Calgary International Airport II

Wouldn't be surprised if it gets pulled before it even starts.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Acey

Wouldn't be surprised if it gets pulled before it even starts.

Which route? IAH on WS?

Yeah. I have no knowledge of the situation or anything but just based on the performance of DFW and MIA/FLL, it wouldn't be surprising. Hoping for the best, of course.

[YYCguys]

Originally Posted by Acey

Yeah. I have no knowledge of the situation or anything but just based on the performance of DFW and MIA/FLL, it wouldn't be surprising. Hoping for the best, of course.

Is DFW performing poorly for WS?

Originally Posted by YYCguys

Is DFW performing poorly for WS?

Independent from loads, the yields aren't great, apparently. Cage had mentioned it on here, so I asked a few people I know at WS to see if anyone knew anything about its performance. Didn't hear anything definitive.

[Bigtime]

Air Canada Rouge just tweeted that they are going to start YYC-Hamilton this summer.

Hey @flyyhm Get ready! We're launching non-stop flights this summer from @FlyYYC to your beautiful city!

[MalcolmTucker]

Interesting! Didn't Tango or Zip used to fly that?

[tuffyy]

Pretty obvious who they are targeting for passengers!

It's gonna get really intresting once the WS 763's arrive!

WS will codeshare with PR (Phillipine Airlines) on the following routes:

YVR-YYC/YEG/YYZ/YWG
YYZ-YUL/YOW

PR is not currently part of an alliance; looks like they currently fly MNL-YVR with 77W equipment, this allows MNL-YVR-YYC on a single WS/PR ticket.

[yyc_engineer]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Air Canada Rouge just tweeted that they are going to start YYC-Hamilton this summer.

I would prefer the other Hamilton (Bermuda that is ) but Ontario is good too! Only service for AC out of YHM! Go Rouge!

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Air Canada Rouge just tweeted that they are going to start YYC-Hamilton this summer.

For what it's worth, WS this summer on YYC-YHM fly either 2x 738 + 1x 737, or 3x 738. Should be fun.

[Policy Wonk]

Originally Posted by Acey

For sure, but I meant interesting in the sense that IAH-YYC on UA/AC is one of the biggest transborder strangleholds. Tall order for WS to squeeze in and if they do, it won't be with feed on the US side that I was hoping they'd get at MIA.

I understand TCPL actively lobbied for this route.

Originally Posted by Policy Wonk

I understand TCPL actively lobbied for this route.

WS equipment and times a bit variable like I said, but here's how YYC-YHM and back looks on June 27 with new Rouge service.

WS532 YYC 0650 - 1234 YHM 737-700
WS538 YYC 0955 - 1539 YHM 737-700
RV1984 YYC 1425 - 2000 YHM A319
WS584 YYC 1900 - 0044+1 YHM 737-800

WS585 YHM 0635 - 0843 YYC 737-700
RV1983 YHM 0800 - 1005 YYC A319
WS539 YHM 1620 - 1828 YYC 737-700
WS533 YHM 1900 - 2108 YYC 737-700

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Air Canada Rouge just tweeted that they are going to start YYC-Hamilton this summer.

More AC "group" love for YYC!

Seemed like it was just little sneaky cuts here and there for the last couple of years...

Now YYC is getting YHZ, YHM, YCD and YXT on AC!

Holy shit shit shit THERE WAS A METHOD TO THE MADNESS. After 5 years away, AC852 has returned.

@airlineroute Air Canada increases Calgary - London Heathrow service from 7 to 9 weekly from 02MAY15, 11 weekly from 01JUN15 for summer season

AC850 YYC 1750 0935+1 LHR 333
AC852 YYC 1955 1150+1 LHR 763

AC851 LHR 1105 1351 YYC 333
AC853 LHR 1615 1835 YYC 763



Versus last summer on YYC-LHR:

77W x 7: 2443
(333 x 7) + (763 x 4): 2695

Seat gain of 252, so in terms of weekly seats it's the equivalent of daily 77W + a single 333.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Acey

Holy shit shit shit THERE WAS A METHOD TO THE MADNESS. After 5 years away, AC852 has returned.

@airlineroute Air Canada increases Calgary - London Heathrow service from 7 to 9 weekly from 02MAY15, 11 weekly from 01JUN15 for summer season

AC850 YYC 1750 0935+1 LHR 333
AC852 YYC 1955 1150+1 LHR 763

AC851 LHR 1105 1351 YYC 333
AC853 LHR 1615 1835 YYC 763



Versus last summer on YYC-LHR:

77W x 7: 2443
(333 x 7) + (763 x 4): 2695

Seat gain of 252, so in terms of weekly seats it's the equivalent of daily 77W + a single 333.

Just saw that on twitter! Beat me to it darn!

Yes a method to the madness! Maybe really trying to stick it to BA!

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Acey

Holy shit shit shit THERE WAS A METHOD TO THE MADNESS. After 5 years away, AC852 has returned.

@airlineroute Air Canada increases Calgary - London Heathrow service from 7 to 9 weekly from 02MAY15, 11 weekly from 01JUN15 for summer season

AC850 YYC 1750 0935+1 LHR 333
AC852 YYC 1955 1150+1 LHR 763

AC851 LHR 1105 1351 YYC 333
AC853 LHR 1615 1835 YYC 763



Versus last summer on YYC-LHR:

77W x 7: 2443
(333 x 7) + (763 x 4): 2695

Seat gain of 252, so in terms of weekly seats it's the equivalent of daily 77W + a single 333.

I wouldn't go into the YEG airport thread for a while. Its going to ugly.

YEG-LHR is where 852/853 is getting the aircraft and LHR slots from.

Originally Posted by Cage

YEG-LHR is where 852/853 is getting the aircraft and LHR slots from.

Fudge. I was literally just about to hit submit on "I'm working to find out where the slot is coming from"

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Cage

I wouldn't go into the YEG airport thread for a while. Its going to ugly.

YEG-LHR is where 852/853 is getting the aircraft and LHR slots from.

Well it's just business. If AC thinks they will do better with more YYC-LHR flights... There you go. YEG has Icelandair and KLM anyway too now so not a bad offering of flights to Europe.

Just checked Amadeus and yup YEG-LHR definitely dropped to 3 weekly. Perhaps forward bookings for the summer were not great. KLM and Icelandair picking away at the pool of YEG-Europe pax. It doesn't take that much to turn a profitable route into the red.