YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[casper]

Originally Posted by Cage

AC has operated YVR-HNL for decades, but new route is YYZ-HNL nonstop on AC rouge. The YYZ-HNL route won't work because of costs. HNL is much higher cost than comparable Caribbean or Mexican destinations. The market AC rouge is hoping to tap is the people who always wanted to try Hawaii just cause its someplace new. This crowd might get discouraged once the see cost differences at the destination, no amount of discounting the flight portion can compensate for destination costs.

In the end the discontinuance of YYZ-HNL would be a pick up for YVR as connection traffic is 2x the number of pax.

Sorry, I though you were questioning the YVR-HNL route. I agree the Toronto flight is silly.

[Johnny Aussie]

That's the number of weekly frequencies scheduled between YVR and Asia next summer. That's as it stands now based on current schedules.

That is getting close to 20 per day folks.

[Denscity]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

That's the number of weekly frequencies scheduled between YVR and Asia next summer. That's as it stands now based on current schedules.

That is getting close to 20 per day folks.

Wow.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

That's the number of weekly frequencies scheduled between YVR and Asia next summer. That's as it stands now based on current schedules.

That is getting close to 20 per day folks.

Good stuff!!! I think Johnny mentioned that KAL is considering an extension onward to Lima.
Might any other airlines foillow suit; onwards to South America, or is this the only such mention so far?
It would be a really big catch to get an ongoing route to São Paulo.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Denscity

Wow.

Wow is right. And Europe sitting at 66 which just happens to be exactly half the frequencies to Asia. Still not bad being almost 10 flights per day to Europe.

Will have to wait and see what transpires over the next few months.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Good stuff!!! I think Johnny mentioned that KAL is considering an extension onward to Lima.

I was just speculating based on KE wanting to increase flights to YVR and they are also looking at LIM.
So it was just one of those things that make you go

[Valley_Refugee]

When was the last time YVR and LIM were linked? Canadian Pacific in the 70's?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

When was the last time YVR and LIM were linked? Canadian Pacific in the 70's?

That went into the 80s. Last routing was LIM-SCL-EZE.

[Johnny Aussie]

2 daily E75 on Compass.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6189143/

Schedule as follows (Effective 6 January):

YVR-LAX
DL5759 0630 0930 E75
DL5770 1730 2030 E75

LAX-YVR
DL5755 0630 0920 E75
DL5758 1925 2215 E75

The route commences on 20 December with one daily flight through 5 January as previously announced. The second daily commences on 6 January.

As expected the second flight is perfectly timed for SYD connections on both Delta and Virgin Australia and BNE on Virgin Australia. Expect to see a VA codeshare slapped on that very fast.

This also means DL becomes a really significant transborder player again at YVR. 9 daily in winter and next summer 11-13 flights a day to SEA, LAX, SLC, MSP, ATL, DTW and JFK. ATL and DTW scheds were just loaded for next summer, they were showing nil flights last week. Same sched to ATL and DTW as last summer. JFK loaded as daily compared to 6 weekly last summer.

And LAX goes to about 16 daily assuming there are no casualties. Can YVR-LAX sustain all this?? That's craziness! There has to be adjustments made....

[trofirhen]

All of this is testimonial to the increasing importance of Vancouver itself, and subsequently of YVR.
I wonder if that plan for a third runway wil be activated by this? Or is that still a long way off?

[cyeg66]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

All of this is testimonial to the increasing importance of Vancouver itself, and subsequently of YVR.
I wonder if that plan for a third runway wil be activated by this? Or is that still a long way off?

They've go a relatively long way to go before their two current runways are at max capacity. The NIMBYs just don't know it yet. Besides, constructing another parallel on the island will necessitate a monumental cash outlay.

[Infrequent Poster]

Am i missing something? Doesnt YVR already have three runways?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Infrequent Poster

Am i missing something? Doesnt YVR already have three runways?

One is an angular crosswind runway, not used for regular takeoffs and landings.
Also, when they build a new north-south taxiway just east of the main terminal(s) I understand the crosswind runway will be disused.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Gordon]

There is still tons of spare runway capacity i think it's still in excess 05 95% of the movements are landings n the nor Runway

The east west taxiway will be built long before the 3rd runway will.

[Johnny Aussie]

As earlier reported Sunwing will have up to 19 weekly charters this winter to 12 sun destinations. Up 3 weekly from last winter.

In addition, they will have their regular YYZ charter flights over the 2 week Xmas period again. 5 weekly from 19 December - 4 January.

Next summer there will be 5 weekly sun charters (up from 4 last summer). With the expected YYZ flights as well, Sunwing would have 10 weekly flights next summer. New destination next summer is Santa Maria, Cuba. This route operated in summer 2013 but was discontinued for this summer so it appears to be back in Summer 2015.

[excel]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

One is an angular crosswind runway, not used for regular takeoffs and landings.
Also, when they build a new north-south taxiway just east of the main terminal(s) I understand the crosswind runway will be disused.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

This will have zero effect on runway 13/31. The proposed north-south taxiway is far from the runway itself.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by excel

This will have zero effect on runway 13/31. The proposed north-south taxiway is far from the runway itself.

Thanks, I am aware of that. It's just that I read somewhere that when the North-South taxiway is complete, runway 13/31 will be disused completely.
Second-hand information from something I read somewhere. (I couldn't even understand the functional link between the two strips of concrete in the first place, frankly)

[Johnny Aussie]

More good news.

Edelweiss increasing YVR-ZRH to 3 weekly from 2 weekly last summer. Plus the additional flight will be on the larger 333.

Flights will be on Mondays (332), Wednesdays (333) and Fridays (333). Flights operate June to September again.

So Europe goes up to 67 weekly next summer.... So far!

https://www.edelweissair.ch/en/

UNITED UPDATE

Totally unrelated but UA is throwing the 739 on DEN for some of the winter too.

[teriyaki]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

More good news.

Edelweiss increasing YVR-ZRH to 3 weekly from 2 weekly last summer. Plus the additional flight will be on the larger 333.

Flights will be on Mondays (332), Wednesdays (333) and Fridays (333). Flights operate June to September again.

So Europe goes up to 67 weekly next summer.... So far!

https://www.edelweissair.ch/en/

UNITED UPDATE

Totally unrelated but UA is throwing the 739 on DEN for some of the winter too.

Throw in a 787 and I might be interested in taking this airline again.

[Johnny Aussie]

At today's launch of A380 non-stop flights from SYD to DFW, Qantas CEO, Alan Joyce, had this to say about Vancouver.

Joyce also hinted that the airline’s ‘trial’ of Sydney-Vancouver flights slated for January 2015 could continue throughout the year.

“Sales have been extremely good, and we are very confident this will be very successful” he told Australian Business Traveller.

The Vancouver service is part of a shift in Qantas’ approach to schedules which places greater emphasis on bringing on flights during high seasons, when demand is greatest and fares can be priced accordingly.

So perhaps YVR will see the flying Roo more often.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-takes-aim...medium=flipper&utm_campaign=home-flipper