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Old Posted Nov 27, 2014, 11:18 PM
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There was 10cm on my car and it literally took one minute to clean because of how light the snow is. Also -15 right now but I barely even notice it. Winter here is a different species.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2014, 11:21 PM
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2014, 11:23 PM
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There is a snow squall warning for south - central Alberta (including Calgary) tomorrow morning, never seen that before...
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2014, 11:38 PM
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There is a snow squall warning for south - central Alberta (including Calgary) tomorrow morning, never seen that before...
It's all these — Ontarians moving to Alberta. Stealing our jobs and bringing their weather with them.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:05 AM
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Really warm, 14C and cloudy.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:06 AM
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Also -15 right now but I barely even notice it. Winter here is a different species.
What is different about it... This is the hard thing to explain to people who haven't experience it.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:14 AM
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Also -15 right now but I barely even notice it. Winter here is a different species.
Don't even try it
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:19 AM
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Yep, the chief Canadian meteorologist of Environment Canada says there's no difference between temps in Eastern/Western Canada, but hey what does he know! He's only studied weather for 40+ years...

All I know is this... the minus 35 wind chill Calgary is going to feel tomorrow afternoon will be cold. No different then if Quebec or Ontario were to get the same temps. Cold is cold. I've been outside many winters in Ontario when it's minus 20 and very little breeze and it doesn't actually feel that cold. The point is... a temperature is a temperature.... it's an exact science.

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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:21 AM
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There was 10cm on my car and it literally took one minute to clean because of how light the snow is. Also -15 right now but I barely even notice it. Winter here is a different species.
I agree... -15 in November is insane.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:23 AM
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"Don't even try it" goes for everyone
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:26 AM
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Yep, the chief Canadian meteorologist of Environment Canada says there's no difference between temps in Eastern/Western Canada, but hey what does he know! He's only studied weather for 40+ years...

All I know is this... the minus 35 wind chill Calgary is going to feel tomorrow morning will be cold. No different then if Quebec or Ontario were to get the same temps. Cold is cold. I've been outside many winters in Ontario when it's minus 20 and very little breeze and it doesn't actually feel that cold. The point is... a temperature is a temperature.... it's an exact science.
Where are you seeing this? coldest I see is -22 windchill for tomorrow.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:28 AM
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So, good news today.

Last year, we suffered through rolling blackouts during an extended cold snap. Our utility simply couldn't meet the demand. It went as low as -18C and stayed below freezing for, I believe, our longest consecutive period ever - and well below freezing. Many days were below -5C.

Then we had the storm, #darknl, the works.

They said at the time that rolling blackouts could continue until 2017 if temperatures got that cold again.

But today they announced the improvements they made over the summer mean the utility is confident it can meet demand this winter.

N.L. Hydro says ready for winter

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Leaders at Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro say they’re confident in the ability of the utility to meet power demands on the island of Newfoundland as the winter cold sets in.

“Hydro has executed a thorough and complete plan to ensure winter readiness and reliable service to our customers — safe, reliable and least-cost power,” said Scott Crosbie, Hydro’s chief operating officer, at a press conference started shortly after at 1 p.m.

The utility called reporters to Hydro Place in St. John’s to update where the utility stands in terms of its ability to provide power to island customers.

Under the watch of the provincial Public Utilities Board, Hydro has been tackling an aggressive program of maintenance, system review and the addition of new generation, in the wake of rolling blackouts and unplanned power outages that struck the island power system in January.
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2014-11-27/article-3953628/N.L.-Hydro-says-ready-for-winter/1
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:29 AM
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Really warm, 14C and cloudy.
Definetly a 'warm' 14 here too ... Although it just got a bit windy with a shower ... A warm november rain haha

Cold coming this weekend!

Edit: and just like that shower done... Not even 5mins lots of rainbows today ... Awesome

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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:34 AM
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I agree... -15 in November is insane.
I found -8 with a wind hard to handle out there last week ...bitter cold .. But i wasn't acclimatized to that level of cold ... The calm -18 didn't feel much worse tho...

