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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 12:43 AM
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Only thing that's pissing me off is that its 10 stories. If you're going to build above the 6 story threshold he should've gone for like 12-14 to match the height of Orpheum or Ace. But Palmer is cheap. He only went 10 stories because he had to. Even Barry Shy envisioned a taller building on Broadway! I hate Palmer. Oi.
It's a Palmer. I actually wish it was shorter.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 2:55 AM
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It's a Palmer. I actually wish it was shorter.
So short that I can't even see it! I present: The Geoff Palmer Memorial Underground Grotto. Designed after the grotto King Ludwig of Bavaria had in his basement. He'll need to add a skybridge, of course.
     
     
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10 Big Ideas From CityLab 2014 Attendees

Ahead of our event next week in Los Angeles, we asked the global mayors and urban experts who will be joining us to share one great idea that's worked in their city.

http://www.citylab.com/politics/2014/09/10-big-ideas-from-citylab-2014-attendees/380728/
     
     
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^^ That place would still look better than the Da Vinci.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 6:37 AM
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10 Big Ideas From CityLab 2014 Attendees

Ahead of our event next week in Los Angeles, we asked the global mayors and urban experts who will be joining us to share one great idea that's worked in their city.

http://www.citylab.com/politics/2014/09/10-big-ideas-from-citylab-2014-attendees/380728/
Already got my ticket. If any of you are going let me know- perhaps we can do a mini SSP meetup.

Also, I have a promo code for $15 off the ticket. PM me if you want it.
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Already got my ticket. If any of you are going let me know- perhaps we can do a mini SSP meetup.
I'm going. Would be willing to say hi over an [overpriced] drink.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 7:39 AM
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I guess this is phase two of Ava? I don't know, but here's a photo update from afternoon 9/26.

     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 3:12 PM
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^ that's actually the sares regis apt proj.

the east facing wall of the 1st phase of the ava bldg looks really quite bad....all the cheap looking stucco & clunky color scheme....so thank goodness it will be concealed by the sares proj, although it too may have its share of stucco-y design quirks.



sares-regis.com/Experience-Data/Little-Tokyo-Apartments


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I mentioned how different ppl's tastes & preferences can be or are.

this proj was discussed here a few months ago, but I don't know if an article about it was ever posted to this thread.

Due to community opposition the design went from this...


theloftcompany.wordpress.com

to this...


bigbadbrokerblog.com

if the original version wasn't perfect, it at least looked more nicely...or appropriately.....urbanist to me than the revamped version. Keep in mind that the activists who forced the devlpr to redo plans for the proj involve ppl living in the arts dist, who presumably aren't identical to nimby suburbanites or the type of ppl who are fairly conventional in their tastes.

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Reworked Project to Bring 320 Apartments to Arts District

Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014
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A large housing project in the Arts District has undergone a major redesign following a community outcry that the development would not fit with the aesthetics of the neighborhood.

Bolour Associates and Crescenta Capital Partners purchased the land at 695. S. Santa Fe Ave. in 2013. In February of this year,they presented designs for the AMP Lofts to the community. The uproar was instantaneous, and in response, the developers spent three months having architects from the Shimoda Design Group rework the project, said Dana Sayles, an AMP Lofts representative. The $130 million development would include 320 live/work apartments and 20,000 square feet of retail space.

“We took a step back and said, ‘These comments are valid,’ and addressed the issues,” Sayles said at a recent meeting organized by members of the Historic Cultural Neighborhood Council.

Sayles noted that a lack of open public space and “imposing” elevator towers were two points of contention.

The new design utilizes a “J” shape and is flanked by a seven-story building at the northern end of the property and another one fronting Seventh Street. The rest of the 311,000-square-foot project is primarily two- and three-story structures along Imperial Street and Santa Fe Avenue.

Project manager Ryan Granito anticipates breaking ground between the end of 2015 and the middle of 2016. He predicts 20 months of construction with the project coming online by mid 2018.


