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That frequency chart was made back when the Lincoln Fields-Bayshore section was supposed to BRT, in other words, before there was the split service Bayshore/Baseline. I imagine the chart would be a little different now.
     
     
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The big reveal

Matthew Pearson, Otawa Citizen
Published on: January 29, 2015, Last Updated: January 29, 2015 12:12 PM EST


The city will unveil at 1 p.m. Thursday a full-sized mock-up of the Alstom Citadis Spirit light rail vehicle, complete with OC Transpo customized design features, that will, in a few short years, transport thousands of residents between Tunney’s Pasture and Blair station.

As Mayor Jim Watson said in his state of the city speech Wednesday: “You will be able to not only see the train, but feel the train. You will be able to sit inside, look out the windows and get your first experience of the Confederation Line.”

Politicians of every stripe — including Watson, MP Royal Galipeau and provincial Transportation Minister Steven Del Duca and, no doubt, city councillors — will attend the formal affair at Lansdowne Park’s Aberdeen Pavilion.

As of Friday, the public can view the light rail vehicle between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. until the end of March.

The system won’t be fully operational until 2018.

Here, from the Citizen’s files, is some info about the new trains to whet your appetite or jog your memory until the big reveal.


From a Dec. 6, 2012 story by David Reevely and Neco Cockburn:

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The city is poised to award the biggest construction contract in its history to a consortium led by ACS Infrastructure, but Mayor Jim Watson made it clear Wednesday that he expects the project to be his legacy.

In a heavily stage-managed production at City Hall on Wednesday morning, full of dramatic lighting and brave rhetoric, Watson boasted that the Spanish-led consortium called Rideau Tran-sit Group will deliver the project as planned by 2018, just as he hopes to be finishing his second term as mayor. At $2.13 billion – a fixed price, solid and guaranteed barring some massive disaster – the price is within a rounding error of the $2.115-billion estimate city council signed off on in its last big vote on the project in July 2011.

It’s what Watson has promised and clearly he intends to deliver it. And nothing more.

A station outside the National Arts Centre, as some had hoped would be restored in the big announcement? Not there. The “Downtown East” station, which the rail planners considered moving east from Queen and O’Connor after moving the NAC station to the Rideau Centre, is staying put, too. Moving it would be too expensive. The city is contemplating an enclosed walkway that would connect the arts centre to the Rideau Centre, though.

Will the line be running in time for Canada’s 150th birthday in 2017? Not exactly. Major downtown construction is to be finished and the three downtown stations open for tours, if visitors care to take them, but the only rolling trains will be between Hurdman and Blair stations. They’ll be on tryout schedules, open to the public but not ready for commuters.

What happened to the curving roofs and wooden cladding the city showed off in its last showcase of station designs?

Those are mostly gone, replaced by more flat tops, edges, metal and concrete at the hands of Ottawa architect Ritchard Brisbin. Some of the design grace notes are still there – wood from ash trees killed by voracious emerald ash borers remains in a lot of accents – but the overall esthetic is more angular, cool and functional than it used to be.

“I’m happy with the stations. I really like the pedestrian access,” said Somerset Coun. Diane Holmes, whose ward includes the busiest stations. “The downtown ones are integrated into buildings, which is going to be really useful … The stations are very attractive, well lit, easily accessible.”

And from a Dec. 6 fact box about the train:

Name: Alstom Citadis.

Capacity: Each car as shown here holds 300 passengers. It can run as a single car or can be joined with others. They are fully accessible, featuring entrances level with station platforms.

Length: 49 metres.

Number: 30 vehicles would operate with a peak capacity of 10,700 passengers per hour in each direction.

Speed: Top speed is 100 km/h. The system can run trains as often at one minute and 45 seconds.

Travel time: 24 minutes from Tunney’s Pasture to Blair station.

Manufacturer: Alstom, based in France. Trains would be assembled in Ottawa. Alstom has sold more than 1,500 similar cars to more than 40 cities since 1997.


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Old Posted Jan 29, 2015, 6:34 PM
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Introducing the LRT Mockup:



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Video of the inside of the mockup:
http://live.ottawasun.com/Event/LIVE_Ottawa_provides_first_look_at_new_LRT_trains/143052654

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The city brought out this old bus as a contrast to what's about to be unveiled.
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So shiny! And bigger than I'd imagined. The interior is almost shockingly similar to OC's buses.

