Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 4

[ToysNoiz]

Looks like a combination of the Willis tower and the John Hancock center.

I like it.

[Reachforthesky]

This is AWESOME! Grateful for whoever took the time to do this. Great shots!

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/86561...-photos-show-Salt-Lake-then-and-now.html

Sad to see the Newhouse Building torn down to become a huge parking lot! It really looked like it had quite the footprint in downtown, having it, changed the entire look of 4th S. and Main.


http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/1405654/1405654.jpg



Also look at how much BETTER 1st S. and Main looked! Wow!

http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/1405656/1405656.jpg



Here's one of my personal favorites! Someone please BRING THIS BACK permanently! It would add so much to downtown!
http://img.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/1405701/1405701.jpg

[ToysNoiz]

Great collection. I'd love for the Newhouse Hotel to be rebuilt as was.

[ajiuO]

I'm not sure if anybody has mentioned this but they've started to construct the islands in the middle of 300 W.

[jubguy3]

Wait where?

Also does anyone know who to talk to about the sidewalk issue outside triad I almost got hit by a bus the other day bc of it

[SLCdude]

Originally Posted by jubguy3

Wait where?

Also does anyone know who to talk to about the sidewalk issue outside triad I almost got hit by a bus the other day bc of it

SLC Streets Division is my best guess http://www.slcgov.com/streets

[jubguy3]

Originally Posted by SLCdude

SLC Streets Division is my best guess http://www.slcgov.com/streets

thanks! i reported three seperate issues i had. hopefully the city takes action.

[CofIKid]

A few things I noticed around town...

The "new" Arrow Press Square is being landscaped today. They created a nice little plaza towards the back.

The Laporte crane on State Street was up for the first time in weeks today.

Boyer began landscaping on the 200 East part of the access road that will go from State Street to 200 east once the parking garage and 151 is complete.

[Makid]

CCH News:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/86561...on-hotel-in-downtown-Salt-Lake-City.html

'Five or six' possible sites for convention hotel in downtown Salt Lake City

SALT LAKE CITY — Salt Lake County officials are considering five or six possible sites for construction of a planned headquarters hotel for the Salt Palace Convention Center.

Salt Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams, meeting Monday with the editorial board of media companies under Deseret Management Corp.'s umbrella, said one option would be to build the hotel on a portion of the convention center grounds, "which would be attractive because you're not taking existing taxable property off the market."

The site will ultimately be selected by the county in concert with the hotel developer, he said. But that will not occur until state and local officials pick the developer later this fall.

In August, the county released a "request for proposal" seeking a development and design team to build, own and operate the 850- to 1,200-room hotel and meeting space. Proposals are due Oct. 24.

"Then we'll have a short list and start negotiations with the No. 1 developer. We'll start working with that developer to evaluate sites. We didn't feel we had the expertise within government to do the proper analysis for a $300 million project," McAdams said.

Although each of the sites is in close vicinity of the Salt Palace, each presents different challenges and opportunities, he said.

"We want people who are coming to be able to shop. That's going to help us get that multiplier effect," he said. However, McAdams said a site closer to retail development would likely be more expensive than other locations.

Last week, the county conducted an informational meeting to answer the questions of potential developers before they submit their proposals.

The RFP does not cite a preference for any potential site around the Salt Palace. However, the project needs to be as close to the convention center as possible, sensitive to nearby cultural and historical assets and have minimal impact on the Salt Palace’s solar panel array, the largest statewide.

The 2014 Utah Legislature passed legislation that provides an incentive for a public/private partnership to build the hotel, convention meeting space and public infrastructure. HB356 allows for sales tax rebates up to $75 million over 20 years to the hotel developer if the hotel meets certain performance benchmarks. The privately constructed and owned hotel will include public meeting space paid for by the hotelier in exchange for the tax rebates.

With regards to the bolded section, I have heard about this and until the site mentioned above is public, I cannot provide more information other than to say that the location is not the NW corner of 2nd South and West Temple (plaza area).

[SLC Projects]

I keep seeing these numbers. "850 to 1,200-room hotel"

I really hope that the hotel will be more then just 850 rooms. Don't get me wrong, that's still a ton of rooms. ( Grand America Hotel has around 800-ish rooms ) but I think anything less then 1000 rooms for this mega hotel will be a bit of a let down. I would love for it to reach it's peak of 1,200 rooms.
All in all, I feel like we are getting very close of finally learning the final site of this development with renderings and a developer.

[Makid]

Projects,

Don't worry about the low end. I keep looking at the high end "850 to 1,200-room hotel"

I would expect that we will be getting a CCH closer to the 1,200 room level than the 850. Overtime, the top and bottom values have changed. The bottom used to be stated as 800 rooms and the top at 1,000. The top has changed from 1,000 to 1,100 and now to 1,200 rooms while the bottom has only gone from 800 to 850.

