Calgary International Airport II

[flipstah]

Originally Posted by holhm22

Nice to hear that from you, as a Canadian-born HongKongese. I agree, we do need an express rail line but that is just a pipe dream in Calgary. But the Airport Express in HK is WAY TOO expensive. I only took it once out of the 6 times I visited HK because it costs too much. But then again, I am a "semi-local" so I would know what airport bus to take/where to get off.

The Express train was my only option to get to Central, which was nice because I can catch a quick nap while passing Mongkok. $15CAD wasn't bad.

[hoboman27]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

This was based on the following thread in airliners.net

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6200616/#menu27

It is an unofficial, unsourced document allegedly stating that Hainan is going to launch all of these new routes in 2015.

Could be a leaked document but, again, no official source. The reference to the 787-9 was a typo as the document (mainly in Chinese characters) does say 787-8.

So who knows the official-ness of these documents. I guess like all pending announcements... wait and see!

Hi guys, long time lurker here, found a recent update to this YUL-PEK thing, but apparently Air China?

Not sure what's going on here, the meeting is actually today, but the premier announced it on Monday (good possiblity of a direct flight). Trying to add some pressure on Air Canada and the Chinese civil aviation authorities, or just bad communication between the parties involved.

Hope this doesn't affect our chances.

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/direct-montreal-china-flights-could-be-coming-couillard-1.2073636

[Denscity]

Originally Posted by yyc_engineer

I flew on CX as a kid with a 3 day stopover in HK with my dad. Was one of the best memories of my life. Favourite part was checking in for my flight at the Airport Express Station early on the last day, dropping off luggage and getting our boarding passes then spending the last few hours enjoying the city before taking the train to the airport to board the flight.

Was amazed that this system existed and frankly do not understand why we can't implement similar systems in N.A. (ie. remote check-in downtown Calgary with fixed rail to YYC, or in Vancouver at Waterfront Station in conjunction with the Canada Line to YVR), but that is a discussion for a different day.

Suffice to say CX and HK are both awesome!

You can check in for your flight and print your boarding pass at various remote kiosks in a few Canada Line stations as well as in several hotels. Baggage dropoff however is another story.

[Full Mountain]

Originally Posted by Denscity

You can check in for your flight and print your boarding pass at various remote kiosks in a few Canada Line stations as well as in several hotels. Baggage dropoff however is another story.

Seems that the baggage drop off would be the most difficult as it would likely need to be screened at the drop off point and possibly at the airport again to ensure it wasn't tampered with.

[VIce]

Originally Posted by Full Mountain

Seems that the baggage drop off would be the most difficult as it would likely need to be screened at the drop off point and possibly at the airport again to ensure it wasn't tampered with.

It wouldn't be that crazy if the kiosk at Waterfront (or whatever equivalent) was run by the airline. Does the United counter at Penn Station handle baggage ever?

[MalcolmTucker]

One seat to the airport in a dedicated train would be different, can build a secure side from the get go. It would be an additional benefit to building a one seat to downtown at the same time as high speed rail, though it would increase the amount of luggage sorting capacity needed between the two sides of the airport, and USA bound passengers wouldn't be able to take advantage.

[holhm22]

Originally Posted by flipstah

The Express train was my only option to get to Central, which was nice because I can catch a quick nap while passing Mongkok. $15CAD wasn't bad.

But you know, we Asians are cheap!

[flipstah]

Originally Posted by holhm22

But you know, we Asians are cheap!

Hey! I'm cheap too! But I didn't know the bus stops so I had no choice...

[Cage]

Originally Posted by Full Mountain

Seems that the baggage drop off would be the most difficult as it would likely need to be screened at the drop off point and possibly at the airport again to ensure it wasn't tampered with.

Remote checkin has the following problems:
- No one wants to pay for remote checkin as premium service. No revenue upside to remote checkin.
- Cost side, remote checkin desk are usually higher price per square foot than airport locations. The only exceptions are location where either the airport or another transportation company (e.g. rail) is providing the space for a location specific reason (e.g. airport authority is trying to entice pax to use a far away airport).
- Bag handling and customer checkin are two different unions and the job responsibilities cannot be combined otherwise the unions will grieve that one union is taking away jobs from the other. Cost are either same or higher at remote facility with no mechanism to mitigate the high cost.
- Up until very recently, all checkin services with a bag had to be completed in the terminal building, Transport Canada regulation. So for example the checkin kiosk in the car rental facility at YVR would not a pax checkin if the pax was also trying to check a bag. The pax got a checkin rejection and had to cross the street to checkin at the terminal. This was negated by airlines installing separate bag drop facilities.


Mostly remote checkin is not possible because there is no additional revenue and the cost are considerably higher.

[cyeg66]

An oopsie by one of our recent visitors?
http://avherald.com/h?article=47c8ad7b&opt=0

[holhm22]

Originally Posted by flipstah

Hey! I'm cheap too! But I didn't know the bus stops so I had no choice...

Oh ok haha

[Airboy]

Ok plane spotters, The French president is in Banff on Sunday so his plane should be easy to find.

[PPAR]

Anyone know when he is scheduled to land?

[Airboy]

Harper should be there as well. They are driving to Banff together. The planes might already be in.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by PPAR

Anyone know when he is scheduled to land?

I think he landed around the time you posted this.

Both his plane (French A330) and Harper's (A310) are parked in the SW corner at the Shell.

[VIce]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

I think he landed around the time you posted this.

Both his plane (French A330) and Harper's (A310) are parked in the SW corner at the Shell.

Did Harper and the GG take different aircraft? The facebook spotters page has pictures of an Air Force CL-601

[Bigtime]

I believe so, think Harper arrived on the A310 (in the new livery) and the GG showed up in the CL-601.

[cyeg66]

They both arrived aboard 310's (not Cessna's) yesterday (Saturday) late afternoon, the Frenchie ahead by a little more than an hour. My supervisor was upset that I vectored Canforce1 to follow traffic rather than be made the de facto #1. Open mouth, insert chill pill.

Calgary police just tweeted: "Throughout #yyc today we assisted with traffic control for a delegate — thats now concluded. Thx for your understanding and patience."

Calgarians seem to struggle with motorcades. You don't need to kill yourself to get out of the way... just get out of the way.

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Wow, that snow. Not even a snowflake or a raindrop in YEG... but it looks like Harp and Hollande managed to find
somewhere without snow.