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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 1:55 PM
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Yeah, in the 80s and 90s, I remember Ontario winters as brutally cold, always lots of snow on the ground, and green Christmases were few and far between. It has definitely been much milder in the last decade than when I lived there!
Really? I don't remember that at all. I didn't even have boots in high school (89-93) and I walked 20 minutes there and back every day. Very little snow to play in when I was a kid.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 2:43 PM
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Sunny and 0c for the high, 2c for tomorrow. I can't wait till we see our average high start rising, only a couple weeks to wait.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 3:13 PM
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Currently 7 to 10 in Victoria this morning at 7am with light rain. High of 9 forecast for today.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 3:53 PM
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Really? I don't remember that at all. I didn't even have boots in high school (89-93) and I walked 20 minutes there and back every day. Very little snow to play in when I was a kid.
Where did you grow up? The east-west gap in Ontario is pretty striking, Ottawa is colder than Kingston, Kingston is colder than Toronto, Toronto is colder than London, and London is colder than Windsor. The difference between Ottawa and Toronto is actually quite big considering the short distance and similar geography... The average January temperature differs by a full 5 degrees C between the two cities, for example.

Also, don't fall pray to the common weather perception fallacy of equating cold with snow. Snowy winter != Cold winter. This January so far has been colder than normal but also significantly less snowy than normal. People will thus remember this winter as a 'warm/mild' winter even though its not, because of the common fallacy of associating a winter's coldness with snowfall level.

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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 4:00 PM
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Here's a graph that demonstrates quite well that temperatures are indeed rising even if it appears over a short-term (less than 5 year) period that they're not.


(Source: Environment Canada)

This is the average national temperature from 1948 to 2013. As you can see, despite the fact that it fluctuates massively with some years being a lot colder than previous years, and there being some multi-year periods where it appeared temperatures were dropping (like in the late 1980s, for example), the overall trendline is up. Notice from that from 1997-ish to 2013, the annual temp never fell below the 1961-1990 average!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 4:38 PM
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I remember people being critical of my statement Hamilton was snowier than Toronto.

http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/accountabi...anning-and-performance-management/road-0
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 4:40 PM
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Getting up to +8 today for Edmonton.

It did hit +10 here yesterday at 3pm according to Gov Can though walking around it t-shirt and shorts it felt more like 12 or 13 at times. The only bad thing about this weather is jogging through the slush is a PITA.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 4:46 PM
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Where did you grow up? The east-west gap in Ontario is pretty striking, Ottawa is colder than Kingston, Kingston is colder than Toronto, Toronto is colder than London, and London is colder than Windsor. The difference between Ottawa and Toronto is actually quite big considering the short distance and similar geography... The average January temperature differs by a full 5 degrees C between the two cities, for example.

Also, don't fall pray to the common weather perception fallacy of equating cold with snow. Snowy winter != Cold winter. This January so far has been colder than normal but also significantly less snowy than normal. People will thus remember this winter as a 'warm/mild' winter even though its not, because of the common fallacy of associating a winter's coldness with snowfall level.
Wallaceburg, which is in a spot that gets very little snow. Especially in SW Ontario, there are big variations in the amount of snow over small distances.

To give another example when I was a kid in the 1980s, there was a big schoolyard near my house that was always flooded. I can count on my fingers the number of times where we could actually skate on it. It was usually water or only partially frozen. Usually it froze at night and became slushy in the day.

Nevertheless, it was still cold enough that nearby Mitchell's Bay (in Lake St. Clair) always froze over enough for people to go ice fishing. Though there were always stories about vehicles falling through the ice. It's a very shallow bay and the water is cold because it comes from the north.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 6:21 PM
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Flying out of Edmonton yesturday morning saw what looked like a Chinook arch. Now today in Vancouver heavey clouds and rain,, rain, rain, rain. Good thing I get to sit in a coaching conference all weekend..
     
     
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Flying out of Edmonton yesturday morning saw what looked like a Chinook arch. Now today in Vancouver heavey clouds and rain,, rain, rain, rain. Good thing I get to sit in a coaching conference all weekend..
Within the last 24 hours, my backyard has gone from being completely dry to being as flooded as it's ever been! Must have been a heavy downpour all through the night.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 7:52 PM
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My weather today ?

Tropical

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 8:44 PM
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^ Same here - I'm in currently in Maui.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 10:39 PM
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My weather for the next few days is subtropical

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2015, 10:51 PM
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My weather for the next few days is subtropical

I hope you guys enjoy it
It's a real gift for the beginning of 2015 !
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2015, 1:05 AM
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Made it to 10 today, was a lovely day walking around taking pictures of the city and construction sites. Was cloudy until about 4 pm though, but got some sun for the hour and a half before sunset
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2015, 5:25 AM
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I remember people being critical of my statement Hamilton was snowier than Toronto.

http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/accountabi...anning-and-performance-management/road-0
Haha I can guarantee you these numbers are plain wrong. Hamilton no way in hell receives anything close to 220cm annually. Chop those numbers in half. Barrie (a huge snow belt city) only receives 230cm of a snow per year. Toronto is on the high side as well as their number should be under 130cm at Pearson and under 90cm downtown. I wouldn't put much credibility in those figures at all. I know Burlington only receives around 110cm of snow per year. So Hamilton would be quite similar.

That table must be for a specific year, a very snowy one at that.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2015, 8:12 AM
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Sitting at 12/13 in Victoria @ midnight, partly cloudy. Nice walk home from poker game..mild. I believe we hit 14 at one point (late) Friday, with a low of 7/8.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2015, 12:41 PM
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My weather for the next few days is subtropical

Weirdest weather in Canada. Had snowstorms in the summer, now it's 16 in January. Talk about a mind —.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2015, 3:39 PM
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Environment Canada is now calling for 20C in Calgary on Monday, will be interesting to see if they get this high... if so it will be an ALL TIME HIGH in Calgary ever for January. The current record is 17C.

Today will be the 12th day in a row in Calgary where daytime highs have been above 0C.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2015, 5:01 PM
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The west has been very spoiled when it comes to winter temperatures the past couple years, and the east has been punished with below normal temps. I guess it's making up for the amazingly warm winter of 2012 that we had in the east. At least this year is nothing like 2014, with that horrible Polar Vortex that smashed records in the middle and eastern part of the country.
     
     
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