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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 4:24 PM
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Agreed, timeless and awe inspiring.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 4:39 PM
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oh come on.

now you are just playing to the gallery.


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Now imagine seeing that coming into view after leaving your home and everyone you know, with almost no belongings to your name, and spending a couple of weeks jammed like sardines on a ship crossing the ocean...

And then the Statue of Liberty also comes into view just across the water...
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 5:14 PM
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And for the record, that historic picture of New York is beyond awesome.
Lower Manhattan of 1929-1959 is the best skyline in history. It will never be bested. It was a singular achievement.



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Sure, it is possible to subjectively prefer Irkutsk's commieblocks to lower manhattan's spires. It is also possible to hold the opinion that Nickelback is better than the Beatles (or for that matter, that Nickelback has more musically talented than either Mozart or Beethoven). One can hold these beliefs. But one must expect that a certain amount of ridicule will arise from expressing these vantage points.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 6:24 PM
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People are really over reacting. I was just responding to a guy saying that Montreal and whatnot were 70s Soviet designed by teasing him.

I don't prefer Irkutsk to New York. I do however prefer Hong Kong to New York.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 9:19 PM
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Lower Manhattan of 1929-1959 is the best skyline in history. It will never be bested. It was a singular achievement.
If I had three wishes, one of them would be to visit New York during that time period.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 9:40 PM
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Yup - best skyline in history.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 9:44 PM
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That Singer building was so beautiful.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 10:04 PM
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If I had three wishes, one of them would be to visit New York during that time period.
I don't know about everyone else, but what I love about the pre-war Lower Manhattan skyline was just how audacious and unabashedly ostentatious it was. Those days are gone, but you can see the same mentality at work in Shanghai's Pudong skyline today.

I know, I know. Somebody's going to chime in now and tell me that the two are incomparable, because Shanghai's skyline looks like some gaudy Buck Rogers fantasy world, complete with balls on sticks and buildings with holes in them. But I also think that Old Europeans of the time probably thought that the idea of putting the Mausoleum of Helicarnassus on top of a skyscraper or using a 500 ft. facsimile of the Giralda or the St. Mark's Campanile to sell life insurance was ceaselessly tacky and affected.

Anyway, to bring this back to Canada, I find it a tad disappointing that we don't approach skyscraper building with the same madness as New Yorkers did 100 years ago and the Chinese do today. That's not to say that I want us to slavishly demolish our historic neighbourhoods and throw up the latest whiz-bang skyscraper, or that I obsess over the height of new buildings, but it's a bit deflating to realize that, despite the addition of millions of square feet of residential and office space in the last 12 years, Toronto's tallest building is still a white box from 1975; that Calgary's unprecedented office boom leads office developers to one-up each other by several feet, rather than by several hundred feet; that we fawn over PoMo skyscrapers like Scotia Plaza, because it was unabashedly opulent right down to the details on its staircase handrails, and every office tower built since the mid-1990s in Toronto has been some variation of a rather fat glass box with a rather pedestrian lobby.

Now, that's not to say that we haven't made impressive additions to our skylines. We have built the Bow and the L tower and there are some things to look forward to down the road like Telus Sky and the Vancouver House. But given the volume of construction in Canadian cities, bold statements like these come once in a blue moon. It doesn't have to be like this. Philadelphia might have built just 20 highrises in the past 10 years, but 2 of them were outstanding; New York city seems to have gotten a second [third?] wind, and is back to work throwing up 1,400 foot pencils into the sky. Even San Francisco, with a skyline that once seemed to have been planned by concerned mothers, is putting up bold new skyscrapers these days. What gives, Canada?
     
     
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I would say Dubai is closer to 30s New York than Shanghai.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 11:37 PM
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I've seen that second picture of QC before. Gorgeous. One of my favourite all-time shots of anywhere ever.
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nope, not everyone feels that way. in fact, the new york of that era pretty much gave the world the term "skyline", at least in its contemporary use as the silhouette of a city's most prominent buildings. it was in that city, along with chicago, that the concept of the skyscraper was conceived and first elaborated upon, and its for this reason that "standing by" your dislike of it for whatever reason appears as a shallow statement.

one might prefer modern architecture, or modern sculpture (say). but that doesn't mean that it doesn't sound strange and blithe for someone who really likes giacometti to just "dislike" donatello.

one very much comes from the other. there's a history there, a record of subsequent innovation that is part of an informed take on the subject.

to just flatten the history of sculpture into a series of random images to be selected from according to private taste... well, people will find your views odd and lacking coherence. they will not reflect the subject as a human endeavour.

this is why you see opposition here, i think. it's not 100% subjective.
I don't like New York's skyline all that much either, now or definetely not before.

Your argument is rather strange. If I'm a heavy metal fan, does that mean I automatically have to like the blues because that's what it came from?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2014, 10:33 AM
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yeah, i'd argue that you'd have a certain respect for the blues, even if you never listened to it.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2014, 2:12 PM
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Lower Manhattan of 1929-1959 is the best skyline in history. It will never be bested. It was a singular achievement.

Google "Andreas Feininger photography" you'll be in heaven (trust me),
post some of his shots if you have the time
     
     
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On that picture, the paper mill on the far left... was on fire yesterday:



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Old Posted Nov 29, 2014, 5:51 PM
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yeah, i'd argue that you'd have a certain respect for the blues, even if you never listened to it.
In the same way that I respect New York's skyline objectively, the height, density, architecture etc. but I don't necessarily have to like it.
     
     
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It's just a question of city pride, nobody likes to have their city bashed by someone else...
Having civic pride is one thing. Equating not liking aspects of a skyline to city bashing is ridiculous. People can rip my city's skyline apart for all I care. People aren't assholes if they don't like it. All that matters is that I like where I live.

Are people supposed to lie about liking things you like so as not to offend you? That's just weird.
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The Montreal skyline can be unimpressive from certain angles. But from other vantage points it can look massive. The view from the Champlain Bridge is my personal favourite.


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I've never seen it from there and prefer that vantage point as well. It looks superb from there.
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