I can't wait to get down to Lansdowne to check it out myself!
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I think it was intended as a fairness measure. If all trains start at Baseline and half the traffic comes from Bayshore and points west then that half of the traffic will never get a seat on the trains they board at Lincoln Fields. This way each half gets equivalent service.

Of course Baseline standing folks have the option of hoping off at Lincoln Fields and facing a 3 minutes delay for a good chance at a seat. And Kanata folks in a rush can choose to stand and get 3 minute frequency.
And folks in the downtown core can have a bus that comes when it wants to, even if that's 20 minutes late, and have no choice but to stand. Yay!

Enjoy my taxes, Barrhaven.
     
     
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Is that like a catchphrase now?
Enjoy my taxes, Orleans.*

Also, the interior looks alot smaller with real people inside, compared to the CGI people.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2015, 8:47 PM
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WOW just an amazing piece at Lansdowne... Makes you think that we finally did it. WE MAKE AN LRT.

And yes it totally agree that it looks like a bus.


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So shiny! And bigger than I'd imagined. The interior is almost shockingly similar to OC's buses.

I can't wait to get down to Lansdowne to check it out myself!
I actually don't like to forward facing seat configuration that they're sticking with for parts of the train.

I recently took the metro in Tokyo and all the seats were side facing and I found that there was a lot more room to stand than there is when the seats are forward facing(like on OC Transpo buses)
     
     
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^ With low floor side seating doesn't work as well.
     
     
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and folks in the downtown core can have a bus that comes when it wants to, even if that's 20 minutes late, and have no choice but to stand. Yay!

Enjoy my taxes, barrhaven.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 12:48 AM
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Ottawa's LRT train revealed

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: January 29, 2015, Last Updated: January 29, 2015 5:17 PM EST


The future of Ottawa’s transportation system was unveiled Thursday at a splashy event at Lansdowne Park.

Two dozen politicians from three levels of government, senior city officials, rail executives, schoolchildren and the media were all on hand when a curtain dropped inside the Aberdeen Pavilion to reveal a full-sized Alstom Citadis Spirit light rail car — the same vehicle that will be used on the Confederation Line once it’s fully operational in 2018.

“It’s now starting to feel real that we’re going to get light rail in this city,” Mayor Jim Watson excitedly told reporters after climbing into the rail car following the formal program.



See for yourself

Starting Friday, the vehicle will be on public display in the Aberdeen Pavilion seven days a week, from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., until the end of March.

After that, it will be moved to OC Transpo headquarters on St. Laurent Road for driver training.

But Watson said he’s keen to get the car out to another location in the city, such as a shopping centre. “The more people that see this train, the more they come away pretty impressed with what this project is all about,” he said.

The featured car is a mock-up that measures 17 metres in length, including the control room where drivers will sit. The actual train is 48 metres long and can accommodate 300 passengers.



Rider experience

The Alstom train is designed for passengers, said the senior vice-president of the company’s North American operation. That means it’s fully accessible, has big windows, and doesn’t vibrate or make a lot of noise.

“You feel like you’re in your living room,” said Jérôme Wallut. “It’s quite comfortable.”

The display has a distinct new-car smell and the look and feel of other OC Transpo vehicles, including royal-blue seats and yellow grip poles.

In good company

In addition to the numerous European cities with similar models of Alstom trains, the company also has rail projects in a number of great North American cities, including Washington, D.C., Seattle, Miami and our neighbour to the east, Montreal.

What Chiarelli said

If history had played out differently, Ottawa could have celebrated this milestone years ago.

But Energy Minister Bob Chiarelli — the former mayor, whose 2006 plan for north-south light rail was scrapped not long after he lost that year’s municipal election to Larry O’Brien — didn’t want to talk about that on Thursday.

“I don’t want to re-hash history. This is where we are today,” he said, noting it was an exciting moment for Watson, city council and senior officials, such as city manager Kent Kirkpatrick.

“This is a real feather in their cap.”

What about Phase 2?

