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Originally Posted by Quixote
but architecturally it's nowhere near as interesting as what was originally presented:
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that's another proj slated for the AD where the original design was better than the final version.
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amp lofts proj was redone due to local community pressure, so what was the reason for the latest proposed devlpt in the same general area being redesigned?!!
colemonkee's description of the mindset of the ppl living around him....in dtla & NOT culver city, samo or brentwood....along with an article in the current issue of the downtown news about how residents in the flower st lofts apt bldg have been fighting a proposed new apt tower planned for a lot next to their bldg, saying it will block views & sunlight....& what happened not long ago to the amp proj in the AD....is a reminder that, as the saying goes, opinions are like [insert unkind word for human anus], everyone has one & they all stink.
maybe that's why I don't seize on the quality of the design of new projs as much as some other ppl do, & certainly not on whether a new proj is tall enough, since there are so many moving parts in what makes dt good or not good....& all the ppl out there with their wide variety of opinions, their millions of different personal preferences.
The history of Pershing sq is a good example of that, since it was considered a trouble spot in dt even decades ago, & its redesign 30 yrs ago for the 1984 olympics was a big dud, & its current design is also considered a big disappointment, although one of the major devlprs in dtla still defends the work of the architect, Ricardo Legorreta. Many ppl also may be skittish about using PS not cuz its design doesn't appeal them as much as due to their unhappiness about running into homeless ppl & the smells & panhandling that go with them.
ultimately, I think changes like the following...across the street from PS....will be at least as important as the matter of purely just design, usage or height....
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Mrs. Fish Is a Rock & Roll Bar Hiding in the Basement of Perch

By Sarah Bennett
Nov 21, 2014
As above, so below. Mrs. Fish – a new downtown L.A. hangout from the same team that runs rooftop restaurant and bar Perch – is opening Saturday the newly remodeled basement of the same Pershing Square-adjacent building, with a vibe and food program that can potentially further change the way people eat, drink and party in the new downtown.
Instead of walking into the historic building's lobby as you would to catch the elevator to French-bistro-inspired Perch, entering the futuristic Mrs. Fish requires you to go through two nondescript doors further down the block and then down a tunnel-like concrete staircase, before entering a 6,800-square-foot, multi-tiered interior space anchored by a stage for live music.
Its bricolage interior blends classy nostalgia with hip, rock 'n' roll nightclub (think: a motorcycle in a glass-enclosed case, pre-distressed wrought-iron banisters, a 5,500-gallon suspended fish tank wrapped around the exposed concrete pillars), and its food and drink options show equal imagination.
Less restaurant and more bar/venue, the tables are tucked away in low-slung nooks, and the menu (from chef Greg Bernhardt, formerly of Church & State) needs no utensils to consume.
“We wanted to challenge the chefs to do something different,” said General Manager Joseph Ojeda, who once worked as a chef at places like Social
Mrs. Fish opens to the public Saturday night with a focus on live entertainment.
Mrs. Fish, 448 South Hill Street, Basement Suite, Los Angeles
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and thanks to forumers like kelbeen, etc, for their very helpful photos of ongoing work in dtla. I've wondered how the 8th & grand...or what I call the whole foods....apt bldg is transforming the look of grand ave as seen from the brockman bldg & on the other side along olive st, &...ta-da!....pics showing that are a welcome sight in this thread.