The Exchange | 115.7m | 31fl, 13fl | 400,000sqft. | Completed

[trofirhen]

So now there seems to be a Howe Street canyon in the works, north of Georgia, anyway.
If they did something imaginative with the rather elegant building immediately opposite, that would be like ..... too cool !!

[officedweller]

...
SwissReal Group's Nadja Gehriger moved back from London with one building in mind: downtown's buzzy new office project, The Exchange, a super-green 32-storey tower that'll incorporate the old stock exchange on Howe Street.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-es...nt-know-about-swissreals-nadja-gehriger/

[spaceprobe]

Originally Posted by Genauso

New version of the same article
http://www.biv.com/article/20140806/BIV0...wer-first-with-triple-paned-curtain-wall
triple-glazed windows, on site water treatment, $200 million budget

This project has been a bit of a sleeper to me and until now, but with 400,000 sq ft I'm starting to wake up to its presence. I'm looking forward to seeing the finishes. For context Telus Garden has about 500,000 sq ft or new space and the city's target is to maintain adding 2 million sq ft per decade.

2 million sq ft per decade seems really low. Didn't downtown add far more than that in the 70s and 80s? i would think the pace should be accelerating, not slowing down.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by spaceprobe

2 million sq ft per decade seems really low. Didn't downtown add far more than that in the 70s and 80s? i would think the pace should be accelerating, not slowing down.

Here is a compilation I made a couple of years ago regarding pre-90s versus post-90s office construction in Vancouver. At the time, it was in the context of a discussion about viewcones:

Originally Posted by Prometheus

The viewcones were adopted in 1989.

Office towers built in the 21 years after adoption of viewcones (1990 to 2011):

Bentall Five (577,976)
Waterfront Centre (365,168)
Terasen Centre (341,470)
Cathedral Place (307,399)
Vancouver Library Square (300,000)
BC Hydro Centre (290,571)
The Shaw Tower (279,000)
Pacific Centre Tower IV (264,177)
PriceWaterhouseCoopers Place (239,440)
Amec Building 222,135)
401 Burrard Street (214,000)
Viva Tower (171,888)
1508 West Broadway (146,486)


Office towers built in the 21 years prior to adoption of viewcones (1968 to 1989):

Park Place (576,840)
Four Bentall Centre (543,454)
Bank of Montreal Tower (476,649)
Toronto Dominion Tower (471,100)
Royal Centre (433,300)
Granville Square (386,601)
Scotia Tower (385,878)
HSBC Building (383,972)
1075 West Georgia (360,000)
Oceanic Plaza (331,128)
Canaccord Tower (284,970)
1177 West Hastings (265,060)
Guinness Tower (256,128)
Harbour Centre (249,707)
One Bentall Centre (248,700)
Commerce Place (227,482)
401 West Georgia (225,250)
1050 West Pender (220,129)
701 West Georgia (215,479)
Manulife Place (213,000)
Canada Place (210,000)
AXA Centre (206,044)
Georgia Place (199,979)
The Grosvenor Building (195,102)
Scotia Trust Centre (193,200)
Crown Life Place (193,088)
Nelson Square (190,000)
Two Bentall Centre (167,828)
Clarica Building (167,087)
1166 Alberni (165,000)
Grant Thornton Place (154,495)
Sun Life Plaza (151,654)
1185 West Georgia (147,088)
1090 West Georgia (144,181)
Pender Place I (142,530)
Pender Place II (142,356)
777 Hornby (138,585)
Vancouver House (138,308)
Broadway Plaza (132,000)
1125 Howe Street (128,912)
Standard Life Building (125,405)
1111 Melville (105,372)
475 West Georgia (103,361)
1550 Alberni (100,159)

[red-paladin]

Correlation does not equal causation, and not on topic.

[Spork]

Originally Posted by officedweller

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-es...nt-know-about-swissreals-nadja-gehriger/

That article states that the building will be completed in 2017, whereas the article on page 1 of this thread states "before 2015" completion. Given its current state, there is no way that it will take another 2+ years. This should still be in 2015, unless they intend to demolish it and rebuild for some sick, twisted, reason, right?

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

Here is a compilation I made a couple of years ago regarding pre-90s versus post-90s office construction in Vancouver. At the time, it was in the context of a discussion about viewcones:

Originally Posted by red-paladin

Correlation does not equal causation, and not on topic.

Red-paladin, that's in important point. It's too easy to fall into the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy.

Just for fun, here are some items from an eventful week in February 1990 that cannot be entirely ruled out for having triggered our office construction slowdown:

February 7 - The Communist Party of the Soviet Union votes to end its monopoly of power, clearing the way for multiparty elections.

February 11 – Nelson Mandela is released from Victor Verster Prison, near Cape Town, South Africa, after 27 years behind bars.