With a tangible train car now on display, attention turned to funding for the second phase of light rail, a $3-billion plan that would extend the system farther east, west and south.

“I never miss a chance to talk about that,” Watson said, noting the formal funding request will likely be made later this year.

The province has already committed to helping and the federal government will make its decision in the same spirit it did the earlier contribution, said Ottawa-Orléans MP Royal Galipeau.

“We’re now in 2015. The decision we made for Phase 1 was made five years ago, in completely different circumstances,” he said. “But the spirit has not changed.”

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Construction Update
Week of January 26




Booth Street Closure

Preparatory works began this week on the Albert Street Widening and the LeBreton Flats Diversion Chamber. For detailed information on the impacts please follow this link to the Public Service Announcement and Cyclist Detour Map: www.ottawa.ca/confederationline.


Lyon Station cavern works continue

Lyon Station Cavern

Lyon Station cavern reinforcement and construction is ongoing including pouring of concrete, installation of rebar and conduits.


Parliament Station cavern excavation

Parliament Station Cavern

Crews will work seven days a week at Parliament Station cavern for the next few months. Current activities include concrete pouring and excavation of ventilation pit.


Second roadheader moving to East Portal

Rideau Station Cavern

Crocodile Rouge continues excavating the tunnel top heading. Tunnel reinforcement is ongoing. Roadheader Jawbreaker has been relocated and reassembled at the East Portal where it begins excavation of the tunnel bench (bottom).


Scotiabank building roof demolition continues

Rideau Station

Exterior demolition of the existing Scotiabank building begins at the future location of the Rideau Station entrance (east). Overhead protection for pedestrians has been installed in advance of exterior demolition.


Forming and pouring of concrete slabs at Belfast Yard Administration and Maintenance Building

Belfast Yard Administration and Maintenance Building/Vehicle Storage Shed

Masonry work, cladding and panel installation advance for the building envelope. Construction of the internal components progresses and includes forming and pouring of concrete slabs, as well as plumbing and electrical works. Roofing continues on the shed.


Works on the Belfast Yard connector

Belfast Yard Connector

Works on the Belfast Yard connector, which allows vehicles to travel to and from the LRT track to Belfast Yard, are ongoing with excavation, rebar installation and pouring of the concrete bases and walls for the structures. Rockbolt installation for Belfast Road bridge’s piles continues.


Drilling for the installation of concrete caissons north of the existing Hurdman Station

Hurdman Station Area

Elevated guideway work continues with caisson drilling north of the existing Hurdman Station.


Highway 417 median works

Highway 417 Roadworks

Installation of electrical and light poles, median excavation and backfilling continue from Cyrville Road to Nicholas Street.


Lees Avenue overpass

Lees Avenue Overpass

General site cleanup is ongoing.


Girder installation at Hurdman Bridge continues

Hurdman Bridge

Mobilisation and girder installation, part of the reconstruction of the bridge’s median span, continue. Other activities include forming of the deck.


Concrete crushing at Vanier Parkway staging area

Vanier Parkway Overpass

Crushing of the old bridge’s concrete structure is ongoing at the staging area.


Final works are ongoing at the Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge

Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge

Works continue in anticipation of the bridge opening in early February and include the ceiling’s plumbing conduits and roof vent installation. Final works for the installation of railings on the stairs occurs as general site clean-up begins.


Belfast Bridge closure

Belfast Road Overpass

The installation of railing progresses on the bridge’s deck as long-term closure of Belfast Road, north of Tremblay Road to Coventry Road continues.

Upcoming Construction Activities

In the coming weeks/months, the following construction activities will advance:
• The roof of the Belfast Yard vehicle storage shed is scheduled for completion mid-winter.
• Lyon Station east entrance excavation is anticipated to begin late winter.
• Parliament Station utilities relocation work is scheduled this winter.
• Blair Station new bus loop construction is scheduled to begin early spring.

http://www.confederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-7/
     
     
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WOW just an amazing piece at Lansdowne... Makes you think that we finally did it. WE MAKE AN LRT.

And yes it totally agree that it looks like a bus.

The image looks great.

