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Old Posted Jan 8, 2015, 2:25 PM
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I wouldn't say it's updated. It's the same as it was when it was released in May.

The whole Westerra/Horizons development is a bizarre gamble on Harvard's part. They're adding a whole retail node at the very end of residential development. Of course it's not as odd as Walmart's apparent desire to go on the Keeseekoose land.
Whoah! First I heard that, but it is on their website:

http://www.keeseekoose.com/economic_development.html

Wherever Walmart goes lots of other retail seems to follow, so maybe Harvard knows what they are doing.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2015, 4:30 PM
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The guys at Olivers Menswear on 1900 hundred block Hamilton St. tell me the new retail development right beside their store is going to be FYI Optometry,they are also located in Harbour Landing.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2015, 4:36 PM
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The guys at Olivers Menswear on 1900 hundred block Hamilton St. tell me the new retail development right beside their store is going to be FYI Optometry,they are also located in Harbour Landing.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2015, 4:58 PM
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Whoah! First I heard that, but it is on their website:

http://www.keeseekoose.com/economic_development.html

Wherever Walmart goes lots of other retail seems to follow, so maybe Harvard knows what they are doing.
With the new sewage treatment plant under construction will the current settling ponds/lagoons, particularly the ones right between Keeseekoose and the west regina bypass, be decommissioned? Those sewage lagoons are going to be a real .... impediment for whatever residential keeseekoose may be planning.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2015, 5:09 PM
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With the new sewage treatment plant under construction will the current settling ponds/lagoons, particularly the ones right between Keeseekoose and the west regina bypass, be decommissioned? Those sewage lagoons are going to be a real .... impediment for whatever residential keeseekoose may be planning.
I would sincerely hope they would be decommissioning it, but who knows. Would be an expensive clean-up job.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2015, 5:43 PM
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With the new sewage treatment plant under construction will the current settling ponds/lagoons, particularly the ones right between Keeseekoose and the west regina bypass, be decommissioned? Those sewage lagoons are going to be a real .... impediment for whatever residential keeseekoose may be planning.
I am not sure those are even sewage lagoons. The main lagoons are to the NW, downstream.

Edit. Those are Spectra Energy's ponds. You can see they have the same set up at their Richardson propane facility:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.3582373,-104.3954672,672m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
     
     
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I know you are all dying to know what ponds have to do with propane, so I researched it for you:

Once operational, as NGLs are pumped into the cavern for storage, brine is displaced to the surface and deposited in large brine ponds. To remove NGLs from storage for delivery to customers, brine from the surface ponds is allowed back into the cavern, displacing NGLs to the surface.
Because NGLs, such as propane, butane and ethane are lighter than brine, they will float on top of the brine within the caverns. To inject products into the cavern, the products are pumped down the outer annulus of the pipe casings and the brine is displaced up and out of the inner brine pipe. The reverse operation brings product out of the cavern by pumping in the brine and retrieving the product.

https://www.keyera.com/titanweb/keyera/w...25768500707E23?OpenDocument#.VK7cvZ34CUk
     
     
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thanks Stormer - thats interesting. I always thought those were tied to the sewage system. I guess they won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
     
     
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I know you are all dying to know what ponds have to do with propane, so I researched it for you:

Once operational, as NGLs are pumped into the cavern for storage, brine is displaced to the surface and deposited in large brine ponds. To remove NGLs from storage for delivery to customers, brine from the surface ponds is allowed back into the cavern, displacing NGLs to the surface.
Because NGLs, such as propane, butane and ethane are lighter than brine, they will float on top of the brine within the caverns. To inject products into the cavern, the products are pumped down the outer annulus of the pipe casings and the brine is displaced up and out of the inner brine pipe. The reverse operation brings product out of the cavern by pumping in the brine and retrieving the product.

https://www.keyera.com/titanweb/keyera/w...25768500707E23?OpenDocument#.VK7cvZ34CUk
That is interesting... Also a little weird. I mean the explosion north of Saskatoon where it forced evacuations of the surrounding neighborhoods. Is that a similar "storage facility" that close to Regina?

Thanks for the information Stormer.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2015, 10:04 PM
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That is interesting... Also a little weird. I mean the explosion north of Saskatoon where it forced evacuations of the surrounding neighborhoods. Is that a similar "storage facility" that close to Regina?

Thanks for the information Stormer.
In fact it exploded 2 years ago. No injuries.

http://www.canada.com/news/regina/Photos...+building+west+Regina/6601942/story.html
     
     
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Great! I was also wondering about the likelihood of a blowout as soon as I read it was a storage cavern.
     
     
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The Leader Post released an image showing all of the water main breaks in Regina from 2009 to 2014. Interesting data, as a water main break typically occurs because of soil shifting and a general "muddy" nature of the ground.



This data confirms what everyone already knew: Whitmore Park/Hillsdale is a swamp. Also impressive because it shows South East regina is stable as can be. One break around the Arcola/University Park Dr. area and that's it for entire area. The rest of the city seems a bit hit-and-miss with some definite problems in the Douglas Park, New Lakeview and North Central areas.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2015, 3:17 PM
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The Leader Post released an image showing all of the water main breaks in Regina from 2009 to 2014. Interesting data, as a water main break typically occurs because of soil shifting and a general "muddy" nature of the ground.



I think this data confirms that Whitmore Park/Hillsdale is a swamp and that South East regina is stable as can be. The rest of the city seems a bit hit-and-miss.
Interesting that Lakeridge - Lakewood - Westhill areas are also good. But I think we all knew that Whitmore park and Hillsdale were an issue from the time they started filling in the swamp... Unless you have piles going down a long way, and have a structural basement slab your house is a geological roller-coaster.
     
     
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Interesting that Lakeridge - Lakewood - Westhill areas are also good. But I think we all knew that Whitmore park and Hillsdale were an issue from the time they started filling in the swamp... Unless you have piles going down a long way, and have a structural basement slab your house is a geological roller-coaster.
The pipes in Whitmore Park are 30 years older than in those areas. Clearly WP has an issue, but all newer areas appear to have much less of a problem and the very new areas have no breaks at all.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2015, 4:29 PM
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The pipes in Whitmore Park are 30 years older than in those areas. Clearly WP has an issue, but all newer areas appear to have much less of a problem and the very new areas have no breaks at all.
Indeed, better backfill, more expansion joints, better materials, and better connections. Nothing is break-proof, but it can be mitigated.
     
     
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The pipes in Whitmore Park are 30 years older than in those areas. Clearly WP has an issue, but all newer areas appear to have much less of a problem and the very new areas have no breaks at all.
Yes, materials is also an issue with various pipe type experiments over different time periods. Didn't Whitmore also have the waxed cardboard type sewage pipe as well?
     
     
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The pipes in Whitmore Park are 30 years older than in those areas. Clearly WP has an issue, but all newer areas appear to have much less of a problem and the very new areas have no breaks at all.
Also notice that Albert Park (if you stay north of Gordon) is the exact same age as Whitmore Park and has significantly less breaks.
     
     
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Yesterday, CBC News stated that there were $100 million fewer building permits for Regina in '14 vs. '13.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2015, 7:19 PM
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Yesterday, CBC News stated that there were $100 million fewer building permits for Regina in '14 vs. '13.
True and last year the stadium and water treatment plant were in there.
     
     
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