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Old Posted Nov 21, 2014, 3:33 PM
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Kelbeen, the project rising in the foreground of your photo below is the Saris-Regis project - 7 stories. Ava Little Tokyo Phase 2 is visible in the background on the left with the vomit-worthy neon green and blue glass balconies. Seriously, whoever thought that was a "whimsical" color palette shouldn't even be legally allowed to dress themselves.

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Hopefully those pre-recession plans for a Gansevoort West are still being considered. If so, that will be one of the top highlights for DTLA for its 15th year of reemergence!
     
     
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Hopefully those pre-recession plans for a Gansevoort West are still being considered. If so, that will be one of the top highlights for DTLA for its 15th year of reemergence!
The Gansevoort West deal fell apart long time ago. But anyway it'll still be great to see these properties open. Now if only Cherit would do something with their 7th and Olive building.
     
     
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Looks like at least one of the Metropolis cranes is set to get a lot taller today.


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Housing Projects Planned for Arts District, Little Tokyo



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Bolour Associates, the developer of the coming Amp Lofts at Santa Fe Avenue and Seventh Street, is a member of a partnership dubbed Colorado Nour LLC, which is planning 234 live/work units at 527 S. Colyton St., said project representative Dana Sayles. The property, currently a pallet yard with two small structures, would be developed into open-floor apartments with 13,400 square feet of ground-floor retail....

Meanwhile, in Little Tokyo, plans have been filed with the city by Southern California-based developer Etco Homes for an apartment building at 118 Astronaut Ellison S. Onizuka St., alongside the Weller Court retail complex.

The parcel is a surface parking lot and the project would create 66 units on top of ground-floor retail space and an unspecified amount of subterranean parking. It would be Etco Homes’ first foray into Downtown. No timeline or budget has been announced for either project.
     
     
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I actually like the design of that one. I hate 7 stories as whole but at least that one looks good.
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I actually like the design of that one. I hate 7 stories as whole but at least that one looks good.
Yeah, it actually looks like it's designed by someone with a modicum of taste. This is the one for the Arts district, curious how the one in the random Little Tokyo lot will pan out.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2014, 2:47 AM
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Agreed. This actually looks good. Getting a ton of 7 story structures isnt as big of an issue as simply ending up with a ton of hideous buildings like Ava or 1111 Wilshire.
     
     
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Afternoon 11.21.2014

8th and Grand - very soon this side will go up






Some scaffolding up at Macy's Plaza -


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The Central Area Planning Commission has rejected United HERE Local 11's appeals against the Chetrit Group's two hotel projects. The Clark is now scheduled to open in four months, followed by the Embassy Hotel in eight months. As always with the Chetrit Group, the proof will be in the pudding.
Been waiting to turn those blue for a LOOONNNG time.
     
     
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Housing Projects Planned for Arts District, Little Tokyo

The scale is nice and it's a good addition to the neighborhood, but architecturally it's nowhere near as interesting as what was originally presented:





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bummer, seems we went from a potentially great project to just a project i don't dislike. ah, well.

i honestly can't be too upset though. just the fact that we have both metropolis and the wilshire grand actually happening mitigates how i feel about the failures of other, lesser project. metropolis is actually happening! can you believe it? i can't! and they're doing it the right way too. i must be dreaming. pinch me.

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but architecturally it's nowhere near as interesting as what was originally presented:


that's another proj slated for the AD where the original design was better than the final version.

The amp lofts proj was redone due to local community pressure, so what was the reason for the latest proposed devlpt in the same general area being redesigned?!!

colemonkee's description of the mindset of the ppl living around him....in dtla & NOT culver city, samo or brentwood....along with an article in the current issue of the downtown news about how residents in the flower st lofts apt bldg have been fighting a proposed new apt tower planned for a lot next to their bldg, saying it will block views & sunlight....& what happened not long ago to the amp proj in the AD....is a reminder that, as the saying goes, opinions are like [insert unkind word for human anus], everyone has one & they all stink.

maybe that's why I don't seize on the quality of the design of new projs as much as some other ppl do, & certainly not on whether a new proj is tall enough, since there are so many moving parts in what makes dt good or not good....& all the ppl out there with their wide variety of opinions, their millions of different personal preferences.

The history of Pershing sq is a good example of that, since it was considered a trouble spot in dt even decades ago, & its redesign 30 yrs ago for the 1984 olympics was a big dud, & its current design is also considered a big disappointment, although one of the major devlprs in dtla still defends the work of the architect, Ricardo Legorreta. Many ppl also may be skittish about using PS not cuz its design doesn't appeal them as much as due to their unhappiness about running into homeless ppl & the smells & panhandling that go with them.

ultimately, I think changes like the following...across the street from PS....will be at least as important as the matter of purely just design, usage or height....


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Mrs. Fish Is a Rock & Roll Bar Hiding in the Basement of Perch



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As above, so below. Mrs. Fish – a new downtown L.A. hangout from the same team that runs rooftop restaurant and bar Perch – is opening Saturday the newly remodeled basement of the same Pershing Square-adjacent building, with a vibe and food program that can potentially further change the way people eat, drink and party in the new downtown.

Instead of walking into the historic building's lobby as you would to catch the elevator to French-bistro-inspired Perch, entering the futuristic Mrs. Fish requires you to go through two nondescript doors further down the block and then down a tunnel-like concrete staircase, before entering a 6,800-square-foot, multi-tiered interior space anchored by a stage for live music.