Any idea if they have the different rapid transit routes in a similar fashion?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2015, 3:32 AM
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How the Hamilton effect could hamper Phase 2 of Ottawa's LRT

Joanne Chianello, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: January 30, 2015, Last Updated: January 30, 2015 8:09 PM EST


It has been a week that brought us closer to the excitement of light rail, but also to the looming obstacles for our future ambitious plans.

Here in Ottawa, of course, we’re excited to get our first glimpse of an Alstrom train that will carry us on our LRT system some years hence. (The mock-up rail car is set up at Aberdeen Pavilion for everyone to climb aboard and play engineer for the month of February.)

As most of the work on the Confederation Line so far has been underground and out of sight, being able to sit in a rail car makes the project more real for many of us, even if it won’t be a reality for another three years.

And the Alstrom train is a concrete reminder of the aggressive expansion plan we have beyond 2018. Next week, there are three public meetings on the route for the eastern LRT plan. In a little more than a month, city and National Capital Commission officials will tell us whether they’re any closer to a compromise on the Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway portion of the western LRT route. And possibly by the end of the year, the city will apply to the provincial and federal levels of government to each fund one-third of the $980-million bill to extend rail to the east, west, south and to Algonquin College by 2023.

Despite some public bombast late last year over the western LRT route — it’ll be settled somehow — the biggest question mark hanging over Phase 2 is whether the federal government will ante up almost $1 billion. And after this week, the signs aren’t looking good that it will.

Why not? Because of Hamilton.

Earlier this week, the mayor of Hamilton met privately with Premier Kathleen Wynne where she apparently promised that the province would pay the entire $811-million tab for Hamilton’s planned LRT. (The province isn’t saying so explicitly, but the mayor is on the record saying that’s exactly what she told him, and his city manager, who was in on the meeting, agrees.)

Great deal, huh? It seems not to be good enough for some Hamilton councillors, who are still opposing light rail. That’s the problem for the fine people of The Hammer; why the province totally funds some municipalities’ rapid-transit systems and funds only part of the costs for others is our problem.

How does the province decide what project it’s going to fully fund?

Here’s what Ontario’s Minister of Transportation, Steven Del Duca, who was in town for the Alstrom train unveiling this week, answered: “When I think of all the transit projects we’ve invested in … we evaluate the feasibility on how best to move forward on a case-by-case basis and what makes sense.”

Yes, but how do you decide “what makes sense,” Minister?

“Again, we evaluate on a case-by-case basis. In this case here in Ottawa, you’re under construction and Hamilton is not under construction yet. There still is some additional work that needs to be done.”

It’s hard to know how Del Duca’s comments are relevant to how the province decided when to fully fund a city’s transit project, but here’s a guess: to alleviate congestion in the Greater Toronto Area, Hamilton needs to get on board with a rapid transit plan, and for that city’s LRT to feed into the GO commuter rail system between Hamilton and Toronto. It makes sense, except for the major problem that Hamilton doesn’t want to pay for an LRT. So the province is picking up the tab.

And after all, the province has promised tons of transit cash, right? Wynne’s government has announced that over the next decade, it will spend $29 billion on transportation projects, with $15 billion earmarked for the GTA and Hamilton, and “up to $14 billion” in the rest of Ontario.

The province has already vowed to fund a third of Ottawa’s next phase of light rail. The feds have been rather less enthusiastic.

MP Royal Galipeau, who represented the federal government at this week’s train-unveiling event, said that the Conservative government recognizes that municipalities can’t fund major infrastructure programs on their own. For Confederation Line, the province and the feds each contributed $600 million.

However, asked about the funding for light-rail expansion, Galipeau pointed out that “municipalities are creatures of the province.”

What does that mean? Well, he went on, if Ontario is “spending $29 billion in one province, and we’re spending $13 billion across the country, obviously it’s not even.”

Still less encouraging was Galipeau’s assurance that Ottawa’s application for funding will be reviewed “in the same spirit” as that for Phase 1, except that “the cash will be adjudicated in the economic circumstances of the time.”

Uh-oh.

He didn’t say it in so many words, but it’s easy to interpret the Ottawa-Orléans MP’s statements as hinting that the federal government will likely find some funds, but not $1 billion, for Phase 2 — and the province can pick up the rest. Or not.

