Canadian City Proposals - Page 147

GreaterMontréal · #**2921** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 4:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

People who may want to take this seriously. I care as do others who have been posting about the poor design. Sorry you don't care.

the upper floors will be condos, I think it's reasonable to think that they already know how to do it.

TorontoDrew · #**2922** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 4:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

the upper floors will be condos, I think it's reasonable to think that they already know how to do it.

Judging by the renders I'd say that haven't figured that part out yet. The current design seems less plausible then Sapphire ever did. Glad to know so many will look at a render and not realize much of it is still up in the air. If you think that they can actually be built like that I'd love to see if done.

GreaterMontréal · #**2923** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 4:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Judging by the renders I'd say that haven't figured that part out yet. The current design seems less plausible then Sapphire ever did. Glad to know so many will look at a render and not realize much of it is still up in the air. If you think that they can actually be built like that I'd love to see if done.

TorontoDrew · #**2924** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 11:28 AM**

Those don't clearly show the top floors to be units with thin ceilings. Also they came out the same time as the city documents showing them to be mechanical floors. Nice try.

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WhipperSnapper · #**2925** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 2:04 PM**

It's a freak'n rendering! How thick do you think a roof over these flare outs needs to be?

TorontoDrew · #**2926** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 2:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

It's a freak'n rendering! How thick do you think a roof over these flare outs needs to be?

That's not my point Whipper. Are they supposed to be units or are the mechanical. If units those roofs don't ad up.

WhipperSnapper · #**2927** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 2:17 PM**

I really don't get your point. It's an artistic impression of what the building will look like. I don't the builders will be using it as a reference.

TorontoDrew · #**2928** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 2:34 PM**

So we can't ask questions about the building then? This is a forum for people interested in architecture and design. Trying to find out if those are condo units or just empty mech spaces seems like a legitimate question to be asking without seeing the drafts. If you have an answer then please let us know otherwise try to be a little less condescending.

WhipperSnapper · #**2929** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 3:01 PM**

I really didn't know what you were after? No, it's not a legitimate question because it's one that can't be answered from an artistic rendering.

lio45 · #**2930** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 3:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Spring2008

I always thought of Quebec City as an elegant place

Have you also always thought of Ste-Foy as an elegant place? If so you might want to visit someday...

OTSkyline · #**2931** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 4:01 PM**

Guess I am the odd one out but I actually love the design. Love the roof, spire and height. The only thing I don't like is the huge mid-rise podium with the other 3 "towers" surrounding the main one.. makes it look to crowded...

Would love to see this tower in Vancouver or even the new Dow's Lake skyline in Ottawa. It's nice, and different! Also kind of reminds me of Trump Toronto with its onion top (which I also love but everyone seems to hate)

Acajack · #**2932** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 4:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by lio45

Have you also always thought of Ste-Foy as an elegant place? If so you might want to visit someday...

Regarding the comments about the location, in fairness Quebec City's doesn't really have a district that resembles anything close to a skyscraper cluster.

Obviously you don't want this stuff next to the historic city centre, and an area like Ste-Foy offers a decent concentration of economic activity already so it makes at least some sense to try and densify there.

City building is sometimes the "art of the possible" too!

GreaterMontréal · #**2933** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 6:27 PM**

the new downtown is in Ste-Foy because the Old Town is full of tourists and lots of traffic, not the best place to have a CBD. Old Quebec is not built like a normal city. narrow streets, etc

Daveography · #**2934** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 6:44 PM**

^ Tourists and traffic are not good for CBDs; you heard it here first.

I am happy to see Quebec City get a tall proposal and enter the big leagues, but I really do hope they revise that design, it's pretty bad. "It seems that perfection is reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away" is a mantra of good design; this isn't as subjective an idea as some might think.

GreaterMontréal · #**2935** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 7:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Daveography

^ Tourists and traffic are not good for CBDs; you heard it here first.

I am happy to see Quebec City get a tall proposal and enter the big leagues, but I really do hope they revise that design, it's pretty bad. "It seems that perfection is reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away" is a mantra of good design; this isn't as subjective an idea as some might think.

Old Quebec is not build like Montréal. You need a car to go there. no public transport other than the bus. It's the last walled city north of Mexico. If you want a modern tower, you can't build it there. In the future, I would not be surprised to see companies move from Old-Quebec to Ste-Foy. The Old Town is not an ideal place to have a major business.

phesto · #**2936** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 7:08 PM**

New proposal for the Downtown South area of Vancouver.

40-storeys, 378 ft.

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Acajack · #**2937** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 7:13 PM**

[QUOTE=GreaterMontréal;6921478]Old Quebec is not build like Montréal. You need a car to go there. no public transport other than the bus. It's the last walled city north of Mexico. If you want a modern tower, you can't build it there. In the future, I would not be surprised to see companies move from Old-Quebec to Ste-Foy. The Old Town is not an ideal place to have a major business.[/QUOTE]

I think this is already the case to a large degree. Much of the economic activity in Quebec City that does not need to be in the old town is already outside the old town. You have this trend in almost any city - even the very historical ones in Europe have this trend.

But the old part of Quebec City is so unique that it will always maintain itself. It doesn't need heavy or light industries or anything of that sort. And will always have a certain number of businesses like law offices and creative industries, etc.

Daveography · #**2938** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 9:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

Old Quebec is not build like Montréal. You need a car to go there. no public transport other than the bus. It's the last walled city north of Mexico. If you want a modern tower, you can't build it there. In the future, I would not be surprised to see companies move from Old-Quebec to Ste-Foy. The Old Town is not an ideal place to have a major business.

Oh I'm not disagreeing with you about whether or not Old Quebec City is suitable for tall towers. I'm disagreeing with you that tourists and traffic are bad for a CBD.

GreaterMontréal · #**2939** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Daveography

Oh I'm not disagreeing with you about whether or not Old Quebec City is suitable for tall towers. I'm disagreeing with you that tourists and traffic are bad for a CBD.

I was talking about Old Quebec, the CBD is very small and compact, hence, not the best place. Tourists mostly visit the Old-Quebec, dozens of buses everywhere, too much traffic, and it's not an economic advantage if you want to attract major companies.

I never talk about other cities.

Surrealplaces · #**2940** Posted **Feb 19, 2015, 10:59 PM**

Are those two levels per unit? It doesn't look 40 floors.

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Originally Posted by phesto

New proposal for the Downtown South area of Vancouver.

40-storeys, 378 ft.