With the plans in the future to further expand the convention center exhibit space, I think a developer would see the value in building more rooms now.

I do have some information that would show an increased reason for a larger CCH. The information is not public but the information is known to those helping with RFP's and answering developer questions. I am hopeful that it will be released soon.

[SLC Projects]

Checking out the list on wikipedia.org on largest Hotels in the world. If Salt Lake could land a 1,200 room hotel that would place us in a five-way tie at the 135th biggest. Here are some examples of other Hotels that have 1,200 rooms...

Hotels that have 1,200 rooms
Hilton Americas http://arquitectonica.com/blog/portfolio...mericas-houston-convention-center-hotel/
Park Inn Pribaltiskaya Hotel http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_4th/Dec06_ParkInnWaterpark.html
Lotte Hotel Seoul http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2014/08/320_101729.html
Makkah Hajar Tower http://www.tcf-me.com/client_portal/move...npick-makkah-hospitality-rooms-and-views

While I don't see Salt Lake getting anything close to the "Makkah Hajar Towers" I would like to see something more along the lines of the "Lotte Hotel Seoul". The others seem a bit too wide for my liking.

[bflatflat9]

Originally Posted by Makid

Projects,

Don't worry about the low end. I keep looking at the high end "850 to 1,200-room hotel"

I would expect that we will be getting a CCH closer to the 1,200 room level than the 850. Overtime, the top and bottom values have changed. The bottom used to be stated as 800 rooms and the top at 1,000. The top has changed from 1,000 to 1,100 and now to 1,200 rooms while the bottom has only gone from 800 to 850.

With the plans in the future to further expand the convention center exhibit space, I think a developer would see the value in building more rooms now.

I do have some information that would show an increased reason for a larger CCH. The information is not public but the information is known to those helping with RFP's and answering developer questions. I am hopeful that it will be released soon.

Alright pin-up girl....just tease us. (wink-wink) Is that all you're gonna show us? And if we get something wider than tall, Well...I'll...um...maybe rent a room in the Shilo, and drink alone.

[Future Mayor]

The possibly on existing Salt Palace land comment if very intriguing. If it's not the NW corner of W Temple and 200 S, then I would assume that it would have to be in place of the most recent addition that took the SP to 300 W. The corner to the north of that isn't owned by the Salt Palace. I'm so intrigued.

I too expect that we'll know by the end of the year, and for those four 1,200 room hotels, The Hilton is a little wide for what it sounds like the county wants, but as far as designs go I like it the best. I'm conflicted on the 850-1,200 room and which I would prefer. Yes it would be nice to get the 1,200 because that is a really large hotel, particularly for us, but I also look at it this way. If the developer only builds 850-900, I could see one of the other developers deciding to go ahead and build another large hotel near the convention center, possibly another 600-800 rooms. So part of me wants the big one, part of me wants to large ones.

[Scraperdude801]

Is the SE corner of S. Temple and 300 W owned by the convention center?

[TheWire]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

If the developer only builds 850-900, I could see one of the other developers deciding to go ahead and build another large hotel near the convention center, possibly another 600-800 rooms. So part of me wants the big one, part of me wants to large ones.

I would think that this reason would only further support the idea of a larger hotel. Interesting point, especially if there is significant competition from all the big players in hotel development, as has been expected up to this point. To be a fly on the wall seeing these RFPs come in...

[ctobsl]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

Checking out the list on wikipedia.org on largest Hotels in the world. If Salt Lake could land a 1,200 room hotel that would place us in a five-way tie at the 135th biggest. Here are some examples of other Hotels that have 1,200 rooms...

Hotels that have 1,200 rooms
Hilton Americas http://arquitectonica.com/blog/portfolio...mericas-houston-convention-center-hotel/
Park Inn Pribaltiskaya Hotel http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_4th/Dec06_ParkInnWaterpark.html
Lotte Hotel Seoul http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2014/08/320_101729.html
Makkah Hajar Tower http://www.tcf-me.com/client_portal/move...npick-makkah-hospitality-rooms-and-views

While I don't see Salt Lake getting anything close to the "Makkah Hajar Towers" I would like to see something more along the lines of the "Lotte Hotel Seoul". The others seem a bit too wide for my liking.

Well I hope we do not get anything along the lines of those hotels...!

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Scraperdude801

Is the SE corner of S. Temple and 300 W owned by the convention center?

No. That's what I was referring to in my post.

[bflatflat9]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

No. That's what I was referring to in my post.

The plot is so Thick.

[StevenF]

Old&New I have a project for you. I was looking at google maps and looked at the parking lot that takes up a full city block just off main at the Courthouse TRAX station and thought of an idea.

What "if" a fortune 100 company came in and purchased the full block and made a campus out of it? I would love to see an idea tossed into that area of what it might look like with a few office buildings, employee only plaza/park in the middle (or anywhere you might think is best), retail, and anything else you might think a fortune 100 company would do with a full city block campus.