have locked-in the eventual "Evergreen" expansion to the SouthEast alignment, along Lougheed all the way to Coquitlam Centre instead of the NorthWest alignment via Burquitlam and Port Moody?

Could there have been Provincial partisan politics at play? Anyone remember? Lou Sekora would have already been gone as Coquitlam mayor by 1997-98 when this was in the final planning stages. Derek Corrigan would have been a outspoken Burnaby councillor for a full decade by that time, but did not become mayor until 2002.

The neighborhood of Lower Lougheed protested against having the line go around them, as they feel they already being sandwiched between Trans-Canada, the railway, and Lougheed Highways. They insist having the line to go south of Trans-Canada, and the alignment were changed as a result. Coquitlam lost its only potential station on the line as Maillardville were replaced by Braid station.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Olden Retreiver

That's an awesome discovery!
I cannot imagine why Coquitlam would not want a station there to rejuvenate that neighbourhood. Unless it would have locked-in the eventual "Evergreen" expansion to the SouthEast alignment, along Lougheed all the way to Coquitlam Centre instead of the NorthWest alignment via Burquitlam and Port Moody?

Could there have been Provincial partisan politics at play? Anyone remember? Lou Sekora would have already been gone as Coquitlam mayor by 1997-98 when this was in the final planning stages. Derek Corrigan would have been a outspoken Burnaby councillor for a full decade by that time, but did not become mayor until 2002.

They didn't want the "crime train" and didn't want Maillardville's small town character to change.
I remember it being like a finger that extended out to Maillardville.

[MIPS]

Originally Posted by jsbertram

My first reaction was how many buttons have had their stencil rubbed away by using button.
Has there actually been so many Emergency Stop incidents at some stations; some stations having higher numbers than others over the decades ?

Expo's pressure plates aren't really maintained so they have been known to not activate, plus they don't work when you jump on the reaction rail. For everything else the IR curtains can be triggered by anything, hence why they are often turned off during heavy snow.
I'm assuming there's a lot of gluing to the screens and if someone or something gets in the way, don't ask questions, just press it.

Or the more logical reason could be the buttons are tested daily before the system comes online.

[Olden Retreiver]

Originally Posted by officedweller

They didn't want the "crime train" and didn't want Maillardville's small town character to change.
I remember it being like a finger that extended out to Maillardville.

Maillardville's small town charm must have dissipated quickly between the planning of the M-Line circa 1998 until I moved to the Tri-Cities in 2004, because it sure is a dump now.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by officedweller

They didn't want the "crime train" and didn't want Maillardville's small town character to change.
I remember it being like a finger that extended out to Maillardville.

The location of the proposed station is across Lougheed from what I consider to be "Maillardville proper". If you're having troubles visualizing it (as I was) it's where KMS Tools is currently located, across the street from IKEA, and across the other street from Greyhound. It actually would have been a decent destination location, unlike Braid is currently.

[officedweller]

I can't remember what side of Lougheed Hwy it would have been on.

Tried Googling and came across this interesting read:

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&e...WYX4bxJmgaH1x-95wg&bvm=bv.88198703,d.cGU

Found this excerpt in the M-Line SkyTrain Special Commission Review Interim Report:


http://a100.gov.bc.ca/appsdata/epic/docu...279_c5027bb0559140c8bc0acfed4615db00.pdf

Various documents here:

http://a100.gov.bc.ca/appsdata/epic/html/deploy/epic_document_53_15491.html

[SOSS]

Are there any tunnel projects going smoothly in western north america?

Drilling to resume on stalled Metro Vancouver water tunnel for Surrey area

Fascinating (/terrifying) how they injected liquid nitrogen to allow for repairs to the TBM that is 50 metres below the bottom of the river.

[adrianroam95]

A video of interest posted by the Ministry of Transportation last week:
• Video Link

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by SOSS

Are there any tunnel projects going smoothly in western north america?

Drilling to resume on stalled Metro Vancouver water tunnel for Surrey area

Fascinating (/terrifying) how they injected liquid nitrogen to allow for repairs to the TBM that is 50 metres below the bottom of the river.

Thanks - didn't know about that one - just the Capilano-Seymour water tunnel problems a few years ago.

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by SOSS

Are there any tunnel projects going smoothly in western north america?

Drilling to resume on stalled Metro Vancouver water tunnel for Surrey area

Fascinating (/terrifying) how they injected liquid nitrogen to allow for repairs to the TBM that is 50 metres below the bottom of the river.

Not sure why it would be terrifying, unless you're a fish in the river.

Fascinating, because only an engineer would think "lets freeze the water under the river and around the TBM into a giant block of ice so we can repair it. When ready to start digging again, just let the Nitrogen bubble away, the under-river block of ice will thaw, and the TBM can carry on.

They may have borrowed the idea from Boston's Big Dig and other ground-freezing projects

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/tech/artificial-ground-freezing/