DENVER | Main Development Thread #6 - Page 90

TakeFive · #**1781** Posted **Nov 10, 2014, 11:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by PLANSIT

FYI, the bottom right corner is slated to be a dual-brand hotel.

You know I wondered if I was up-to-date on all those parcels so I was hoping that someone might come along and fill in any blanks. Is this something that was previously announced that I (apparently) didn't connect the dots to the site?

DownhomeDenver · #**1782** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 1:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

I'm going to say bullshit... though this could be Block 162.

Yeh i think this is BS too.

TakeFive · #**1783** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 2:04 AM**

Coming in at number six is Denver

Looking ahead to next year Denver is 6th among cities for projected apartment construction according to CBRE and reported in the PBJ which lists the Top Ten cities HERE.
As a reminder, Denver is the 21 largest MSA which you can see HERE.

blm3034L!fe · #**1784** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 2:52 AM**

Regarding my comment on what I heard for the 90 Story Development. My source is coming from someone involved with the Hyatt that's currently being developed.

But he wouldn't give me any details, he wasn't able to.

TakeFive · #**1785** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 4:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by blm3034L!fe

Regarding my comment on what I heard for the 90 Story Development. My source is coming from someone involved with the Hyatt that's currently being developed.

But he wouldn't give me any details, he wasn't able to.

That sounds like a credible source to me. While they haven't done that much in Denver they are a large hotel developer. As to specifics we'll just have to wait and see.
They currently have under construction the largest hotel in Austin which is to be a 1012 room JW Marriott. Feels like Block 138 could be a candidate to me.

Thanks to whitelodging.com

DownhomeDenver · #**1786** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 4:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by blm3034L!fe

Regarding my comment on what I heard for the 90 Story Development. My source is coming from someone involved with the Hyatt that's currently being developed.

But he wouldn't give me any details, he wasn't able to.

UHm. Don't you mean Hilton? LOL. Yeh I will believe this when I see it!!

TakeFive · #**1787** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 6:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by DownhomeDenver

UHm. Don't you mean Hilton? LOL. Yeh I will believe this when I see it!!

I appreciate you hadn't yet seen my post as you posted at he same time. TBH I'm certainly in a state of confusion myself. But this is what I've learned:

A) Plansit made reference to a dual-branded hotel at the NWC of 15th and California streets or the lower right on my post of Block 138.
B) Downtown Denver Partnership lists White Lodging as the developer of a hotel on that site.
C) White Lodging is the current developer of the dual-branded Hyatt at 14th and Glenarm Streets which is who blm3034L!fe was referencing.
D) I also had forgotten (or never knew) that White Lodging was the developer of the Embassy Suites.

Therefor be it resolved that we at least have a warm body here. Possibly, White Lodging has contracted for the rest of the site along California Street which would allow them to construct a nice podium above which they would construct a 1000 room hotel. I'm just speculating here of course. It's possible they are teaming up with a Big Time asset manager or who knows on the project? Whether it's actually 90 stories or not, is not a critical issue but the potential project is highly intriguing none-the-less. It would of course be cool if it were to be a Tall Boy. Maybe they'll do a dual-branded Marriott with a JW and AC? Or maybe it's mostly a big fish story and they'll build a 21 story, 310 room hotel as previously planned.

comoneymaker · #**1788** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 7:05 AM**

WTF just happened lol

comoneymaker · #**1789** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 7:10 AM**

More like: Did I say 90? I meant 9....

If you want 90 it wont be the crappy JW Marriot. More like a Holiday Inn trying to cash in on the weed $ that made Denver about 99.5% booked this summer. But with 2 more states making weed legal this election it wont be a good enough long term investment.

DenverInfill · #**1790** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 1:42 PM**

The proposed White Lodging hotel at 15th and California will be 21 stories and similar to the one they are building currently at 14th and Glenarm.

wong21fr · #**1791** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 3:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by blm3034L!fe

Regarding my comment on what I heard for the 90 Story Development. My source is coming from someone involved with the Hyatt that's currently being developed.

But he wouldn't give me any details, he wasn't able to.

Hyatt's already has two flagship hotels DT and White Lodging is currently building the Hyatt House/Hyatt Place dual-brand hotel at 14th & Glenarm. So I don't see Hyatt as any kind of potential play for a new project. Hilton and Starwood standout as two companies that are missing key brands in the downtown market that could be in the market for flagship hotels. Hilton could use a Double Tree or a Hilton (more likely) and Starwood could go a W or Four Points.

If there's anything at all to this rumor, it has to be Block 162 and that one very tantalizing rendering that we briefly saw with the hotel and observation tower. More likely it's just wishful thinking.