^ Consider situations like that one & add them to the fact that GH palmer's apt bldgs apparently appeal to enough ppl that they've all filled up rather quickly.....by ppl who choose to live in dtla & not in the SF valley or orange county, or in burbs like el segundo or glendale.

it's fine to hash & rehash over & become unhappy about the design of new devlpt in dt in the context of fan forums like this one, but if one combines that with all the other issues that hold back the hood....such as rampant homelessness, street crime, swapmeets, rundown bldgs, office towers that have a tough time attracting enough occupants, businesses like the figaro restaurant on broadway that don't survive beyond a short time....then dt will end up always being a very disappointing place....or the worst of all worlds.

another thing that ppl take far too lightly is the ability of stores to survive in just about any section of dtla, in almost any location that's thrown at them.

Small retailers have a tough enough time making a go of it even when in the best spot, where there are tons of potential shoppers in close distance, esp dedicated female ones with plenty of credit cards in their purse. But to expect stores to stay open in the still lightly trafficed parts of dt, where few ppl are around.....& women in particular either prefer staying indoors before heading out to the burbs at the end of the day or aren't even that plentiful in a certain portion of dt to begin with....is expecting too much of both the owners of such spaces & their potential tenants.
     
     
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Agree that small retailers may not currently be able to survive, and it wouldn't make sense to always build retail in an unregulated market. But part of the point of planning and zoning is to overcome the problem of individual incentives not aligning with regional needs, and you get huge anticommons problems when land ownership is really divided preventing coordinated behavior for the benefit of all absent government intervention. Or, to put it another way, all these retail spaces may not work out now, but it's good for the region to have a strong stock of streetfront commercial space in DTLA, even if it'll take another decade or so before it would actually pay off from a purely private perspective.
     
     
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A large housing project in the Arts District has undergone a major redesign following a community outcry that the development would not fit with the aesthetics of the neighborhood.
If you note the comment up above from the article you posted, the issue doesn't seem to be that residents didn't like the first design so much as they didn't think it fit into 'the aesthetics of the neighborhood'. After all, no matter how many people like the Eastern Columbia bldg, few would want to see it built in the middle of a Los Feliz single family neighborhood. Acting as a bridge between the developer and the neighborhood is one of the tasks that a good design review board can accomplish.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 27, 2014, 6:30 PM
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Agree that small retailers may not currently be able to survive, and it wouldn't make sense to always build retail in an unregulated market. But part of the point of planning and zoning is to overcome the problem of individual incentives not aligning with regional needs, and you get huge anticommons problems when land ownership is really divided preventing coordinated behavior for the benefit of all absent government intervention. Or, to put it another way, all these retail spaces may not work out now, but it's good for the region to have a strong stock of streetfront commercial space in DTLA, even if it'll take another decade or so before it would actually pay off from a purely private perspective.
And let me add, rents for many of these retail spaces coming online in reviving neighborhoods tend to be below market. That allows the retailer to survive during the time when foot traffic is still fairly low.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2014, 4:40 AM
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Tomorrow Eric garcetti will announce the elimination of the flat rooftop ordinance
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2014, 5:11 AM
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Tomorrow Eric garcetti will announce the elimination of the flat rooftop ordinance
Awesome! I saw Brigham Yen's post on it as well. Hopefully they will also announce some pilot projects!

And love the street wall that 8th and Grand brings. Lines up very nicely with the existing historic buildings, and looks much better than I thought it would.
     
     
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Broad Museum is so ugly. What a disappointment, especially when the renderings were so beautiful.
     
     
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I almost can't believe how cheap they went on the Broad. Or how poorly they forecasted the budget. Whatever it was, it almost deserves an apology on the part of Broad.
     
     
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Tomorrow Eric garcetti will announce the elimination of the flat rooftop ordinance
NO WAY !!!! I cant believe it. So does this mean helipads are no longer needed? Hopefully developers and architects become more daring with the ordinance lifted. LAs skyline will get crazy amazing.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2014, 9:56 AM
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About the Broad museum, major disappointment. It's literally a 3-story version of the American Cement Building with a similar "veil". Seele Inc. failed to deliver a decent facade and also caused delays, etc. I hope the money sued over them could be used to hire another company to redo the facade, and I hope this current exterior will be temporary (the company used heavier material which is unsafe for earthquakes). Since it happened already, I hope it'll repeat WDCH's history when they had to replace their exterior materials. The facade, on the side facing WDCH, is suppose to "cave" in a bit but obviously that part is missing.

Broad, LACMA, and Academy Motion museums have all been disappointing. Wishing the best of lucks to the Petersen Automotive, which is closing for renovations this October.
     
     
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