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Old Posted Aug 8, 2014, 10:29 PM
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That's why an Israeli contractor should be hired.

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Apparently Hamas is more efficient ...


A friend visiting from New York recently was joking that because of all the delays & cost-overruns of their new subway tunnels to date, NYC Transit should hire Hamas to build the next subway lines.
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Old Posted Aug 8, 2014, 10:34 PM
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That's why an Israeli contractor should be hired.

Is the promised land Vancouver, or North Van?
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2014, 7:18 PM
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Is the promised land Vancouver, or North Van?
Haha... well, the Red Sea opened the way from wealthy Egypt to the Wilderness... where they roamed for 40 years before getting to the land of milk and honey (the promised land) on the shores of the Great Sea (Mediterranean).

Considering the North Shore has more propensity for hailstones, landslides and biting flies (Mt. Seymour, ick!), you could make an argument for a group escaping the clutches of the ruling elite of the North Shore, wandering the wilderness of the Vancouver peninsula and then settling in fertile farmland of Richmond after defeating the Asianites (Canaanites). Queen Elizabeth Park can double as Mt. Sinai.
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2014, 8:57 PM
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Is the promised land Vancouver, or North Van?
West Vancouver.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2014, 8:09 PM
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I guess we'll find out when the Viaducts are getting removed in a month or two
I was just thinking about this... I am guessing this will be a topic avoided by both parties?
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2014, 9:43 PM
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2014, 11:02 PM
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@TwoNerons ]A thought on the Viaducts[

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A thought on the Viaducts...

If the viaducts were kept in their present form... what would be the chances of creating a tunnel portal where the viaduct traffic goes UNDER Georgia and Stanley park into North Vancouver?

Essentially this would be a downtown bypass where North Vancouver traffic would be funneled through to the East side. Lion's Gate would revert to a two-lane transit + cyclist/ped bridge. The road through Stanley Park could be made narrower, making the park board happy, the congestion on the Lion's gate would be eliminated by a new 4-6 lane crossing, and the traffic going through downtown to go North would bypass the core.

Pie in the Sky?
THAT was the very idea going through my mind last night!!
"Pie in the Sky?" Yes ... BUT ONLY BEACUSE OF COST ... $$$
I have always thought that was a super, but unattainable idea, so never directly posted the suggestion.
Thank you for the backup. Super-forward thinking, if I say so myself

In fact, I was thinking; a tunnel from the Viaducts entrance, surfacing west of Denman, would be ok for now,
But there might need to be downtown acces, like southbound Howe St tunnel exit ramp, 'and a similar entrance tunnel ramp from
Seymour northbound, if you're gong to integrate it at all with CBD out >< in connecting traffic wanting to transit the city core fast.

Conversely, one can exclude it from any central city connections, and have it (temporarily I hope) emerge West of Denman onto
the LGB Causeway, and ultimately, bored deep, pref 6 lanes, going under the Narrows, surfacing in N.Van - Capilano Road?

Thirdly, it could be a direct connection, with bored tunnels starting at the Viaduct entrances, already beginning the slope down
to Stanley Park, deeper, under the inlet, and then rising to emerge at a correct place in North Van.

But the problem is, whatever variant you fall upon, it'd cost jist too damned much: $$$$$ (being a megaproject will do it every time)

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Old Posted Oct 11, 2014, 11:46 PM
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I think we would have a better chance of Vision Vancouver turning down contributions from Developers then any sort of road improvement project.

Sounds like an interesting idea though! Theorhetically they could rough in the capability of running some sort of train system as well.
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Just been following Twitter and some eye-opener political statements about the removal of the viaducts within the past hour at a Van City poli debate:

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@COPEVancouver says removal of viaducts will only help the profit margins of the developers. Disrupt traffic. Will keep them. #vanelxn

@vangreens "who's paying for the removal of the viaducts? Who's gaining from the removal?" @FalseCreekRes #vanelxn #vanpoli

@andreareimer doesn't agree with @VisionVancouver on removal of viaducts. They should stay. Where is the traffic going to go? #vanelxn
So left-wing, Van City COPE, the Van City Greens, and Vision Vancouver councillor Andrea Reimer apparently all agree that the viaducts should remain.

Which begs the continuous lingering question in my mind... who the hell is actually forcing their removal behind the scene politically?

Certainly not the public at large. Nothing has ever passed the smell test in this whole matter IMHO.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2014, 4:24 AM
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2014, 4:26 AM
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2014, 4:30 AM
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And so did NPA councilor George Affleck?

FWIW I don't think they will get removed any time soon.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2014, 5:41 AM
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I don't get why they can't just plan for a time without the viaducts, but keep them while the economics make sense. What's the rush?
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2014, 6:47 AM
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We sure as hell better get the following conditions:

1) A completely renoed Stadium-Chinatown station extended over the road, connected to the base of a north Rogers Arena tower, with walkway direct to the stadium's mid level plaza, fitting around the related to the Dunsmuir-park bike/pedestrian bridge being built.
2) Set the completion dates for the finished seawall, parks, etc.
3) Decent streetscape, masses, heights on both blocks of the former Hogan's Alley / Viaducts over Main. We need urban blocks here, last thing we need are suburban midrises with more sketchy little parks / nooks around there when we have giant parks next door. Buildings that would be great on the Cambie Corridor are inappropriate here.
4) Confirm that the Hastings B-Line will be implemented first.
5) Come up with a plan to beautify the section of the skytrain guideway that dips. Build a tunnel in a building that it goes under, a glass-metal cylinder like I've seen pictures of online, anything to make it a plus, not a minus.
6)Confirm the first leg of the streetcar.

I sent this list to city hall.
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