Its bricolage interior blends classy nostalgia with hip, rock 'n' roll nightclub (think: a motorcycle in a glass-enclosed case, pre-distressed wrought-iron banisters, a 5,500-gallon suspended fish tank wrapped around the exposed concrete pillars), and its food and drink options show equal imagination.

Less restaurant and more bar/venue, the tables are tucked away in low-slung nooks, and the menu (from chef Greg Bernhardt, formerly of Church & State) needs no utensils to consume.

“We wanted to challenge the chefs to do something different,” said General Manager Joseph Ojeda, who once worked as a chef at places like Social

Mrs. Fish opens to the public Saturday night with a focus on live entertainment.

Mrs. Fish, 448 South Hill Street, Basement Suite, Los Angeles

and thanks to forumers like kelbeen, etc, for their very helpful photos of ongoing work in dtla. I've wondered how the 8th & grand...or what I call the whole foods....apt bldg is transforming the look of grand ave as seen from the brockman bldg & on the other side along olive st, &...ta-da!....pics showing that are a welcome sight in this thread.
     
     
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bummer, seems we went from a potentially great project to just a project i don't dislike. ah, well.

i honestly can't be too upset though. just the fact that we have both metropolis and the wilshire grand actually happening mitigates how i feel about the failures of other, lesser project. metropolis is actually happening! can you believe it? i can't! and they're doing it the right way too. i must be dreaming. pinch me.

you guys are my hangover cure. there's a chance i'm still drunk.
I'd get more excited about Fig Central, which should break ground within 60 days. That project will have a much bigger effect on Downtown than Metropolis. People forget that Metropolis is on top of the freeway, and to get to it you must brave dangerous 9th street 110 exits, or desolate 8th street.

I'm happy its happening, it will be an improvement to our skyline, but in my mind thats about all it will be.
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Metropolis will have a larger effect on downtown in the long run as it connects the Financial District to LA Live. Not to mention the huge radius effect it will have when it comes to the pile of crap that sits between LA Live and Olympic (Salvation Army and friends).
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Metropolis will have a larger effect on downtown in the long run as it connects the Financial District to LA Live. Not to mention the huge radius effect it will have when it comes to the pile of crap that sits between LA Live and Olympic (Salvation Army and friends).
Don't call people who are serving the community a pile of crap. One of the great things about DTLA is that it isn't some sort of Disneyland community where poverty is hidden from view--the problems are on display, which means that people are forced to confront and (hopefully) try to solve them.

Perhaps some day the Salvation Army will decide to move--I hope it owns its land, so it can generate a hefty endowment. But as long as desperate poverty exists, Downtown shouldn't try to hide it by banishing the people trying to help.
     
     
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Don't call people who are serving the community a pile of crap. One of the great things about DTLA is that it isn't some sort of Disneyland community where poverty is hidden from view--the problems are on display, which means that people are forced to confront and (hopefully) try to solve them.

Perhaps some day the Salvation Army will decide to move--I hope it owns its land, so it can generate a hefty endowment. But as long as desperate poverty exists, Downtown shouldn't try to hide it by banishing the people trying to help.
Pretty sure the Salvation Army can fire you for being gay. Can't say too much positive things about an Evangelical anti gay organization. As well as abuse in homeless shelters, fake work programs, and that most of the money you drop in the collection bowl during the holidays goes to Washington.

The Salvation Army is NOT at all what it seems. But it's not related to DTLA development. But it does need to be said.
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^ fwiw, brandon, a study of charitable organizations determined that the salvation army, unlike many other non profits, spends more of its donations on worthwhile work, while the red cross or sierra club, etc, is notorious for allocating alot of its funds for highly paid executives & other front office staffers.

but I thought your comment was actually in regards to the tatty bldgs jumbled together with tatty parking lots sitting between 9th & olympic, west of Fig. Things like that probably are noticed by more ppl working, living or visiting the hood....& is more of a downer to them....than anything involving new bldgs not being taller or architecturally more stunning, or more urbane. That seems even more the case given what I was describing in my previous post. Perhaps even the councilman representing dt is coming to that realization, since I don't know whether his proposed ban on new projs that aren't taller than 7 floors is all that necessary when there must be at least 20 to 30 yrs worth of land throughout dt that still needs to be fixed up or filled in.

another thing: even things like an improved, redesigned pershing sq & gentrified surrounding area will continue to face the dilemma caught on this vid.


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The only way to counterbalance such problems is by having a huge influx of new ppl of some means...who have more than a few dollars in their wallets or purses...who'll be living & working, or playing, in dtla. The absence of such a large population in the hood in the past.....which is the lifeblood of other areas like union sq up north or bryant park on the east coast....has been the Achilles heel of dtla for over 40, 60 to 90 yrs.

that's why when I see new apt or condo projs in dt, my first thought is not just so much whether they're designed well enough, but how many new residents they'll be bringing to dt, & how quickly or slowly those bldgs' apts or condos will be leased or sold.
     
     
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Pretty sure the Salvation Army can fire you for being gay. Can't say too much positive things about an Evangelical anti gay organization. As well as abuse in homeless shelters, fake work programs, and that most of the money you drop in the collection bowl during the holidays goes to Washington.

The Salvation Army is NOT at all what it seems. But it's not related to DTLA development. But it does need to be said.
Don't get me wrong - the Salvation Army isn't my ideal charity, and there are better ones. I think they've recently banned discrimination in the services side of the organization (although I think they continue to discriminate in the church side). They're far from perfect, but they help a lot of people in need out, and that shouldn't be cast away lightly unless we're proposing a replacement that will do the same good work without the problematic aspects.
     
     
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