FrancoRey · #**1792** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 4:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by blm3034L!fe

I Know someone among us is coveting this information, but I heard a development is coming to downtown Denver soon. To the extent of 90 Stories I'm height! Very big project. Visited with a friend of mine the other day, he wouldn't give specifics. But he also wouldn't blow smoke up my ass or have any reason talk about something like this, if there wasn't some truth behind it.

I'm trying to find any information out there, coming up empty handed though. Either way I'm so excited to see Denver finally end up getting over the 1,000 foot Mark, and see our skyline move onto the next level...

While blm has more fastasies about Denver supertalls than teenage boys with (insert pop starlet name here), maybe he is actually onto something with this rumor.

Wasn't there that 'secret' rendering of a hotel on the 15th/California block that included that big observation tower? Not a true skyscraper, but it was a supertall structure in the 1,100 foot range. Can't find the image right now, but it was quite blocky. I wasn't a huge fan, personally. Looked like a giant airport control tower.

Maybe they revised this design proposal? Though I'd just rather prefer a giant mixed-use tower of hotel, office and condo in the 90-story range blm mentioned.

That too would get my fantasies stoked

TakeFive · #**1793** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by DenverInfill

The proposed White Lodging hotel at 15th and California will be 21 stories and similar to the one they are building currently at 14th and Glenarm.

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Hyatt's already has two flagship hotels DT and White Lodging is currently building the Hyatt House/Hyatt Place dual-brand hotel at 14th & Glenarm. So I don't see Hyatt as any kind of potential play for a new project. Hilton and Starwood standout as two companies that are missing key brands in the downtown market that could be in the market for flagship hotels. Hilton could use a Double Tree or a Hilton (more likely) and Starwood could go a W or Four Points.

If there's anything at all to this rumor, it has to be Block 162 and that one very tantalizing rendering that we briefly saw with the hotel and observation tower. More likely it's just wishful thinking.

What if... the financial backer of White Lodging's 1012 room JW Marriott Hotel in Austin wants to have the same kind of presence in Denver?
That project is scheduled to open February 20th, 2015. They are already booking rooms at an average rate of $400 per night.

wong21fr · #**1794** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 5:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by TakeFive

What if... the financial backer of White Lodging's 1012 room JW Marriott Hotel in Austin wants to have the same kind of presence in Denver?
That project is scheduled to open February 20th, 2015. They are already booking rooms at an average rate of $400 per night.

It's a convention-center hotel, Denver already has one of those in the 1,100 room Hyatt Regency (along with the 1,200 room Sheraton close-by) and I don't think that the city can support another one. Now a smaller 500-600 room hotel is a strong possibility, but that's not going to get you a 90-story building.

DenvertoLA · #**1795** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by DenverInfill

The proposed White Lodging hotel at 15th and California will be 21 stories and similar to the one they are building currently at 14th and Glenarm.

Buzzkill hahaha

TakeFive · #**1796** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

It's a convention-center hotel, Denver already has one of those in the 1,100 room Hyatt Regency (along with the 1,200 room Sheraton close-by) and I don't think that the city can support another one. Now a smaller 500-600 room hotel is a strong possibility, but that's not going to get you a 90-story building.

Put aside the 90 story tale.

A recent analysis of Denver's convention center suggested that another anchor hotel "right there" like across the the street would be a benefit and an advantage.

As for Austin, they're building hotel rooms like Denver is building apartments. In October the financing was secured for construction of a $370 million 1060+ room Fairmont Austin.

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The building will connect directly to the Austin Convention Center by way of an aerial walkway. This is the second Fairmont hotel in Texas, joining the Fairmont Dallas Hotel

Admittedly Austin is hot hot hot right now. That said a second anchor convention hotel in Denver makes a ton of sense and would be an issue for the Sheraton but not for the new anchor hotel.

TakeFive · #**1797** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by DenvertoLA

Buzzkill hahaha

Damn, I hope for once he is wrong.

wong21fr · #**1798** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 6:53 PM**

BTW,

This happened in permit application universe:

Project Title
2014D00456 - 999 17th St - Mixed-Use: Office, Retail & Multi-Unit Dwelling

Site Address
999 17th St

Scottk · #**1799** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 7:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by DenverInfill

The proposed White Lodging hotel at 15th and California will be 21 stories and similar to the one they are building currently at 14th and Glenarm.

I really hope it looks better than the one they are building at 14th and glenarm... I am not a fan of the buildings white lodging has developed in denver recently -- they all look so cheap.

Awesome news about 999 17th street. I love that project

TakeFive · #**1800** Posted **Nov 11, 2014, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

BTW,
This happened in permit application universe:
Project Title
2014D00456 - 999 17th St - Mixed-Use: Office, Retail & Multi-Unit Dwelling
Site Address
999 17th St

Another one of my favs:

Compliments of DenverInfill.com