Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4 - Page 104

Comrade · #**2061** Posted **Feb 26, 2015, 7:28 AM**

His about face probably stems from the fact he's Dell Loy Hansen - an insufferable dick.

SLC Projects · #**2062** Posted **Feb 26, 2015, 7:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

His about face probably stems from the fact he's Dell Loy Hansen - an insufferable dick.

If you want to blame anybody then blame the idiots up on the hill. Can't blame Hansen for wanting to pull out as he waits and waits and waits some more for the Politicians to finally pull their heads out of their own asses and make a damn decision already. Meanwhile the Monarch's season begins in two weeks and the goal was to have them move to their own stadium by next year. Clearly that's not going to happen now and Hansen doesn't have time to wait.

DCRes · #**2063** Posted **Feb 26, 2015, 4:32 PM**

I'm personally still skeptical that a minor league soccer team justifies having it's own stadium anyway, at least while there is a major league team right down the road (major freeway). I did like the idea of a stadium at the fair park though, I somehome held out hope that 10 years down the road they would expand the fairpark stadium and move RSL out of Sandy

SLC Projects · #**2064** Posted **Feb 26, 2015, 6:55 PM**

Listening to a interview on ESPN 700 yesterday, Dell Loy Hansen did say that he wants to build the stadium somewhere within the greater Salt Lake Valley and that we all should hear something in the very near future since he wants the stadium build ASAP for not only his new USL team, but he also wants a Pro Women's soccer team by 2017 also. There is a tight time table and Hansen doesn't have time to just sit around with the fairground issues.
He also didn't rule out having the stadium in the Provo or Ogden areas, but those are less likely.

I always felt that the city of Provo could use a Sports team of some kind. Would be cool to see a 8000 seat stadium develop somewhere in or near downtown Provo.

Dell Loy did say that he has gotten offers from other cities, but didn't say what cities. Murray? Sandy? Draper? Who knows at this point.

Hatman · #**2065** Posted **Feb 26, 2015, 8:04 PM**

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Dell Loy did say that he has gotten offers from other cities, but didn't say what cities. Murray? Sandy? Draper? Who knows at this point.

West Valley. I'm calling it right now. West Valley City.

Too bad about the fairgrounds. Are we sure this is a done deal and not some bargaining tactics? Getting bureaucracy to move by 'threatening' to back out?

SLC Projects · #**2066** Posted **Feb 26, 2015, 8:38 PM**

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West Valley. I'm calling it right now. West Valley City.

Too bad about the fairgrounds. Are we sure this is a done deal and not some bargaining tactics? Getting bureaucracy to move by 'threatening' to back out?

Where in West Valley? Not a lot of undeveloped land left. Not sure if I would like to see it way out west.

Does DLH own any undevelop ( or run down areas for redevelop ) in West Valley or downtown SLC?

Is there a way to pull up a list of properties that he owns and maybe those could be hints?

AllOutOfBubbleGum · #**2067** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 3:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by SLC Projects

Listening to a interview on ESPN 700 yesterday, Dell Loy Hansen did say that he wants to build the stadium somewhere within the greater Salt Lake Valley and that we all should hear something in the very near future since he wants the stadium build ASAP for not only his new USL team, but he also wants a Pro Women's soccer team by 2017 also. There is a tight time table and Hansen doesn't have time to just sit around with the fairground issues.
He also didn't rule out having the stadium in the Provo or Ogden areas, but those are less likely.

I always felt that the city of Provo could use a Sports team of some kind. Would be cool to see a 8000 seat stadium develop somewhere in or near downtown Provo.

Dell Loy did say that he has gotten offers from other cities, but didn't say what cities. Murray? Sandy? Draper? Who knows at this point.

Salt Lake City is about to close 3 golf courses so there might be plenty of land soon.

goldcntry · #**2068** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 2:44 PM**

They could demolish the now empty Hollywood Exchange, putting the soccer stadium adjacent (across the street) from the Maverick Center. Works for me!

DCRes · #**2069** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 3:39 PM**

This bad boy is starting to pick up some steam now

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UTPlanner · #**2070** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 6:37 PM**

Some preliminary plans for the future development of the former Hostess plant on 400 South have came in and it's an impressive development. It's a huge building with frontage on 400 South, 500 South and 700 East. It does include retail along 400 South. The parking garage is in the center of the block and almost completely wrapped with housing. It's a 5 story structure with 300 +- apartments. Cowboy Partners is building the project and because I know someone will bring this up immediately...there is no stucco on the building. I really like that each frontage will have a different style so it doesn't necessarily appear as one gargantuan structure.

