Downtown Vancouver Updates

[Vin]

Originally Posted by vancouver604

Perhaps instead of creating more social housing and shelters in Vancouver they could spread it out like to Richmond or out towards Marine Drive and Boundary or Arbutus and Marine. The city is concentrating too much social housing in the downtown core and false creek which is a problem in itself.

Yeah, and I wonder why not by City Hall, Broadway, Cambie, Main or Kits? Why must they all be concentrated around Granville area? Authorities should realize that the area has been experiencing more littering, vandalism and transients roaming around lately.

[EdinVan]

Originally Posted by Darren Tate

Ew. More poor people? There goes the neighbourhood!

/sarcasm

I know, eh? The nerve.

[EdinVan]

Originally Posted by Vin

Yeah, and I wonder why not by City Hall, Broadway, Cambie, Main or Kits? Why must they all be concentrated around Granville area? Authorities should realize that the area has been experiencing more littering, vandalism and transients roaming around lately.

Why don't we just stick them in a forest somewhere -- because, really, that's where most people on this forum would like them to go. Out of sight, out of mind, right?

Shame.

[EdinVan]

Originally Posted by Vin

That one is actually a nuthouse.

So insulting

[WarrenC12]

If the DTES is any example, concentrating the problem makes it worse, not better.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by EdinVan

Why don't we just stick them in a forest somewhere -- because, really, that's where most people on this forum would like them to go. Out of sight, out of mind, right?

Shame.

It should have occurred to civic government that they will never "solve" the homeless problem. The more you build the more will come. The easier it gets to be unemployed and housed, the more that will take advantage of it. When the choice was get your shit together or starve, there was a lot more motivation to get basic employment. Harsh, but that's life.

If I was a resident of downtown south I'd be more than pissed about the amount of social housing that is being dumped into the neighbourhood. There is that nice vacant lot across from city hall, maybe the mayor should practise what he preaches and build one there, or take over the derelict Plaza Hotel.

[Caliplanner]

Originally Posted by Darren Tate

Too much social housing? What are you implying exactly?

Too much concentrated social housing leads to the creation of ghettos!!!

[Vin]

Why don't the City of Vancouver give the homeless work (eg garbage collection, street cleaning, etc) to pay for their subsidized housing? They can even be the City's anti-graffiti crew. If they don't work, their rooms would be given to someone else who would.

On another note, there is a homeless young man with a huge placard sign on his back saying that he would rather do work than sit around and beg. He has been picking up litter around the city streets and I've spotted him around Granville all the way to Robson near BC Place Stadium. I always give him some change whenever I see him. I hope more will be like him: he's got a future and deserves permanent shelter.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by EdinVan

Why don't we just stick them in a forest somewhere -- because, really, that's where most people on this forum would like them to go. Out of sight, out of mind, right?

Shame.

No, we want our forests to stay pristine and free of any kind of abuse. They are not dumping grounds, and so is the case for one City neighbourhood. You don't concentrate so many new subsidized housing units in one neighbourhood just so others would remain free of them. That is the true 'out of sight, out of mind' mentality and the real shame.

[logan5]

Harsh words from a supposedly kind hearted christian.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by logan5

Harsh words from a supposedly kind hearted christian.

Your scorn for me is duly noted.

[Spork]

I think that most of us agree that the concentration of social housing is not a good thing (case in point: DTES). The question is, what level of concentration is acceptable? While clustering it all in the DTES is not acceptable to most, do we feel that clustering it all on the downtown peninsula (or Granville South and around False Creek, as some point out) is an acceptable level of dispersion so that these people can become independent and self sufficient and not have negative effects on a neighbourhood? If not, is dispersion across Vancouver better, or perhaps the broader Lower Mainland, or even across BC?

The issue that I have is lack of clarity around what framework the city and province are using to decide upon questions such as location, and why they are using such a framework. Too many independent "societies" operating their own programs with too little data to create and support a proper best practices model.

[Delirium]

here's the new B5 sign. doesn't look bad however odd it is to have it there. side note, metrotown is looking big!

by me

[officedweller]

Thanks.

The original of that pic also showed how Bentall III and Bentall IV went from having nicely integrated logos to 2 of the worst.

[SpongeG]

they can't move them out to richmond, richmond is not part of the city of vancouver, it's a different city...

[Vanelevatorman]

I'm no moderator on here, but perhaps the homeless discussion should be moved to another thread?

[Tommyrey]

Did anyone see this video of a skyscraper fireworks display in Taiwan? Don't know how they did it if this is an existing building (vs one under construction) but it would be a fab display in Vancouver.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/taiwan-...5/Comcast/Today_in_Video?cid=hero_sf_TIV

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by Tommyrey

Did anyone see this video of a skyscraper fireworks display in Taiwan? Don't know how they did it if this is an existing building (vs one under construction) but it would be a fab display in Vancouver.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/taiwan-...5/Comcast/Today_in_Video?cid=hero_sf_TIV

Agree, but remember this is NoFunCity.

[Locked In]

New 2-storey commercial building at Denman and Nelson (not sure if any is pre-leased) - my photos from today:


IMG_4762 by 604 City, on Flickr


IMG_4763 by 604 City, on Flickr

[Prometheus]

Here are some renders of the "origami" tower--possibly to be called Waterfront Tower--proposed for 555 West Cordova Street. However, these are apparently older renders created before the architects understood that their design offended city hall's viewcones. Thus, the actual proposal will be even shorter than shown. From changingcitybook.com:

Here’s another intriguing project that we’ve been waiting to see a design for. Currently listed as a Development Permit Board candidate for March 2015, this is an office tower that has been seen by the Gastown Historic Area Planning Committee a couple of times over the past year, but has yet to be seen by the Urban Design Panel.

We came across a Vimeo sequence created by Piranha NYC, a creative studio based in SoHo New York City that features a design for the Waterfront Tower. This is not exactly the project that will be going forward – it appears to have been created about a year ago when the development was based on a miscalculation of the view limit across the site, but our guess is that the current proposal should look quite like this, but slightly shorter.

Source: http://changingcitybook.com/2015/01/02/555-west-cordova-street/


Source: http://changingcitybook.com/2015/01/02/555-west-cordova-street/