The Great Canadian Skyline Thread!

[MolsonExport]

Van killing everyone once again.

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Van killing everyone once again.

Yep. Even Québec city. Though, I think we're a good second.

[GreaterMontréal]

P1320343LR.jpg by daniel523, on Flickr

[FrAnKs]

Never seen that angle before.

[GreaterMontréal]

http://johanyjutras.com/cityscape/

[Beedok]

I never realised there was even a thing up that far north for Montreal. Let alone highrises and whatnot.

[Ashok]

^ That would actually be the east end...

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by Beedok

I never realised there was even a thing up that far north for Montreal. Let alone highrises and whatnot.

What you see at the bottom of the picture is A-40 in Repentigny, a city of 85k. You can also see the city of Charlemagne, Celine's hometown. The distance between Repentigny and downtown Montréal is about 35-40km.

[DZH22]

Originally Posted by SkahHigh

Montreal caught up to Boston in terms of skyline size with the current skyscraper boom.

Nope
http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

Also, Boston currently has 18 150m buildings, vs 7 for Montreal. (+Olympic Tower)
Montreal has 2 U/C, vs 1 for Boston, but ours is a 209m, which would be our 3rd tallest but Montreal's first tallest.
Boston is also about to start an even taller one than that, which would give us 4 towers taller than yours (I don't count the "spire" on 1250 René-Lévesque, which by the way the above link gives you credit for) and a 150m+ count of 20 to 9. (+Olympic Tower)

All of the lowrise and midrise density is really a wash.

Boston skyline > Montreal skyline

However, I love both cities and both skylines! I just couldn't let this comment stand unchallenged.

[giallo]

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[kool maudit]

boston's skyline is a lot denser than montreal's. it's sort of like a san francisco type situation. montreal is like a shorter philly.

[SkahHigh]

Originally Posted by DZH22

Nope
http://tudl0867.home.xs4all.nl/skylines.html

Also, Boston currently has 18 150m buildings, vs 7 for Montreal. (+Olympic Tower)
Montreal has 2 U/C, vs 1 for Boston, but ours is a 209m, which would be our 3rd tallest but Montreal's first tallest.
Boston is also about to start an even taller one than that, which would give us 4 towers taller than yours (I don't count the "spire" on 1250 René-Lévesque, which by the way the above link gives you credit for) and a 150m+ count of 20 to 9. (+Olympic Tower)

All of the lowrise and midrise density is really a wash.

Boston skyline > Montreal skyline

However, I love both cities and both skylines! I just couldn't let this comment stand.

Yes, I know Boston has the John Hancock, but here in Canada we don't necessarily measure it by who has the most skyscrapers over 150m but by density. I counted a few months ago the total number of meters for skyscrapers over 100m (which included U/C towers) and Montreal beat Boston by a small margin. This might be due to the fact that there is a constructiom boom in Canada that's a lot bigger than in the U.S...

Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion. I went to Boston a year and a half ago. Nice skyline seen from the harbor, but you can't see John Hancock as it's not part of the "cluster" of the Financial District.

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

P1320343LR.jpg by daniel523, on Flickr

I've never seen that view before. I've come pretty close coming in from the east on a flight (usually comes in over the oil refineries).

Montreal Island: By far the most populated island in Canada. Sixth most populated island of the Americas, and 37th most populated island in the world. Also the largest population of any island on fresh water, anywhere in the world.

[DZH22]

Originally Posted by SkahHigh

Yes, I know Boston has the John Hancock, but here in Canada we don't necessarily measure it by who has the most skyscrapers over 150m but by density. I counted a few months ago the total number of meters for skyscrapers over 100m (which included U/C towers) and Montreal beat Boston by a small margin.

The way Canadian cities develop vs US cities, you guys have a disproportionate amount of 100m buildings compared to here. However, 100 meters on its own does not really impact either skyline at this point. Our low level density is every bit as dense/widespread as yours, but we also have what I refer to as "height density". Basically, we have more taller buildings clustered here than you do. Essentially a Calgary level skyline surrounded by Montreal level neighborhoods. I like to use 150m because it corresponds to 500' here, and is the point where I start to consider a building "tall".

Also, the John Hancock and Prudential Tower would each absolutely dominate the Montreal skyline, particularly the JHT. You have no comparable signature towers.

I don't know how to post from flickr, but if somebody could post either of these pics (not mine btw) in its largest form they show off exactly what I'm talking about with the density, and don't even include our 1st, 2nd, or 8th tallest buildings!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gregdubois/15551643730/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gregdubois/15782581901/

I would say Montreal's skyline is fairly comparable to Boston's, but a small step below, and the gap is only going to widen over the next few years despite your awesome boom.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Ashok

^ That would actually be the east end...

I can understand cities have slight quirks in directions (I think Toronto and Ottawa's "east" would almost line up with Hamilton's "north"), but that's almost due north of the city.

[kool maudit]

just a note: this whole "here in Canada we don't necessarily measure it by who has the most skyscrapers over 150m but by density" thing is not some sort of official policy or anything.

(the real policy is "we measure it in the way that gives us the advantage." in this, i find, we are similar to many places).

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Beedok

I can understand cities have slight quirks in directions (I think Toronto and Ottawa's "east" would almost line up with Hamilton's "north"), but that's almost due north of the city.

Montreal actually has an extreme case of this disorientation.

The South Shore (Rive-Sud) just across from downtown is actually the east shore. But if you referred to it as the east shore absolutely no one would know what you are talking about.

[DZH22]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

just a note: this whole "here in Canada we don't necessarily measure it by who has the most skyscrapers over 150m but by density" thing is not some sort of official policy or anything.

(the real policy is "we measure it in the way that gives us the advantage." in this, i find, we are similar to many places).

Yes, same here. I'd say Boston's advantage is the 150m+, where we decidedly beat otherwise larger skylines such as Philadelphia and Atlanta. Also 115m+, where we have about 10 more than Montreal. (even factoring in the current construction)

Montreal and Vancouver benefit most from 100m+, Calgary 150m+, and Toronto either 200m+, or 100m+ in the case of trying to compare it to otherwise larger skylines like Chicago.

Overall, Canadian cities have a general advantage over the US in 100m+ but mostly get their clocks cleaned in the 150m+ category. (exhibit A: Vancouver)

[Beedok]

Canada builds thicker and shorter skylines. Not quite Latin America style (except maybe in Vancouver) but not quite USA style either. We like a mix of highrise apartments and suburbia.

[Mrs Sauga]

Probably because US skylines are made up of mostly office buildings, while Canadian skylines are made up of mostly residential. (Calgary being the exception).