StevenF · #**2071** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 10:32 PM**

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Salt Lake City is about to close 3 golf courses so there might be plenty of land soon.

Is one of them the golf course by the zoo? I would love to see the zoo get at least part of that land for future growth if it is one on the chopping block.

asies1981 · #**2072** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 11:10 PM**

Construction should soon commence on the Steven Black Apartments (the former Sizzler site on 400 South).

Comrade · #**2073** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 11:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by UTPlanner

Some preliminary plans for the future development of the former Hostess plant on 400 South have came in and it's an impressive development. It's a huge building with frontage on 400 South, 500 South and 700 East. It does include retail along 400 South. The parking garage is in the center of the block and almost completely wrapped with housing. It's a 5 story structure with 300 +- apartments. Cowboy Partners is building the project and because I know someone will bring this up immediately...there is no stucco on the building. I really like that each frontage will have a different style so it doesn't necessarily appear as one gargantuan structure.

I'm disappointed that it'll cap out at five-stories. I think that area could be primed for at least a decent mid-rise of maybe ten or so stories. It seems all our residential hits this invisible ceiling of not going higher than five or six stories and I wish that wasn't always the case.

SLC Projects · #**2074** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 11:36 PM**

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I'm disappointed that it'll cap out at five-stories. I think that area could be primed for at least a decent mid-rise of maybe ten or so stories. It seems all our residential hits this invisible ceiling of not going higher than five or six stories and I wish that wasn't always the case.

At least we have the State Street Plaza development.........slowly...........going...........up.

jubguy3 · #**2075** Posted **Feb 27, 2015, 11:41 PM**

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I'm disappointed that it'll cap out at five-stories. I think that area could be primed for at least a decent mid-rise of maybe ten or so stories. It seems all our residential hits this invisible ceiling of not going higher than five or six stories and I wish that wasn't always the case.

It's because of the limitations of wood framing

Comrade · #**2076** Posted **Feb 28, 2015, 12:58 AM**

Yes. I get it. It's cheaper to build low-rise buildings. We're not investing much into our infrastructure as a city. We're building buildings to demolish in 20 years for newer buildings.

EPdesign · #**2077** Posted **Feb 28, 2015, 1:12 AM**

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Construction should soon commence on the Steven Black Apartments (the former Sizzler site on 400 South).

This is an Improvement on the original plans. I did have to do a double take because It is kinda like other projects but, I like it. I can't wait for it to be finished. 4th is already so different.

Orlando · #**2078** Posted **Feb 28, 2015, 3:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

I'm disappointed that it'll cap out at five-stories. I think that area could be primed for at least a decent mid-rise of maybe ten or so stories. It seems all our residential hits this invisible ceiling of not going higher than five or six stories and I wish that wasn't always the case.

It's all about economics. 5 over 1 mixed-use buildings are being built all over, because it allows for the most to be built out with inexpensive wood framing. 5 levels (max.) of wood framing over 1 to 2 stories of Type I construction.

But, I hear ya. It would be great to get something taller. I'm just happy that there is a boom going on along 4th south in building mixed-use residential buildings to the street. 4th south is definitely in transition.

SLC Projects · #**2079** Posted **Feb 28, 2015, 5:05 PM**

Another step forward for Salt Lake City.....

New development aims to create a more walkable downtown

Video:
http://fox13now.com/2015/02/27/new-development-aims-to-create-a-more-walkable-downtown/

AllOutOfBubbleGum · #**2080** Posted **Feb 28, 2015, 7:09 PM**

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Is one of them the golf course by the zoo? I would love to see the zoo get at least part of that land for future growth if it is one on the chopping block.

Bonneville Golf Course is by the Zoo and it will not be closing ... that one makes money.

Glendale, Nibley and and Wingpoint. Glendale is by Raging Waters and Nibley is on 700 E and about 2500 S. According to the city counsel they think these courses would be better as parks. Now if the city is trying to save money this is how you don't do it. They will go from managing golf courses that had at least some income coming in to now managing a park which will have zero income to us for keep up.

Maybe that's what they want, and in a few years they will say these area's are too expensive to maintain so we are selling some of it to development so we can save money. But to do that they would need voter approval, I think.

But all of this can be traced back to the Airport Audit a few years ago that forced Wingpoint to start paying fare market value for the land it was on. That course was feeding the short comings of all the other SLC courses. Now with no money from Wingpoint SLC needs to rethink the courses. Wingpoint will be sold to the Airport or FAA and it will probably be turned into Parking or something else down the road in like 2050.

SLC currently has 7 public courses, which is a lot. I do not know of any other city that has that many in Northern Utah and that is not counting the Country Club.