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I have to take issue with Rousseau, here.

Most of Hamilton does not have front yards.

They are either parking lots:



Or have been expropriated for unnecessarily wide roads:
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2014, 2:47 PM
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Actually, those front yards could be a great asset if people did like this instead of parking on them:
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2014, 3:12 PM
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Despite all the negatives it's still superior to City Place.

City Place is of questionable construction, the neighbourhood is sterile beyond belief, and most of those buildings don't even feature proper walls. City Place might sparkle from the window of a Porter jet, but people shouldn't be so easily fooled by that veneer.
Have you been to CityPlace recently? I live near it and walk through it almost every day and I can tell you that it is much more lively and inviting than the commie blocks of St. Jamestown. Almost as if a neighbourhood built from scratch needs time to grow or something.

And if we're talking about questionable construction, many of the buildings in St. Jamestown are in terrible condition and are either falling apart or being renovated so they they don't fall apart. I know because I know people who live there and visit often.

It's not even a discussion between the two. CityPlace is 10000000000x better than St. Jamestown.
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cityplace is far, far better than St. Jamestown. Seriously, have you been to the two neighborhoods? cityplace has restaurant patios, people walking around, parks that are actually well used, retail facing the street instead of parking lots, etc. It works. St. Jamestown doesn't.

seriously, take a look at the photos I took in semptember and tell me that is a worse urban planning disaster than St. Jamestown.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=214169
From the air I think St. Jamestown looks decent, but from the ground those seas of parking and massive parks (about the size of the whole lots of some Hamilton towers) it's a mess. Yonge and Eglinton area is much nicer at street level (unfortunately it has one very ugly office tower that hurts it).
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Y & E Toronto

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikeinto/2308792018/

North Battleford:

http://www.menupix.com/saskatchewan/nc/2245/34/North-Battleford-Ice-Cream-Yogurt-Shops

Prince Albert:

http://movingsaskatchewan.jaysmoving.com/Locations/Prince_Albert.aspx

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Have you been to CityPlace recently? I live near it and walk through it almost every day and I can tell you that it is much more lively and inviting than the commie blocks of St. Jamestown. Almost as if a neighbourhood built from scratch needs time to grow or something.

And if we're talking about questionable construction, many of the buildings in St. Jamestown are in terrible condition and are either falling apart or being renovated so they they don't fall apart. I know because I know people who live there and visit often.

It's not even a discussion between the two. CityPlace is 10000000000x better than St. Jamestown.
Agreed, while CityPlace in theory should suck, it really doesn't. Parties galore in those buildings, a young demographic, the park is fun and slowly but surely some vital and well used retail is coming in year after year. Perhaps because it's so near to some of Toronto's best neighbourhoods but for whatever reason it works despite itself. It's also getting better every year. Once 'The Well', the SouthCore developments, CityPlace schools and community center, Signature Towers and SmartTrack get built and once Queen's Quay's revitalization is completed, we'll see this neighbourhood mature.
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I have to take issue with Rousseau, here.

Most of Hamilton does not have front yards.

They are either parking lots:



Or have been expropriated for unnecessarily wide roads:
Those aren't in the majority, though. At least 95% of the houses in just downtown Hamilton, never mind the mountain, do indeed have front yards, of whatever size. They may not all be large, but they're there.

I know this from having lived there, but go ahead and look at street view on Google Maps for any residential street you like in the city. It's all front yards, everywhere.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2014, 8:31 PM
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Yonge and Eglinton area is much nicer at street level (unfortunately it has one very ugly office tower that hurts it).
This is kind of amusing. You said on another thread that you "discovered" that lots of people hate residential high-rises. That's not true, of course.

But what does seem to be true is that you hate office towers.
     
     
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This is kind of amusing. You said on another thread that you "discovered" that lots of people hate residential high-rises. That's not true, of course.

But what does seem to be true is that you hate office towers.

commercialofficeleasing.com

You think that thing isn't ugly?
     
     
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What is up with the hate in this thread?

I've seen much worse office towers and much worse residential buildings. If you asked what people's fifty most beautiful skyscrapers in the world were, I doubt many people would have a single residential skyscraper on it.
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That's not Toronto, that's Moscow.
Well, wherever it is, it certainly punches above its weight in both opacity and right angles.

For the record, is it Toronto or Moscow? Genuinely not sure now. Those highrises just scream "Ontario" to me, but I guess they don't call them "commie blocks" for nothing.
     
     
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What is up with the hate in this thread?

I've seen much worse office towers and much worse residential buildings. If you asked what people's fifty most beautiful skyscrapers in the world were, I doubt many people would have a single residential skyscraper on it.
I'm sure some residential buildings would make it (Aqua in Chicago for example).

If Beedok prefers concrete slab buildings, then good for him, lets leave him to his opinion and move on!
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2014, 9:26 PM
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You think that thing isn't ugly?
That particular office tower isn't all that outstanding, sure. But I'd much rather have it in my skyline than a taller version of the commie block just to the right of it.

You seem to be pushing this idea that office towers in general are ugly, or at least, always in comparison with residential towers. That's just weird. You sound like a crank.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2014, 9:29 PM
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What is up with the hate in this thread?

I've seen much worse office towers and much worse residential buildings. If you asked what people's fifty most beautiful skyscrapers in the world were, I doubt many people would have a single residential skyscraper on it.
I'm trying to fight hate by saying I (and presumably some other people, I doubt I'm unique) like residential buildings.

I'm not saying that those buildings are the worst building ever, I was just saying I like the rest of Yonge and Eglinton and find they detract from the overall build.

Also if you asked people about the fifty most beautiful skyscrapers you'd probably get 10 famous things that most people know (the Eiffel Tower would probably be included) and that's it. Now if you were to ask about most beautiful skylines I'm guess you'd see Hong Kong on that list which is like 80% residential. People just don't typically know many building names.

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That particular office tower isn't all that outstanding, sure. But I'd much rather have it in my skyline than a taller version of the commie block just to the right of it.

You seem to be pushing this idea that office towers in general are ugly, or at least, always in comparison with residential towers. That's just weird. You sound like a crank.
The residential building beside of it is part of the same complex. The whole complex is ugly.

I also don't think all office towers are ugly, I just think on average residential buildings are more human and welcoming. (I suspect it was affected by my growing up in Hamilton 'commie blocks' so to me they look like home while houses seem strange.)
     
     
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