If that unfortunate scenario unfolds, the province will have to ante up any shortfall. How could it not when there are other instances where the provincial government has paid for municipal transit projects in full?

At Ottawa’s VIP-packed train unveiling this week, Del Duca said, “What we see here is an extraordinary coming together of all three levels of government.”

The transportation minister likely didn’t realize how prophetic his comments might turn out to be.

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Well we need all the funding we can get.... so if the feds can only pay 500 or less or more million we will have to bound to accept anyway.
     
     
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Might be an interesting political drama about Phase 2 funding, potentially made all the more complicated by this year's federal election and the possible change of government.

I would not be surprised in the slightest, if the CPC is relected, to see the feds commit to something like $500M to Phase 2, instead of the $975M the city wants. Given the province's recent obedience to funding requests (notably, the 100% announcement for Hamilton when there were substantial signs the province was going to ask the city to contribute some), and the large value of that $13.9B non-GTHA fund relative to need, it is quite possible the province may contribute the gap by offering up $1.5B or something. I would prefer it, though, if the city dropped the Orleans extension in the event of a federal funding shortfall, which would shave about $750M of the cost of Phase 2.

I continue to maintain that the Orleans extension is not needed, as the section from Blair to Place D'Orleans currently performs just fine as BRT and could continue to do so for quite the foreseeable future. Furthermore, there would be very minimal (maybe 1-2 minutes) time savings of LRT compared to bus in the total travel time from Place D'Orleans to Blair. Yes it would eliminate a transfer in theory, but most of Orleans is going to be taking local buses from well beyond walking distance of the LRT line, so it really is just a matter of where the transfer happens for most.
     
     
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Here in Ottawa, of course, we’re excited to get our first glimpse of an Alstrom train that will carry us on our LRT system some years hence.
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And the Alstrom train is a concrete reminder of the aggressive expansion plan we have beyond 2018.
ALSTOM, not Alstrom. I can't believe the Citizen would make this typo twice in one article
     
     
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I think Joanne must have been in a hurry or tired when she wrote this piece. There are a number of things that can be quibbled with; for instance:

“…first glimpse of an Alstrom train that will carry us on our LRT system…”
This is, as mentioned a bit further along in the article, is not an Alstom train, it is a plywood mock-up and it resembles what the trains will look like, but we are not getting a glimpse of a train; and it will certainly not carry us any where.

“…being able to sit in a rail car makes the project more real…”
I’m happy that sitting in a mock-up of part of a train makes things seem more real for her. I suppose the MISTER (PRT pod) here during the 2006 mayoral election would have made her believe that that was ‘real’ also.


“…the city will apply to the provincial and federal levels of government to each fund one-third of the $980-million bill to extend rail to the east, west, south and to Algonquin College by 2023.
It would be great if the entire cost of extending the tracks east, west, south (east – the Trillium Line extension), and to Algonquin College was only going to be $980M! Getting each upper level of government to ante-up $327M would be comparatively easy. But alas, I believe that that amount is only the estimated cost of the extension from Tunney’s Pasture to Algonquin College; and even that will increase if the NCC insists on more of the line being buried. The last number that I heard was that it will cost about $3B to do all of the Stage 2 rail.

And then there is the last line:
The transportation minister likely didn’t realize how prophetic his comments might turn out to be.
What does that mean in the context of the article? Are the three levels coming together to fund the plan? Are the funding responsibilities of the three levels being coming together to all be allocated to the Province? I know that she wrote it to leave people thinking; but I’m afraid that I’m just left scratching my head.

This is not one of her better articles.
     
     
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That frequency chart was made back when the Lincoln Fields-Bayshore section was supposed to BRT, in other words, before there was the split service Bayshore/Baseline. I imagine the chart would be a little different now.
Yah. Like I said, it's a split that makes sense if the alternative is all trains starting at Baseline. With trains starting at Baseline and Bayshore the two groups should have equivalent service.

Not sure how to keep it equivalent when they extend past those two points. Kanata might be a lot easier to convert to LRT. But Barrhaven might face more road congestion and have more demand for LRT. Tough choices for another generation.
     
     
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