February 13 - German reunification: An agreement is reached for a two-stage plan to reunite Germany.

February 14 – The Pale Blue Dot photograph of Earth is sent back from the Voyager 1 probe after completing its primary mission, from around 3.5 billion miles away.

[golog]

It can be hard to comprehend how much large office space for one company was pre-computers when there were entire floors devoted to typing pools where women would type , or all the filing cabinets that held records. Then came photocopy and facsicimile machines. There was also a switchboard where women would just re-route calls.

Nowadays there are many fewer companies that use so much space, and they tend to be protected antiquated businesses like banking

[trofirhen]

... still, it's a shame that this tower has to be "Tabletop stubby" like so many others. Another 9 floors would give Howe Street that real presence it needs.

[vanciti]

Originally Posted by Spork

That article states that the building will be completed in 2017, whereas the article on page 1 of this thread states "before 2015" completion. Given its current state, there is no way that it will take another 2+ years. This should still be in 2015, unless they intend to demolish it and rebuild for some sick, twisted, reason, right?

The building will be completed in 2017. It would be physically impossible to see the building completed in 2015. They haven't even started the foundations for the new component and are still doing demolition in the Exchange building itself. The project down Pender at Seymour (510 Seymour) won't be completed until 2016 and its significantly smaller and less complicated than the Exchange.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Red-paladin, that's in important point. It's too easy to fall into the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy.

You and Red-paladin are supposed to be smart guys, right?

As was made clear, the above compilation is a re-post from a year ago and has nothing to do with viewcones in the present context. It was re-posted because of its utility in answering spaceprobe's query about the modern rate of office tower construction compared to the 80s and 70s. Moreover, the compilation is purely descriptive; it does not now (nor did it in its original context) purport to make any causal claims as to why there has been a slowdown in office tower construction since the viewcone era.

Indeed, when the list was originally compiled and posted, it was for the purpose of refuting a causal claim. In the original discussion, a few members were claiming that viewcone restrictions were the cause of greater tower density in the downtown core. The list was compiled to show that such a causal claim is inconsistent with the empirical data, vis-à-vis office towers.

Thus, the original purpose of the compilation was to show that such a causal claim was not only an instance of post hoc ergo propter hoc but that a greater rate of office tower construction did not in fact follow the passage of viewcone restrictions at all--i.e., they were wrong both in logic and on the facts.

Do you comprehend now?

[osirisboy]

Sometimes guys like to show us what they've learned from their intro to philosophy courses lol

[Vanville]

Current photo
[IMG]IMG_7808 by vancouverbyte, on Flickr[/IMG]

[trofirhen]

Lift-off!! It's underway now. I wonder how long it will be before the building frame is up and completed; to give an idea of its height and visual impact.

[Locked In]

My photos from today:


IMG_4265 by 604 City, on Flickr


IMG_4266 by 604 City, on Flickr

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Prometheus

You and Red-paladin are supposed to be smart guys, right?

As was made clear, the above compilation is a re-post from a year ago and has nothing to do with viewcones in the present context. It was re-posted because of its utility in answering spaceprobe's query about the modern rate of office tower construction compared to the 80s and 70s. Moreover, the compilation is purely descriptive; it does not now (nor did it in its original context) purport to make any causal claims as to why there has been a slowdown in office tower construction since the viewcone era.

Indeed, when the list was originally compiled and posted, it was for the purpose of refuting a causal claim. In the original discussion, a few members were claiming that viewcone restrictions were the cause of greater tower density in the downtown core. The list was compiled to show that such a causal claim is inconsistent with the empirical data, vis-à-vis office towers.

Thus, the original purpose of the compilation was to show that such a causal claim was not only an instance of post hoc ergo propter hoc but that a greater rate of office tower construction did not in fact follow the passage of viewcone restrictions at all--i.e., they were wrong both in logic and on the facts.

Do you comprehend now?

I was going for a cheap laugh. Sorry about that.

[Jimbo604]

Photo credit: me

[officedweller]

Nice, thanks for the updates!

[mcminsen]

Originally Posted by Locked In

My photos from today:


IMG_4265 by 604 City, on Flickr


IMG_4266 by 604 City, on Flickr

Maybe another 10 feet (?) deeper from Locked In's previous pic. I had to go see the excavation to get it straight in my head what the shape of it was. Both the old Stock Exchange building and the pit are slightly L shaped.

Dec.25 '14, my pic




You can see through the main floor to the arched windows that (will) look out onto the street.

Dec.25 '14, my pic

[Jimbo604]

Do these pics remind anyone else of the Georgia excavation? With a heritage tower being restored right beside an excavation pit?

This first pic in this post is the best remaining similar Pic on The Georgia thread:
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