Mind you, you automatically reduce your exposure without even thinking about it much.. So didn't stay outside more than 10mins at a time... Even with heavy winter coat gloves and hat. Crazy.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:43 AM
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What is different about it... This is the hard thing to explain to people who haven't experience it.
Well people will try to tell you it's because Ontario has a "humid cold", which is absolutely not true because it's physically impossible. When the temperature dips below freezing its capacity to hold water is super low, so even if the relative humidity is 70% there could be less water in the air than a summer day with 30% humidity.

I wanted to make sure people understand I'm not voodoo science here for my reasoning before I give the actual reason.

It's because of the wind. Edmonton has barely any wind, growing up by the shores of Lake Ontario I'm used to lots of wind every day. Edmonton might get a half hour stretch where the wind goes up to 35 km/hr for maybe 20 min, but then it dies down again. In the GTA, especially areas close to the water, 35 km/hr is pretty typical for huge portions. I've often driven across the Burlington Skyway and it felt like my car was gonna blow into the lake.

So -15C at 10km/hr wind is easy-breezy. Barely even feel it. -15C with 35km/hr wind? It goes through your gloves. Even -5C can feel frighteningly cold at times because it's fairly common for wind speeds to reach over 50 km/hr by the lake. Two days ago it got up to 70km/hr apparently.

So yes, it feels different.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:45 AM
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I agree... -15 in November is insane.
No arguments there. Our forecast high for Saturday and Sunday is -18 and -19.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:50 AM
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Where are you seeing this? coldest I see is -22 windchill for tomorrow.
http://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/ab-52_metric_e.html


Minus 34 actually is the projected windchill in Calgary tomorrow according to Environment Canada. From looking at the models myself, this is quite likely. And sorry I meant to say afternoon, not morning.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 12:52 AM
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Well people will try to tell you it's because Ontario has a "humid cold", which is absolutely not true because it's physically impossible. When the temperature dips below freezing its capacity to hold water is super low, so even if the relative humidity is 70% there could be less water in the air than a summer day with 30% humidity.

I wanted to make sure people understand I'm not voodoo science here for my reasoning before I give the actual reason.

It's because of the wind. Edmonton has barely any wind, growing up by the shores of Lake Ontario I'm used to lots of wind every day. Edmonton might get a half hour stretch where the wind goes up to 35 km/hr for maybe 20 min, but then it dies down again. In the GTA, especially areas close to the water, 35 km/hr is pretty typical for huge portions. I've often driven across the Burlington Skyway and it felt like my car was gonna blow into the lake.

So -15C at 10km/hr wind is easy-breezy. Barely even feel it. -15C with 35km/hr wind? It goes through your gloves. Even -5C can feel frighteningly cold at times because it's fairly common for wind speeds to reach over 50 km/hr by the lake. Two days ago it got up to 70km/hr apparently.

So yes, it feels different.


That'd explain why people from the prairies (i.e. Ayreonaut) find it so cold here despite the much milder winter temperatures.

I also think dress plays a role. They'll go downtown with us dressed like us - a pea coat with no hat and no gloves. They probably don't dress like that during winter at home.

I didn't notice a huge difference as the result of the wind. I was generally freezing all winter long on the prairies. The feeling of everything being cold and hard was completely foreign - crunchy snow, plugging vehicles in, creaking/clunking in the car, plastic cars shattering in fender-benders, exhaust fog, etc. It was all new.

Now I've been cold here before - all the time during the winter. Fingers numb, cheeks red, a chill up my back that just won't go away.

There are places that are exposed to the wind - Signal Hill, Cape Spear, etc. - where I can only last a few moments out of the car before having to surrender and jumping back in.

But it's still not as cold. I could never wear the jacket I had in Winnipeg here. It'd be a sauna. Especially downtown. It's still doable all day with just a t-shirt/sweater/light jacket. Things are still wet and soft and quiet and... to me, have their normal strength/texture.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 1:04 AM
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Our region is now under a high avalanche threat. Anyone else
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 1:06 AM
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No - but we have had a couple here before (including a fatal one in the Battery).

It's top of mind because I read an article recently about how our risk of avalanches is three times the Canadian average and I couldn't stop laughing at it. No —? Almost all of the country is pretty flat. Three times basically zero chance is still zero chance.
     
     
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